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Feb 6, 2025 21:19
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Aren't seal predators already?
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Feb 7, 2025 01:20
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Tsietisin posted:Why do I never get the fun posting restrictions If you think Zoya has an actual posting restriction you've already fallen for her trap.
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Feb 7, 2025 01:33
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yuming posted:They are removed from the game. What, like, permanently?
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Feb 7, 2025 01:34
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I have no idea what the utility of that would be. Temporarily removing someone from the game, yes, that's a thing. For the record I have no interest in being eaten. I do like fish, though.
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Feb 7, 2025 01:45
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Two (well, I guess one and a half) repeatable vigs sounds like... a lot, honestly.
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Feb 7, 2025 13:02
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It's the "repeatable" part that I feel stands out, though. We're looking at three potential kills every night, the game is going to be over in like 3 days at that rate.
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Feb 7, 2025 13:24
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:You have 3 scum reads, one of them dies by rising lava and flips town after another scrambled hard at deadline to avoid the lava. Are you going to sit there and tell me that that means nothing at all and the person who didn't react to the lava is still equally suspicious to the player who panicked? Eh, self-preservation is not alignment indicative. Townies with important roles are just as motivated to avoid the snipe as anyone else.
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Feb 7, 2025 20:24
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mollyohreally posted:hm. fos is actually playing kinda towny. ##unvote for now Pinged by molly's posts.
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Feb 7, 2025 20:25
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Addendum to the reply to Iggy: That also seems to assume your top scum reads are at the bottom of the posting pile, which seems a bit presumptuous. What if the bottom few posters are all townreads? Why would I be happy about the plan in that situation, regardless of whether I'm among them or not?
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Feb 7, 2025 20:27
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So the general problem I think is that I think this plan just doesn't have positive overall results for town. Like scum would love this plan, it basically amounts to "all we have to do is not be at the bottom of the pile every day and Iggy will give us a free extra kill every night". Like, are there positive effects in terms of making people post more content? Yeah maybe but I'm not convinced that makes it worth it, or for that matter that any new content is so easily analyzed that its mere presence makes us more likely to find scum.shwinnebego posted:I suggest you take the bottom three posters and then pick the one who has posted the least substance, what I am trying to say is u should kill maugrim I have no particular opinions on Maugrim but at least this is a plan that involves making some reads on content.
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Feb 7, 2025 21:16
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Scum are eventually going to run out of people that have lower posts than their usual and will, in fact, have to stand out to avoid falling prey to it. How sure are you that this is before MYLO? Ignatius M. Meen posted:The only way this actually doesn't change scum behavior is if you think there are people who are naturally active scum in this game, which you're gonna need to substantiate if you think it's likely. The current plan relies on them being naturally inactive. Don't you think that needs substantiating too? For the record I don't know which is more likely to be case, but I'm not happy betting the game on it being one over the other.
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Feb 7, 2025 21:27
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I don't know, I've seen shwinn and Zoya be pretty active scum. (At least as long as Zoya can keep herself from catching stray probes...) Probably molly and Spork too. I'm not up to date on people's metas. Point is, it's a rough assumption to make and I don't think it outweighs the math.
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Feb 7, 2025 21:38
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:As for this, sure enough that I'll bet the farm on it. If you think that's not a full-blooded town Meen position you can flip me and you'll have the proof right in front of you that it is. I'm not scumreading you for the record, I just don't think it's a good plan.
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Feb 7, 2025 21:39
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Zoya needs to start using her words at some point. Also, wait, it's a dayvig? Not that I guess it changes the math, I just assumed it was a night action.
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Feb 7, 2025 22:45
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I'm not interested in voting Iggy or mycelia. Would vote molly though.
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Feb 8, 2025 12:19
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mollyohreally posted:hm. fos is actually playing kinda towny. ##unvote for now This post for me, because the original vote on FoS in the first place was this: mollyohreally posted:
There's no need to justify why you're dropping a jokevote, so it pings me that molly felt she should.
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Feb 8, 2025 14:57
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SporkChan posted:My big problem with the Iggy/yuming plan is that it involves targeting people for a kill only based on post counts, not reads. That doesn't feel like Iggy, who combines night action with reads. Like I've said before I think this is not a great plan for exactly the reason you give here, but I also think it's a reasonably town-Iggy plan to come up with. I just think he's overvaluing the value of making scum post more because like, the incentives are the same for everyone and I don't think it markedly improves the quality of any reads. tldr townlean on Iggy but still not happy with the plan.
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Feb 8, 2025 16:08
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SporkChan posted:I think people posting about why they are changing their vote is a good thing though. Normally, yes, I agree with you. If I thought molly's original vote was a genuine vote I would be fine with it, but the original vote looks like a jokevote and I don't see why someone would even bother justifying moving their vote elsewhere in that situation. To spell out the implication, that's something scum do who are excessively anxious about justifying their vote patterns.
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Feb 8, 2025 16:19
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SporkChan posted:How is that different from town who are 'excessively anxious about justifying their vote patterns'? I suppose at that point it's a meta call for whether you think the person in question is more likely to feel that way as town or scum. I think it's more likely for scum to do that than town.
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Feb 8, 2025 16:28
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Don't like Spork's post. Went from "I'm not going to vote Iggy, I'll give him space to prove himself" to "I still want Iggy to have space to prove himself tomorrow but I'm going to vote him anyway" and it feels tortured. Makes me more interested in voting molly actually, if she flips scum I think there's something to look at there.
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Feb 8, 2025 18:07
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Provoking more content out of people is the secret sauce that appeals to me most from this and it doesn't have to stop me from shooting other ways. yuming wasn't going to bother to use her shot at all unless somebody wanted to die specifically to her flavor of vig and while that doesn't make a lot of sense to me for a town player, it makes even less sense to me why she'd claim it the way she did as any other alignment, and this way I can put her aside for a bit. Posting can be hard, but we should all strive to do more in that department when it's possible because as I will scream with my dying breath, you can't read the posts somebody never made. I don't see why scum!yuming would claim that way either. It just seems like it would draw unwanted attention. That's the kind of bozo thing I'd expect from Zoya, not yuming.
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Feb 8, 2025 18:12
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Read the last page and you'll see my top read right now is molly. But it's D1, don't expect miracles or deep reasoning yet.
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Feb 8, 2025 18:20
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mollyohreally posted:I wasn’t joking Can you explain why you voted fos then?
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Feb 8, 2025 20:13
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As much as I would like to get the hammer fish I don't want to risk a burrito and I'm not sufficiently convinced. ##vote molly
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Feb 8, 2025 20:28
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Zero interest in voting mycelia. Guys, don't burrito this now.
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Feb 8, 2025 20:44
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Cloacamazing! posted:mycelia, SEAL-aligned Empowererer has left the colony Night 1! I can confirm I was informed of this fact when the game started, though it was not explained why. I am also now extremely suspicious of one player in particular.
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Feb 9, 2025 20:21
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I also think I got someone else's result last night. Anyone want to claim responsibility for that?
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Feb 9, 2025 20:22
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think Myc's flip means that either:  You're gonna have to guide me through the logic on that one, chief.
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Feb 9, 2025 20:33
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Hal Incandenza posted:Same, I think Interesting. I took no action last night, so whatever you got wasn't from me. Was there a triple swaparoo?
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Feb 9, 2025 20:34
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DreamingofRoses posted:So that was three town elims in the first 24 hours. Can we cool it on the vigs? Also this, and yuming needs to claim night actions asap. Iggy needs to holster. And answer some questions.
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Feb 9, 2025 20:38
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Hal Incandenza posted:It’s possible I’m misinterpreting what happened I didn't expect to receive any result at all, but what I received looks like someone's result. It's possible I was befuddled.
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Feb 9, 2025 20:47
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yuming posted:I ate mycelia Why?
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Feb 9, 2025 20:48
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shwinnebego posted:I thought you couldn’t eat town The claim was the only way around, only eats town.
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Feb 9, 2025 21:14
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Feb 9, 2025 21:14
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I have been hoist by my own petard by assuming I would be able to use multiple day actions so long as I have multiple fish. Unfortunately, I can only use one day action a day because wologar has sold out to Big Moderation and thus I have to hit somebody twice to kill them. I'm fine holstering my not-really-a-dayvig while this is sorted out and you can ask away. I'll just come out with it: Why was mycelia killed? My thought was that scum knew it would be difficult to vote him out, because I would have revealed that I knew he was town. So how would they know that? Well, you see what I'm getting at here? That said I'm less now suspicious since yuming claimed the kill. Because there was also a second kill, so unless scum literally has a free bonus vig I don't think that's why. I'm still wary of yuming though. What do you think of the fact that she didn't follow your plan?
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Feb 9, 2025 23:25
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Anyway, speaking of fish, I have an offer today. I can give someone a boon! I can only give out one today though, and you won't receive it until end of day, but I promise it's real nice to have. I realize I gotta prove that, but it's pretty expensive for me to hand out, so I need some fish to do it. Two fish, to be precise. If someone is willing to shake flippers on that I'll gladly give it to you. No rush though, we've got until end of day.
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Feb 9, 2025 23:31
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DreamingofRoses posted:Did you steal my fish last night? No, I took no action last night. I can't steal fish. Other than the graverob action everyone has access to.
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Feb 9, 2025 23:35
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:You do realize you're essentially asking me to prove I didn't paste (I'm assuming) your message to me in scumchat, right? How the gently caress do you expect me to do that again in good faith, while understanding that if I'm town I can't really prove a negative and if I'm scum I'm gonna lie my rear end off? Not expecting you to prove it. But I'm happy with this answer nonetheless. Like I said, after yuming claimed it my suspicion was lessened anyway. Thanks.
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