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Kemono-san posted:man i can't get into wec anymore, and the announcers still being paid every time they say "golden age" has not gotten any less annoying You prefer four cars fighting for the win as opposed to 20? Or maybe six? I loved LMP1h, saw it race many times, but four or six prototypes versus the current Hypercar grid is no comparison. And the racing has been far more interesting to watch.
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Kemono-san posted:i don't really consider putting Porsche stickers on a Multimatic a factory effort, Having spoken to all the LMDh programs over the last few years I have to say this is badly mischaracterizing the programs. Next time Im at a race Ill put this to Urs Kuratle, Im sure he wont punch me in the face or anything. Also, if youre huffy about that then you ought to be huffy about the fact that Dallara built a whole bunch of the Audi LMP1 cars. Is the Ferrari 499P not a real Ferrari factory effort because Dallara make that car too?
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drgitlin posted:I loved LMP1h, saw it race many times, but four or six prototypes versus the current Hypercar grid is no comparison. yeah. a better comparison would be the 2010s LMP2 grid versus the current hypercar grid, maybe they'd be able to compete for the record the number of cars you need to have a good race is two (2). how many classic le mans were basically head-to-head fights?
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By that logic the whole Toyota program is ORECA too. Manufacturers by and large will contract service providers for design and operations, they're just better at racing.
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also this is just ignoring the actual problem i have, which is that the races no longer have any context. like every post-race discussion now isn't about who had the best car, or who had the best strategy - it's complaining about unknowable BOP politics.
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watch NHRA today if you wanna see some funny weather related antics
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Kemono-san posted:also this is just ignoring the actual problem i have, which is that the races no longer have any context. like every post-race discussion now isn't about who had the best car, or who had the best strategy - it's complaining about unknowable BOP politics. Yeah I dont know where youre reading/listening to for post-race stuff but much of what I see is strategy, execution and car setup. Even the interview and information on how Porsche won in LMDh at Qatar last year was interesting to show what margins are there and how teams make use of everything. A full F1 grids worth of top-level prototypes in full flight is still a pretty amazing site, too. BoP-based racing isnt as pure as the prior classes for GTs and LMPs, but its stable and the racing is great.
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sorry i'm grumpy. i just hate bop, and have seen it kill multiple racing series in my lifetime
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On the same note unrestricted budgets killed the WEC 2 times in 3 decades. (Though the time in the early 90s was the FIA trying to push prototype manufacturers into F1)
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also now im remembering some people asking if they'd invite a SuperGt gt500 car as a garage 56 entry like NASCAR, and having to be told that they are probably not going to add a garage 56 car that would outqualify the prototype field
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Kemono-san posted:GT500 is more top level than WEC these days Kemono-san posted:also now im remembering some people asking if they'd invite a SuperGt gt500 car as a garage 56 entry like NASCAR, and having to be told that they are probably not going to add a garage 56 car that would outqualify the prototype field Theyre probably close to LMDh in pace but also have a tire war, so that is a big part of the pace too. They put on the Hankooks for the DTM crossover race in 2018 or 2019 and werent streaking away. The Super GT OEMs also have an understanding of how to develop and how far to take things.
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harperdc posted:Theyre probably close to LMDh in pace but also have a tire war, so that is a big part of the pace too. They put on the Hankooks for the DTM crossover race in 2018 or 2019 and werent streaking away. I wouldn't say that Super GT OEMs have an understanding of how to develop and how far to take things. There's hard restrictions on horsepower, engine design (must be single turbocharged 2.0L I-4 with 3.5 bar of boost, 650PS max), aero development (cannot develop aero above a "design line" that wraps the fenders of the vehicle), fuel flow and type (100kg/h, ETS Racing Fuels R100), turbocharger (specifically must use the Garrett TR35R 84651915 turbocharger). They also place fuel and ballast restrictions on cars which perform above what JAF wants them to perform. That's a hell of a lot of performance balancing for a supposedly less restricted series. The reason they weren't streaking away from the DTM cars is they were both required to comply with the Class 1 Touring Car restrictions. Notably that rule set caused a collapse of the DTM series, with DTM switching fully to a FIA GT3 spec series after a season or 2 because the manufacturers deemed it not worth the cost to compete.
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Hyundai teasing more of the GMR-001 that's entering the WEC next year.  
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Insane GT3 wreck at the Le Mans Cup race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uoRy1kbEaE Iron Dames were leading too, she walked away amazingly. lamentable dustman fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Apr 6, 2025 |
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You gotta sugar the outside of the gas tanks if you race like that.
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If you stay ahead of the fire you get to win.
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lamentable dustman posted:Insane GT3 wreck at the Le Mans Cup race. I would hope whoever was driving the 51 Ferrari there gets parked for a very, very long time on the naughty step. That's a Forza pubbie room move.
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harperdc posted:I would hope whoever was driving the 51 Ferrari there gets parked for a very, very long time on the naughty step. That's a Forza pubbie room move. This, because holy poo poo that was deliberate and then some.
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Service announcement, lemans.org/lemans.com has updated their websites idp so you will have to reset your password to successfully log in to all their sites.
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The expected announcement from McLaren confirming a Hypercar program arrived yesterday: https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/04/10/mclaren-confirms-hypercar-programme.html https://youtu.be/pCDUVmKwfk8 Pretty thin on details, besides a 2027 WEC start. Im guessing well get more by Le Mans week. SlowBloke posted:Service announcement, lemans.org/lemans.com has updated their websites idp so you will have to reset your password to successfully log in to all their sites. I wonder if this also includes the WEC app again. Fun.
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Did they get hacked or is this a usual thing for them? Anyway 4wides in Vegas tomorrow. If you have never experienced 4 funny car launches at once, you simply cannot imagine what the engine related carnage and sound is truly like. Def better than Battlebots bullshit rear end 2 hour so called Destruct-a-thon.
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coconono posted:Did they get hacked or is this a usual thing for them? System redesign, consolidating most of the user management into a dedicated system instead of redundant data for each site. Sensible move, as long as the new identity provider(IdP) has been designed correctly.
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coconono posted:Did they get hacked or is this a usual thing for them? 4 wide is fun.
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tater_salad posted:4 wide is fun. If you are going to the drag races because you follow and care about drag racing as an organized competition, 4 wide is kinda a bummer because you end up with one less round of races to watch. If you are going to the drag races to bear witness to the apocalyptic fury of nitromethane, 4 wide rules so hard.
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Who does the first one. It's all about the second one.
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Drag racing has roots in carnie spectacles more than other racing formats. The proto-meme SUNDAY! SUNDAY!! SUNDAY!!!! came from drag racing advert and eventually made its way to monster truck and other auto mayhem exhibitions(bring back truckzilla!!!) even getting into completely non car related shows.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv-qXKieask Edit: someone stuffed their pre-war car in to the tyre barrier and visible bounced out of the car. Seeing them fly out the car and hit the barrier I assumed I'd just seen the worst. But amazingly a few seconds later he was up and checking his bent car. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Apr 13, 2025 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1ojkUGbTw Super GT at Okayama was very, very wet. harperdc fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Apr 13, 2025 |
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aaaaaaaaah that's my dude Smoke
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Reminder for people that are going to be stuck at easter with their family, you have WEC (Imola) and 24H (Spa) series this weekend. WEC is behind paywall, 24H is on YouTube, over the Creventic channel. Edit: official genesis livery is out https://www.24h-lemans.com/en/news/genesis-magma-racing-unveils-the-livery-of-its-gmr-001-hypercar-59515 SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 19, 2025 |
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