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wologar
Feb 11, 2014

I don't actually think that happened, though.

:doit:

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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

yuming posted:

I’m also a bit confused. We likely still have 3 scum, correct?

Cube pushing schwein makes them unlikely scum imo
Tho Cube could’ve done that for that reason. DA feels like a slam dunk tho with the opinion changes on Keane and Cube content.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


But if this is ELO (electric light orchestra) or yesterday was ELO (electric light orchestra) then there have to be like 3 scum left, no?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Sandwolf posted:

But if this is ELO (electric light orchestra) or yesterday was ELO (electric light orchestra) then there have to be like 3 scum left, no?
I believe so. I always just x.25 the number of players and this is 3.5 so Cube was .5 imo ??

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Disco -> wolo -> shark/yuming

Most likely scum imo

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Sandwolf posted:

Disco -> wolo -> shark/yuming

Most likely scum imo
What about wins?

He is low content so hard to read but him going after me out the game is + scum fmpov.

Sand being so reasonable here is + town.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Oops, I'm even at my laptop now so I have no excuse!

**mafia edit: wins going after me out the gate

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Honestly I have had wins in a blind spot all game, I have no reason to town read him, I just don’t want to unnecessarily push there

Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.

yuming posted:

Tho Cube could’ve done that for that reason. DA feels like a slam dunk tho with the opinion changes on Keane and Cube content.

We can treat this as a learning experience for you

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Well he's so obscured from a content POV so I also have a blind spot, but if he voted you out the gate here (on the assumption you're town) I bet it would make you suspicious too.

Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.
Don't be this obvious in your scum push

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Disco Anne posted:

We can treat this as a learning experience for you
Wait am I scum or town?

This post implies you think I'm town but you are voting me and it is kinda a big deal at this point in the game, ya know?

Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.

yuming posted:

Wait am I scum or town?

This post implies you think I'm town but you are voting me and it is kinda a big deal at this point in the game, ya know?

You are scum with a dead obvious push as scum

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
But WHY am I scum tho.

Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.

yuming posted:

Why am I scum?

##vote Disco Anne feels good to be right :sparkles:

It's this. Way too obvious. At least hedge a bit like your buddy shark

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

kinda suspicious of the fact that yuming has been agreeing with me so much all game tbh

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
I have been calling DA scum since D1 and I just want my Voodoo moment and hit of dopamine for voting him out :sun:

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

sharkmafia posted:

kinda suspicious of the fact that yuming has been agreeing with me so much all game tbh
Usually I take that to mean we're both town.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


yuming posted:

I have been calling DA scum since D1 and I just want my Voodoo moment and hit of dopamine for voting him out :sun:

I’m down, with the rider that if DA is scum you’re likely town

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

anyway disco is still the obvious elim, yes

Disco Anne posted:

I never think cube's reasoning makes much sense and therefore he is always scum and therefore I can't read him

this reads like a bad dodge of having to give an opinion on cube in hindsight

Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.
Oh look shark immediately summoned on mention

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

Disco Anne posted:

Oh look shark immediately summoned on mention

pal i show up when i show up

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

sharkmafia posted:

pal i show up when i show up

are u a wizard

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

yuming posted:

But WHY am I scum tho.

This is one of your scum tells.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


wologar posted:

are u a wizard, sharry

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Sandwolf posted:

I’m down, with the rider that if DA is scum you’re likely town
If he's not scum I have nfi

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

wins32767 posted:

This is one of your scum tells.
obv not cos I do it as town, like I am here :sun:

See, Cube *shakes fist at observerchat*

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

so we figure that cube that recruited on the no kill night, yeah? all the subsequent kills have been like the most obvious target so if a protective role does exist they're doing a bad job

that likely means that scum didnt know cube was on their side before that point. that's generally how bnr aux works

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

actually come to think of it its definitely that because if the scum knew who cube was his role wouldn't have a point

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

sharkmafia posted:

so we figure that cube that recruited on the no kill night, yeah? all the subsequent kills have been like the most obvious target so if a protective role does exist they're doing a bad job

that likely means that scum didnt know cube was on their side before that point. that's generally how bnr aux works
Yes and then his claim was an attempt at looking like a protective role but he didn’t have time to sell it.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
idk if players would know they were blocked but at this point there isn’t a town Rogue.

If mystique were scum she’d have grabbed the vig. Would scum have had a chance to shoot it to their benefit?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Yes, assuming 3 scum. If they shot two town last night we’d be deadlocked, yea?

So if there’s mystique she has to be town. Otherwise it’s hidden roles and honestly probably just VT.

If we have town Wolverine obv he’s alive and shouldn’t claim. If scum have Wolverine we may be SOL.

sharkmafia
Aug 20, 2018

you mean psylocke's vig? i don't see why not

that said, given there are a lot of hidden roles there's a limit to out speculation there. i mentioned that because it means that scum were unaware of cube before n2 and then they were after

so anyone who suddenly changed their opinion of cube in either direction looks more suspicious. i have not looked into this yet

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

sharkmafia posted:

you mean psylocke's vig? i don't see why not

that said, given there are a lot of hidden roles there's a limit to out speculation there. i mentioned that because it means that scum were unaware of cube before n2 and then they were after

so anyone who suddenly changed their opinion of cube in either direction looks more suspicious. i have not looked into this yet
Yes. I’m just trying to imagine plausible game states.

If scum had a Wolverine, they’d be bussing him I think? So that could be schwein.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wologar posted:

I'm unsure. Disco is my top option (followed by Schweinsteiger), but it's not rock solid.

wologar posted:

Mod spoilers!?? :wotwot:

##vote schwein


why vote me over Disco here Wolo?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



CubicalSucrose posted:

Same.

Well, same first point at least.

Is there a world where Yuming is scum? It would mean Shwein is probably town.

14 players, so probably 3 scum? I guess town had an invincible, so 4 is possible maybe. 3 + aux?

this is an interesting post in retrospect, at least as it regards reading tea leaves as to the number of scum remaining (the aux scum suggesting 3 + aux)

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wins32767 posted:

So sand and I tipped the voting over to cube, so unless you think Disco Anne is a scum power role with a better power, that makes both of us look better objectively I'd think.

wologar posted:

:goofy:

Why would you say this?

this dusk post of wins sticks out to me too, weird, protesting too much without actual heat on him at the time.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

schwein11 posted:

why vote me over Disco here Wolo?

Because:

wologar posted:

This could be read as "if the vote had gone the other way, gg!". Hence, mod spoilers.

More seriously, Disco was already catching heat so I wanted to press a potential scumbud.

I could see Sand. I don't think yuming is scum.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

wologar posted:

Mod spoilers!?? :wotwot:

##vote schwein
So the argument is we had to kill Cube over DA and FC spoiled that in his comment?

I would take it more as "town knows it's close let's see what happens!" in general vs. a specific comment on the gamestate.

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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
I'm not motivated to hurry to post this game since we have to run out the clock but I will plan to do my summary on why DA is scum later today~

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