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Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
have Holly tell where the hologram disks were and boot up Peterson or someone.

It's always bothered me.

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Lister the Tormentor

worm girl
Feb 12, 2022

Can you hear it too?
I'm not OP but if I was I would change the thread title before anyone in GBS spots the word 'rimmer.'

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Lol.

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

[IMG-CHICKEN]
Because it's a show you smeghead

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
It's not a documentary about the future?

Well blow me down.

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here
"Oh hey, a Red Dwarf thread in GBS, I think I'll check it out..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36xSrKhCojw&t=36s

Bluemillion fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Feb 6, 2025

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

[IMG-CHICKEN]
The first time I heard the word vindaloo was on Red Dwarf and at first I thought they'd made it up

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Was there any indication Lister was good at computer?

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
"Holly, where did Rimmer hide the holodisks?"

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Lister isn't real he's just a character on a tv show called red dwarf

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

you broke my grill posted:

Lister isn't real he's just a character on a tv show called red dwarf

Do you have a source on that?

e: They could have just told Holly to do something doesn't seem like a valid criticism of the writing. Holly barely ever helped.

Sweaty IT Nerd fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 6, 2025

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

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Nap Ghost
My personal theory is that Holly recognised that Lister needed an authority figure to kick against more than he needed a friend, and that if he wasn't arguing with a hologram over which side of the towel rack the socks go on he'd be arguing with an AI over how to steer the ship.

..btt
Mar 26, 2008
Because Rimmer had the scutters hide them outside the ship, op. Also, he replaced at least one with copies of his own disk. Just watch the next few episodes, this all plays out very clearly.

Gasmask
Apr 27, 2003

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee
Hnadjob from a scutter

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
that's not really the biggest unaddressed plot hole in that show

why did red dwarf have to continue in (it's implied) a straight line for 3 million years? couldn't it just have like, orbited neptune for all that time or something

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Give me a good rimmer and I'll tell you

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Whybird posted:

My personal theory is that Holly recognised that Lister needed an authority figure to kick against more than he needed a friend, and that if he wasn't arguing with a hologram over which side of the towel rack the socks go on he'd be arguing with an AI over how to steer the ship.

from what I remember of the novels, Holly's reasoning touches on something like this, with a further note that all of the crew that Lister would call "friends" were more along the lines of "binge-drinking buddies", which might be what Lister wants but which does his long-term health and sanity no favors

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003





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Waltzing Along posted:

have Holly tell where the hologram disks were and boot up Peterson or someone.

It's always bothered me.

Lister DID ask Holly why he chose Rimmer to keep him company, and Holly explained that out of everyone on board Red Dwarf, Rimmer was the person he talked to the most (mainly because Rimmer was his supervisor as a technician.)

Anyway if the first part of the first episode of Red Dwarf is set when it was filmed (the mid 80s) then it's highly unlikely that Lister would know how to work a computer, given he's the lowest ranked crew member on the ship.

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

Phaiston have long avoided the tightly competetive defence sector, but the IRDA Act 2052 has given us the freedom we need to bring out something really special.

https://team-robostar.itch.io/robostar


Nap Ghost

SatansOnion posted:

from what I remember of the novels, Holly's reasoning touches on something like this, with a further note that all of the crew that Lister would call "friends" were more along the lines of "binge-drinking buddies", which might be what Lister wants but which does his long-term health and sanity no favors

The novelisations of Red Dwarf go some places

..btt
Mar 26, 2008

Whybird posted:

The novelisations of Red Dwarf go some places


For those who weren't massive nerds in the late 80s - this sequence happens while Rimmer is playing a VR video game that gives you everything you subconsciously desire.

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


it's cos lister is sound as

he wouldn't do that to someone, even rimmer

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020


it's because he's a smeghead OP

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Hammerite posted:

that's not really the biggest unaddressed plot hole in that show

why did red dwarf have to continue in (it's implied) a straight line for 3 million years? couldn't it just have like, orbited neptune for all that time or something

The computer is an AI that's essentially gone senile. It's shown over and over again that Holly isn't very competent and often tends to ignore things that are extremely obvious.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

Why didn't they kiss

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003





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Wungus posted:

Why didn't they kiss

They did.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Hammerite posted:

that's not really the biggest unaddressed plot hole in that show

why did red dwarf have to continue in (it's implied) a straight line for 3 million years? couldn't it just have like, orbited neptune for all that time or something

This was actually my next question. One step ahead of you. Now do you know the third question? It has to do with cats.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Panic! At The Tesco posted:

it's cos lister is sound as

he wouldn't do that to someone, even rimmer

I think this is where he ends up in later seasons. But in S1, he absolutely can't stand Rimmer.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

I didn't know this I don't watch star wars

They should kiss more

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
It's not star wars. That's the show for manbaby sad brains.

It's star TREK!

Lt. Cock
May 28, 2005

INCOMING!

Rubber Chicken posted:

The first time I heard the word vindaloo was on Red Dwarf and at first I thought they'd made it up

I think about Red Dwarf every time I get a vindaloo. I also thought it was a nonsense space word.

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Lt. Cock posted:

I think about Red Dwarf every time I get a vindaloo. I also thought it was a nonsense space word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZbzIHGj8U

every time i see or hear the word vindaloo i instantly picture cat and lister as the vindaloovians lol

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

Hammerite posted:

that's not really the biggest unaddressed plot hole in that show

why did red dwarf have to continue in (it's implied) a straight line for 3 million years? couldn't it just have like, orbited neptune for all that time or something

because there was a radiation leak, you gimboid. Holly's programming in that scenario was "leave the solar system and keep going"

credburn
Jun 22, 2016

To clarify: It's not me that sees it sexual. I think other people do and I can see why.
Lister is what Nostrodamus predicted re: Hitler right?

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

Laterite posted:

because there was a radiation leak, you gimboid. Holly's programming in that scenario was "leave the solar system and keep going"

you're a goit

ZemblaRex
Sep 21, 2024

I guess they just didn't do a good Rimmer job.

Duck_King
Sep 5, 2003

leader.bmp
Dwayne Dibbley?!

GreatMrPopo
Apr 17, 2003
i love kami-sama
Rimmah

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Waltzing Along posted:

I think this is where he ends up in later seasons. But in S1, he absolutely can't stand Rimmer.

They have dual redemption arks. That's unusual.

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Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003





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Also the original Rimmer dies in the radiation leak and is resurrected as a soft light hologram, meaning he doesn't have a physical body so cannot touch anything (although the writers often forgot about that or just ignored it entirely depending on the plot) then in the episode "Legion" Rimmer becomes a hard light hologram so he can touch things (which is important as he has to save the entire crew at the end of Series 6 using a hand-held bazookoid gun.)

In series 7 he departs to become Ace Rimmer (and shortly "returns" for that kiss) and we think that's the last of him, but he is resurrected along with the entire crew of Red Dwarf at the end of Series 7 (although we don't see him) and in Series 8 he is a human who once again joins the OG Dwarfers. He gets trapped in a mirror dimension at the end of Series 8 but refuses to go along with Death leaving his fate unknown.

By the time of "Back to Earth" he is a hologram again and it was confirmed by the creators that this Rimmer is the same Rimmer who left to become Ace Rimmer in Series 7 so there could possibly be two Rimmers out there in time and space (I stopped watching Red Dwarf at this point so I have no idea if the Dave episodes acknowledge this)

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