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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

This looks immediately fun and promising, I'm in.

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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Disco Anne posted:

Anyway, I bet iggy's scum

##vote iggy

No, but I have been given a terrible power.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Woe betide ye lurkers, ye will feel my wrath and despair.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

I am not a serial killer.

Are you town, though?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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fool of sound posted:

The long foretold lurkervig…

There are some unfortunate limitations ("balance" pshhhhhhhhh) but it's fine.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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I will just have to content myself with the lamentations of those I strike in the thread.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

I have a way to earn fish that isn't simply following along with the options presented in the day open post that I will absolutely be making use of, and I have to assume most everybody else does too.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

It's probably going to make me more difficult to read in some ways, but so help me I'm prepared to sacrifice in order to whip y'all into shape.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...


It does happen sometimes but I absolutely feel this anyway and you'd better believe he's getting my wrath later if he lurks.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

I can already tell the amount of real content I'm likely to get at least for now isn't going to be nearly what I'd like for maximum vengeance power; most unfortunate, but there's nothing for it and I'll be damned if I let a natural advantage slip away over this.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

Weird question but is anyone into vore? In game of course. 😂

##vote Fos in support of Cubes good bit. GO GO

:chloe:

Are you a fish posing as a seal trying to get somebody to eat you??

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Here I was going to go into number/seal/seal number facts, but... yeah that's gonna require some explaining.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

............

Is that a for real scum slip on D1???

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

I can say with confidence that you must be a seal to be seal-aligned and ofc I am a seal.

Do any seals want to be eaten?

That, I do not know— but I wonder.

:dafuq:

Why would a seal want to be eaten? Who but a predator would eat the seal? What makes you think there are specifically things that eat seals in this game to begin with?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Zoya posted:

##vote yuming

AROOO!!!!!! AROOOOO!!!!!!!! AROOOO????!!??!???

Yeah like this is insanely early but agreed. ##vote yuming

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Aren't seal predators already?

Yeah hence my earlier question about if she was a fish imposter or something; then she starts talking about if any seals wanted to be eaten and that baffled me even more.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Zoya posted:

Aroo...

:wiggle: Aroo!

Yep, that part is totally on-point, I'm just flabbergasted at D1 barely starting and this falling in my lap.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

I don’t know I’m trying to figure out what the purpose of my role is because it doesn’t sound very useful unless someone wants to be eaten.

hth

That's really bizarre. wolo game, so the purpose could be a lot of things, but I think at a minimum I wanna know what happens to people you 'eat'.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

They are removed from the game.

I honestly don’t know why I would want to do this that’s why I’m posting about it v:shobon:v

.........................

Are we still on planet Earth right now? Oh, no, the real question is if I'm on Candid Camera.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

:takes a deep dive to the ocean floor trying to find cameras and the edge of the studio:

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Well okay, that's more Truman Show than Candid Camera but still.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

Yes it makes it sound like I am a vig who can only remove town so the only reason my role would exist is if there is a player who wants to be eaten/removed from the game.

:psyboom:

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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I don't have any interest in being eaten either. I like fish, but I don't eat them.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

Yes it makes it sound like I am a vig who can only remove town so the only reason my role would exist is if there is a player who wants to be eaten/removed from the game.

What makes you think the vig only works on town players?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Is it flavor only or is there some mechanical language about what happens if you eat a scum or 3P player that's different from what happens if you eat a seal?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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yuming posted:

It only works on seals.

Okay. In that case, you're a tough to play cop variation; an inversion of the cool and mostly legendary brutal cop that kills anyone who is scum-aligned while leaving town-aligned players alone. I would have held that to my chest and been at peace with either being extra cleanup duty on scummy reads or the cool guy who would if needed salute the thread as he went down to prove his weird cop claim and admission of guilt in however many other murders it took to get there.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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fool of sound posted:

Are you sure you're not a polar bear SK or something yuming

This is possible but the idea I proposed above was in my head already as what I'd get out of it if I had it. I'm not a fan of yuming not seeing it as an inverted brutal cop because I know she's been around long enough to see some form of the way more OP original version, but as of yet that by itself isn't a smoking gun that she's lying.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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mycelia posted:

Or this, I guess. Definitely a weird d1 claim either way.

It's very weird. This is a wologar game, though, and even that aside she's now got a shelf life that will rapidly expire if her target choices are bad enough.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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##unvote on the condition that yuming keeps herself accountable by not obscuring her ideas day-to-day. You don't have to declare a target beforehand, but any bodies you dump overnight oughta make some kind of sense or else.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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SporkChan posted:

You think yuming is a cop, who will kill every town person she scans, and only fail on 3P or scum, and you want her to use that ability?

The opportunity cost is so high for that. It's not worth it. Especially since if she's wrong town is down a player immediately, and if she's right we still have to vote the person out.

Yuming is a threat, though probably not scum.

But Iggy being okay with that is and advising she keep using the ability is scummy.

##vote Iggy

If she doesn't trust herself with the power then she can also stay home and that will be perfectly reasonable, just like it'd be perfectly reasonable for a standard vig to stay home because they didn't believe in their aim being any good. This is still, however, a game that is about social deduction, and as such I strongly believe that there is no game without reads, and because of that any talk about throwing away reads or acting on them comes off generally scummy. Being capable of killing people in a more limited fashion myself, and recalling that this is from the guy who ran Time to Get Vig, and understanding that I've got a nice glass house of my own wrt vig correctness, I'm not gonna throw "zomg, unaccountable vig" stones at her.

Even more than that, though, who the hell are you and what have you done with the guy who blew up wologar after he persuaded town to yeet scum because the shiny button still had to be pressed?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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The more I think about it the more that post stinks. A standard vig isn't that much less dangerous than yuming's claim. It has the downside of not immediately killing scum, but that doesn't do anything about the other half of the coin where the town vig in question is just plain grievously wrong on their reads or doesn't care about them and is thus just as capable of irresponsibly loving over town as yuming is right now.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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SporkChan posted:

I was the guy who still thought Wologar had a chance to be scum when I blew him up!

But again, if yuming finds scum that means that nothing happens!

No? She would come to the thread and say "Hey I targeted that person overnight and couldn't eat them" and then they get voted out easily. For all you or I know she might even have a string of catches in that way and then the game is over easy peasy.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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SporkChan posted:

I was the guy who still thought Wologar had a chance to be scum when I blew him up!

But again, if yuming finds scum that means that nothing happens!

Also yeah, that's just it, if I had yuming's power I'd be shooting in pretty much exactly the same way, people who had a chance to be scum! If I got it wrong, that sucks, but if I'm right I have a scum catch right in hand just like a normal cop would.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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It's absolutely not a nothingburger of a downside, but that's where being accountable for her reads comes into it and also the shelf life part. If she shoots bad enough, she gets justifiably booted. If she shoots well, town gets to boot scum easier. If she shoots reasonable but wrong targets, that means that town gets to advance its own guesswork and hopefully boot scum anyway!

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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SporkChan posted:

A normal cop doesn't kill everyone they're wrong about.

A normal vig does, though, and they pay the price for shooting poorly even when they don't have a weird exception to who their vigs work on that make them able to play ersatz cop.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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There's also another factor to this, which is that if I were scum I'd want to remove her for a lot of the same reasons I'd want to remove a town vig in general. It'd be enhanced by the fact that if there's a night with only one kill and it's not her, there's always the chance that she comes into the thread with a smoking gun and then I or somebody else would go down in flames. The most it could be delayed would be one day and that's only enough time for her flip to vindicate her, and then whoever she claimed to target is a lame duck for the night who's probably not going to get anything off successfully before dying the next day.

This game has been open for less than half a day. We have time to re-evaluate her if she lives long enough or shoots poorly enough to merit it.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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If this were Zoya I could be tempted to believe she claimed this just to see if she could get away with it. I can't really see that with yuming, though, and even if she's out to surprise me this game, that shelf life isn't going away anytime soon unless everybody forgets about it. Which, sure, they could do that, but you won't and I won't and not even scum know for sure we won't live long enough to push people into booting her if she fucks it up enough.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Hal Incandenza posted:

I am glad Iggy is making good use of our new bbcode buttons

I'm actually making use of something that's predated those for a while, keyboard codes. Ctrl-B bolds, Ctrl-I italicizes, and there's more but I'd have to look at the BBcode link again to find them all.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

I'm not going to evolve into a phone Mafia player, I'm just not gonna, you can take my keyboard from me when I'm dead.

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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

New...bbcode...buttons? Why do these seem not new at all to me?

They were an experimental feature you could opt to turn on in the user control panel for a while. Now they're on for everyone by default.

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