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Bathurst/ATCC was Group A, not GT, in the 80s/90s. which i kind of liked but it did suffer, like a lot of group a series, from turning into a Ford Sierra one-make series, and then a Sierra vs two Skylines series at the end
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mid-80s group A Bathurst was like the best poo poo ever though. i watched the '85 race and it was so cool seeing the camera on Conrod and hearing the different engine notes as like, V-12 Jag, V8 Holden, turbocharged Nissan, Turbo-4 Volvo, and I-6 BMW all passing with completely different engine tones. go back a few years and you even have RX-7s in there the V8 formula was fine until like 2003 when it basically turned into too much of a spec series due to Project Blueprint (and the later formula changes kind of kept it that way) also in fairness the first few years of the post-2003 years were really, really good Kemono-san fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jan 31, 2025 |
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I was only really interested in the category from 1999-2006 or so because friends at school where super into it. In the pre covid years I headed out to the 12 hour each year and it was an excellent mix of cars and engine notes but that is unlikely to return because I cannot see the likes of bentley, mclaren and nissan really pursuing the sports car racing thing going forwards
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the last several Bathursts have been some of the most boring races i've ever seen there, outside of maybe the later Group A ones when it was basically just a bunch of Sierras. i don't get how you run a 1000km race with one safety car and end with 20 cars on the lead lap and like no mechanical failures. it isn't remotely an endurance race anymore
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Dr. Garbanzo posted:In the pre covid years I headed out to the 12 hour each year and it was an excellent mix of cars and engine notes but that is unlikely to return because I cannot see the likes of bentley, mclaren and nissan really pursuing the sports car racing thing going forwards You can still hear a stonking V8 GT3 car, it’s just the Mustang not the Bentley. And there is still good diversity of GT3s, just not enough of them in Australia at the moment. One part people not wanting to bring them just for the Bathurst 12h, one part not enough being down there full-time for the local series. It sounds like there’s a few added models for this year’s Bathurst 12, including a Ferrari or two. But yeah, real thin. Also remember the Super Touring interregnum between Group A and the V8s coming back? Because that was definitely on Speedvision back in the day.
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the v8s coming back was actually a modified Group A ruleset in 1993 iirc. there was a series split in 1997-1998 with Supertouring, and technically the "real" Bathurst 1000 was Supertouring in those years, which was kind of cool, but the v8 1000s were definitely more popular. i think both the Supertouring 1000s from 97/98 and the V8 "1000 Classics" from those years have official record status.
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I did not realize it was a CART/IRL situation, I thought the rules were just sequential. of course Super Touring burst its bubble eventually.
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harperdc posted:You can still hear a stonking V8 GT3 car, it’s just the Mustang not the Bentley. the bentley had a special tone as did the amg's but they where superior to the marc cars which back then where a mix of mustang and mazda 3's with a V8 in front. They did used to have a category for porsche supercup cars which weren't as fast as the GT3 machines but still miles quicker than the GT4 cars. Funniest invitational entry always went to the motec guys who'd turn up with a daytona or something else odd that would sit in the garage for most of the race. I do remember that and it is also the reason the 1000 isn't on the long weekend in October anymore cause the person who had the rights still retains them.
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the 12h was always kind of an amateur race wasn't it? is there a cheaper formula they could switch to for more participants
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Initially yes but that only lasted a few years before they added the GT3's in from memory. When I first headed out in 2015 or 16 the invitational field was strong and there where a decent number of GT3 cars on the grid as well. That was before it became a round of the international GT challenge which more or less killed the invitational crew and post covid became a great expense to send cars to. Like manthey racing was coming until they won and then their desire to come out seemed to die off completely.
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a few years ago they introduced the bathurst 6h for the production cars that used to run in the 12 hour pre gt3.
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For the first post, HBO and WEC partnered up last year so you can watch WEC races live on Max now, at least in the US
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Dudley posted:For UK viewers, Eurosport goes away in Feb and it'll all be on Discovery. I have Eurosport thru a ISP package (with some caveats, like getting the broadcast feed with ads and just Italian audio) and it’s staying after the shutdown. You won’t be able to get Eurosport directly but previous cable/isp packages are likely to stay.
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I've done every one of these crashes in iracing.
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Bathurst 12 Hours is live https://www.youtube.com/live/4eH_CYDE1to
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Miss Racing Thread 2025: Are you crying?
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Part 2 for the second half of the Bathurst 12 Hour is now here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBju2tnbDCw
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the v8s coming back was actually a modified Group A ruleset in 1993 iirc. Yes, add more wing + more hp, try and get some parity and they called it a day. A bunch of Group A cars became V8Supercars quote:there was a series split in 1997-1998 with Supertouring, and technically the "real" Bathurst 1000 was Supertouring in those years, which was kind of cool, but the v8 1000s were definitely more popular. All about TV rights vs Ch7 (rights holder to the then Bathurst 1000) and Ch 10 trying to grab the main series. I was at The Cutting for both races (friends live on the circuit), the Supertourers were fun but they had to make up the field with production cars IIRC - was a pretty good and chill event to be at without the ferals on top of the Mountain. The Mondeos made the best noise. The best race of either weekend was the 3 hour production car event. A full field with a Viper up front making wonderous noises TBH Bathurst is a garbage race with anything that doesnt feature a 40+ car field - it's just too big a track for the current 24 car fields and there really does need to be more variety of cars - half the fun of watching Bathurst is the mobile chicanes of slower vehicles.
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Ended up being a bit of a boring race after the crashes with a small field but I am glad that Rossi made the podium cause he adds a bit of glam. It also means that someone will make decals which means I’ll be able to build a model of it once they release the kit.
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MustardFacial posted:Is Oreca the only LMP2 manufacturer? Or is this just a coincidence? If you want a laugh, check out any of the 2023 or 2024 when Sean Creech Motorsport tried running a Ligier LMP2 car in IMSA. It sucked even worse than their am driver (the one guy must have caused at least four cautions during one Rolex 24 by spinning). And it had a thin blue line paintjob. Never wanted to see a car crash more badly. LMDh cars (the hybrid prototypes from Acura/Alpine/BMW/Cadillac/Lamborghini/Porsche and soon Ford and Hyundai also have to use the chassis (or spine) from four approved makers (Oreca, Multimatic, Dallara, and I forgot). Edit: I forgot to add, they found that Ligier in a barn in Hungary, no less. drgitlin fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Feb 3, 2025 |
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Dr. Garbanzo posted:I was only really interested in the category from 1999-2006 or so because friends at school where super into it. Seems you are aware of things like GT3 and GT4 so I don’t need to explain how many OEMs actually are racing. McLaren definitely have GT3 and GT4 cars, they just happen to be a bit crap. Nissan can’t afford to race poo poo, they’re about to have to be folded into Honda. No Bentleys though. Pretty sure they just left those things in Australia as they were too large to fly back anywhere and old and outdated by that point anyway, which is why they raced at Bathurst long after anywhere else? drgitlin fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Feb 3, 2025 |
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drgitlin posted:If you want a laugh, check out any of the 2023 or 2024 when Sean Creech Motorsport tried running a Ligier LMP2 car in IMSA. It sucked even worse than their am driver (the one guy must have caused at least four cautions during one Rolex 24 by spinning). And it had a thin blue line paintjob. Never wanted to see a car crash more badly. pretty sure that was last year, an absolute "well, let's see how that works for them, Cotton" moment. and that was before we saw the livery.
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drgitlin posted:Seems you are aware of things like GT3 and GT4 so I don’t need to explain how many OEMs actually are racing. Covid actually killed the Bentley program right after they won Bathurst from memory. Part of the reason they were racing them here after the rest of the world is at the time the homologation date for GT3 cars was in march or April and Bathurst being in February they had to use the previous years cars for the event. They changed it in the meantime so that it happens in January so the most current spec can participate. In addition to that they used to have a class for Porsche carrera cup cars which had a decent number which pushed up the numbers along with a handful of GT4 cars and a decently healthy field of invitational cars which has fallen off a cliff over the last two years.
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drgitlin posted:If you want a laugh, check out any of the 2023 or 2024 when Sean Creech Motorsport tried running a Ligier LMP2 car in IMSA. It sucked even worse than their am driver (the one guy must have caused at least four cautions during one Rolex 24 by spinning). And it had a thin blue line paintjob. Never wanted to see a car crash more badly. That car got added to one of the serious business sims recently. It appeared once in the update trailer, crashing. harperdc posted:pretty sure that was last year, an absolute "well, let's see how that works for them, Cotton" moment. and that was before we saw the livery. The theory apparently was the Ligier was cheaper and they were expecting to be seconds off initially anyway so what's another 0.5 from choosing it. Of course to be 0.5 seconds off per lap, it helps to complete a lap.
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2025 Formula 4 ME Championship Round 4 Race 2 starting now. I've been catching a few of these rounds it's good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWqNiIp5FE
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WEC 2025 season kicks off Friday with the Qatar 1812km. Looking forward to seeing the new Valkyries in action although they probably won't be fighting for podiums much this season. Also interested in seeing how Hertz Team Jota does with the Cadillacs now that Ganassi is out. Unfortunately I'll be at work so I'll likely have to watch the replay unless I can manage to catch some of the race on my phone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdCHq2i4AI
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WEC 1812 km of Qatar has started and is about an hour and change deep. Not that I could watch all of that, the app was making GBS threads its pants for the first hour or so...
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harperdc posted:WEC 1812 km of Qatar has started and is about an hour and change deep. Not that I could watch all of that, the app was making GBS threads its pants for the first hour or so... Jota has hosed their race due to a blue on blue crash. Eurosport isn't skipping a beat here. Edit: #50 got punted by a BMW, hopefully he can return to the top podium as he was before the crash. SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Feb 28, 2025 |
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SlowBloke posted:Jota has hosed their race due to a blue on blue crash. Eurosport isn't skipping a beat here. Gold on gold more like. Eeesh. Still a lot of race to go, only 3.5 hours in.
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harperdc posted:Gold on gold more like. Eeesh. Iron lynx new merc cars are doing kinda bad, dames on the old Porsches are doing average. Akkodis seems to have tuned the Lexus right up, doing wonders.
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They did a quick recap, did one of the doors fly off of an Aston?
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qirex posted:They did a quick recap, did one of the doors fly off of an Aston? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9juQI9o1rE
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Hot glue fix that in a jiffy Drag racing is now. Love the drag racing. Go to Florida.
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coconono posted:Go to Florida. No
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Ferrari full podium  yay!
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They’d have less road rage if they sped up their stop light sequences. But yeah Florida is a punishment state.
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