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schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



I'm going to sign up after not having played mafia on this website for a long time.

I choose to reveal Shadow Cat please.

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schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Freaking Crumbum posted:

okay!! we hit 9 players & i'd like to get everyone's feeling on game start

we can wait for more folks, or i can start this up as soon as this monday

please feel free to discuss

I’m fine either way. Generally feel that the more the merrier, so am ok if we wait on sign ups a little - but don’t feel strongly about it.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Voodoofly posted:

If we are staging a coup why are we keeping a constitution at all?

For the veneer of legitimacy

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



So I haven’t played SA mafia since before discord was really a thing (scum chat in shared google doc days). What’s the general use of discord v forum posting for the game proper? Is discord just for scum/mason chat or does some of the day chatter take place there?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Opopanax posted:

Discord does all the stuff we used to use googledocs for

Got it. Makes sense. Was hoping this was the case.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



shwinnebego posted:

##vote schwein11

your username is too similar to mine, you must be destroyed

not really; mine contains the german word for pig and my lucky number, which sounds coincidentally similar to 9-11, whereas yours is a bike that wishes it were an RV but doesn't realize it lacks the horsepower or the living space

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



what i'm saying is let's all be friends, fellow townspeople/heroes/whatever we're calling it in this game

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



CubicalSucrose posted:

How do you do, fellow scum? I mean town! Fellow town! Let me try this again.


soru posted:

hi friends if you're on my team feel free to AIM me, my handle is soru

two "jokey" D1 intentional scum slips. oh no when the suspicion is turned on you later you will point to this and say "no a real scum wouldn't do that" or some such nonsense. ##vote soru because yours came second and you are scum trying to ride the jokey coattails of CubicalSucrose (against whom I retain suspicion)

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wins32767 posted:

This is a scummy try hard post.

nah, i'm rusty and always hated the early D1 jokey phase.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



soru posted:

dang I was foiled with my first post by some german 9/11 enthusiast

i did say it was coincidental

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wins32767 posted:

And this is awkward. I’m sorry you drew scum in this game friend, I’ve missed playing with you.
##vote schwein11

yeah i realize as i am shitposting this afternoon that i've missed this too. the vote however was uncalled-for.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sharkmafia posted:

Agreed get schwein no.11

##vote schwein11

lazy

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



shwinnebego posted:

##vote sharkmafia

yep, we gottem

yeah, i agree, fellow schw-poster. ##vote sharkmafia

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



schwein11 posted:

yeah, i agree, fellow schw-poster. ##vote sharkmafia

or agree as much as one can with the dearth of information so far available. still need a fair chunk of the players to come out of the woodwork. how dare they not post as soon as the game started.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Voodoofly posted:

also there is a significant increase of my use of sorry now that I'm up here


Sore-y, you mean

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



This is some suspicious bullshit.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009




was this done in error? the vote counts the way you did it. i could see accidentally deleting the last bracket on /quote and not realizing it, i could also see doing it intentionally as a way to make it seem like an accident, but it's only the second vote on Cube at the time...

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



i also think at least one of the folks in on the turbo attempt on yuming last night is scum, not sure which. (for reference, Disco Anne does initial vote on yuming, then Opop says let's turbo, then Opop votes, followed by Cube, Hal, and Schwinn in rapid succession)

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



schwein11 posted:

i also think at least one of the folks in on the turbo attempt on yuming last night is scum, not sure which. (for reference, Disco Anne does initial vote on yuming, then Opop says let's turbo, then Opop votes, followed by Cube, Hal, and Schwinn in rapid succession)

yeah so, ##vote Hal

CubicalSucrose posted:

I've always been at war with loving turbos.

##vote yuming

Hal Incandenza posted:

I’ve always been loving turbos ##vote yuming

similar wording to Cube's vote post, half hour later. lazy, and sneaking a vote into middle of a silly turbo attempt. hasn't posted since then, and has left vote on yuming (only one).

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



it's less that scum win the game with a well-timed d1 turbo, but instead that it allows a scum to sneak in a low-effort vote without any independent rationalization on d1 and hide with the crowd.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



yuming posted:

Ultimately I go back and forth on schwein11 can’t tell if legit scummy or just trying to engage.

it's the latter.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Disco Anne posted:

my issue with voting schwein out today is that I haven't played with them before, but the utter lack of joke phase from that direction is throwing me pretty hard

I’ve always been poo poo at joke phase, fwiw

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



This post:

Hal Incandenza posted:

hmmmm this might be yumings scum game

was Hal's first post since the below post (over 24 hours later):

Hal Incandenza posted:

Quick yuming, you’ve got 3 votes to convince me you are town

Feeling good about my vote on Hal. he's been low effort so far, lurking, and popping up to join a turbo attempt (as I discussed in a prior post when I voted for him). view him as scum trying to do the minimum without drawing attention to himself.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sharkmafia posted:

This is entirely too many sentences to justify 'I'm voting hal because he hasn't posted much'

Nah, my earlier post with my vote is why I’m voting for him. This latter post is expressing that my feeling about him has not changed due to his subsequent activity.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sharkmafia posted:

So this is your vote justification

How do you feel about cube and shwinn who basically did an identical thing re the yuming meme turbo

you missed the one specifically about Hal:

schwein11 posted:

yeah so, ##vote Hal

CubicalSucrose posted:

I've always been at war with loving turbos.

##vote yuming

Hal Incandenza posted:

I’ve always been loving turbos ##vote yuming


similar wording to Cube's vote post, half hour later. lazy, and sneaking a vote into middle of a silly turbo attempt. hasn't posted since then, and has left vote on yuming (only one).

I feel stronger about Hal than the others referenced.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Freaking Crumbum posted:

Votecount for Day 1

⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢 shwinnebego (3): Voodoofly, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢 yuming (3): Disco Anne, Opopanax, CubicalSucrose, Hal Incandenza, shwinnebego, Opopanax, CubicalSucrose, Disco Anne, shwinnebego, Disco Anne, soru
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢 Hal Incandenza (2): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CCKeane, schwein11
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢 schwein11 (2): shwinnebego, sharkmafia, wins32767, shwinnebego, soru, soru
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 wologar (1): soru, soru, CubicalSucrose, Opopanax, CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 CubicalSucrose (1): Disco Anne, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, wologar, Disco Anne
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 Voodoofly (1): shwinnebego, shwinnebego, shwinnebego
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Sandwolf (0): Opopanax, wologar, Opopanax, soru, wologar, soru
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ soru (0): wins32767, schwein11, wins32767, schwein11
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ sharkmafia (0): shwinnebego, schwein11, wologar, shwinnebego, wologar, schwein11
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ CCKeane (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Disco Anne (0): CubicalSucrose, yuming, CubicalSucrose, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Opopanax (0): shwinnebego, shwinnebego


Not voting: Sandwolf

The current deadline is February 05th, 2025 at 2 p.m. PST -- that's in about 2 hours, 11 minutes.

GM VOICE: The player with the most votes at deadline is eliminated. In case of a tie, the player with the Longest Held Last Vote is eliminated.

Sandwolf you going to grace us with a vote at all today?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sharkmafia posted:

Well at any rate I'll be around and will vote to avoid a no elim. Doesn't look like there's a likely alternative candidate even if I had a strong objection which I don't

based on the wording of the OP i don't think there can be a no-elim - player with "most votes" is eliminated at deadline. that does not necessarily mean majority.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Freaking Crumbum posted:

GM VOICE: The player with the most votes at deadline is eliminated. In case of a tie, the player with the Longest Held Last Vote is eliminated.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wologar posted:

Scumpost.

##vote Hal

yeah he's certainly not changing my mind about him.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sharkmafia posted:

Ah yeah it's bnr dusk rules that's fine then

random aside - i have seen "bnr" referenced a few times - what is that?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



ah ok thanks.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



shwinnebego posted:

Don’t vote me vote voodoo folks

your case against voodoo is that he is jocular here in a way that you have previously seen him act as scum, correct? is there something else?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



no waterpark here but instead a nice sheet of ice over everything that appeared overnight, and the obstinate school for my kids didn't even have a delay (kids are pissed).

indoor waterparks can be neat though

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Freaking Crumbum posted:


oh no, Opopanax was killed during Night 1!! they were:



TOWN-ALIGNED Psylocke

TOWN POWER = Night Vigilante - When the first Night Phase begins, you gain a single-use Vigilante Kill. During the Night Phase, select another player and they will be targeted with a death effect. This power is then lost.


This confused me at first, because I went back to the list of revealed mutants on the first page, and Psylocke was not one of the revealed mutants. I was thinking that we would only be playing with those that had been revealed prior to role-assignment, but i was clearly mistaken. Also, the two kills can, I think, only be explained by another of the unrevealed mutants being in play with a power not revealed.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



wologar posted:

Or, you know, by the presence of a scum team.

Scum killed Opop, Opop killed soru (???)

true, i didn't think of that

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



sticking with my guns from D1 - plus didn't like his bandwagon-y rationale-less vote on Schwinn. ##vote Hal

also, Sandwolf didn't vote on D1 - Sandwolf what are your thoughts on the remaining players?

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



massclaiming wouldn't work - too many xmen are not revealed (look at second post of thread for the list)

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



CubicalSucrose posted:

Are Schwein and Soru not both returning players after long absences?

yeah but if you think i'm scum, make your case and vote for me. i'm having fun and will play more games after this.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



CubicalSucrose posted:

Massclaim might actually work. Like yeah the numbers mean it's not a guarantee, but it seems really tough to mod a game where any number of players between (x and y) can play, and it's a semi-open, AND a massclaim doesn't break any of those players counts.

Bigger than "it probably won't work" (which I think I disagree with) is "it probably won't be as fun."

no. there are 11 players alive. there are 8 unrevealed mutants left, and 13 revealed mutants left, each with both a town and scum option. too much room for scum to fakeclaim, and would only give information to scum to help them make night kill targets.

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schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Hal Incandenza posted:

I mean, vote me, whatever, but since I didn't realize it was plurality and thought we were in danger of not killing anyone, I don't know what your issue with voting the only person who seemed like they would get the (unneeded) majority would be

although it is possible this is true, the language about plurality was in the OP and in every vote-update post by horse, including three times on the very page you voted for schwinn (5 and 6 posts before , and 1 post after, yours). additionally, right after your vote, sharkmafia posted:

sharkmafia posted:

Well at any rate I'll be around and will vote to avoid a no elim. Doesn't look like there's a likely alternative candidate even if I had a strong objection which I don't

to which i responded:

schwein11 posted:

based on the wording of the OP i don't think there can be a no-elim - player with "most votes" is eliminated at deadline. that does not necessarily mean majority.

and:

schwein11 posted:


Freaking Crumbum posted:

GM VOICE: The player with the most votes at deadline is eliminated. In case of a tie, the player with the Longest Held Last Vote is eliminated.



in short, i don't believe you

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