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Livo
Dec 31, 2023

I filled the balls
with a funnel!
https://futurism.com/neoscope/unitedhealthcare-threatens-legal-action-doctor

quote:

...In the aftermath of its CEO's stunning assassination, UnitedHealthcare is now threatening legal retaliation against those who criticize the insurance giant online.

Last month, Texas plastic surgeon Elisabeth Potter posted on TikTok and Instagram that she had just been interrupted in the middle of a procedure for a breast cancer patient with a supposedly "urgent" call. On the other line was a UHC representative, who asked her if it was absolutely necessary that her patient stay overnight post-surgery — a question that appalled the doctor and most everyone who saw the video.

A month after going viral, Potter made an entirely different social media post explaining that she had been contacted by UHC, accused of libel, and subjected to thinly veiled threats of legal retaliation if she didn't comply with the company's demands
. In the letter, the surgeon was told that UHC had never asked her to step out of surgery and only called her because the company believed that her request for her patient's overnight stay — a claim that was eventually denied — was made in error.

Furthermore, the company accused Potter of knowingly sharing "misinformation" and hosting threats against the company's executives because people made references to Luigi Mangione, the alleged assassin of UHC CEO Brian Thompson, in the comments of her videos...As Bloomberg reported around the same time that Potter posted the cease and desist letter, UHC had hired preeminent defamation law firm Clare Locke — the one that got Dominion Voting Systems a nearly $800 million settlement in 2023 in its defamation case against Fox News — to handle its case against Potter.

Along with taking Potter to task, Clare Locke also sicced the Securities and Exchange Commission on billionaire investor Bill Ackman after he shared the surgeon's video on his own X account...

The whole article is long & worth a read, so I won't quote it all. Suffice to say, their public reputation amongst regular people clearly isn't something they care about!

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Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

all is right with the world especially as I lay waste to my fellow IKs
Grimey Drawer
This doesn't surprise me.

I've seen health insurance call in to the middle of a surgery to approve a portion of the procedure. After they had already packed up the instruments needed for that part.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
"It's the doctor's fault for reporting our lovely mid-procedure interruption call that our CEO got murdered!" is one hot holy hell of a take that I would hope has no chance in hell of even making it to a court, much less holding up in one. But this is America, and we just elected Trump for president a second time, so who knows anymore.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Just heard there's a new executive order that this doctor has to clean the turlets on the executive floors of UHC HQ. Thank you T

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

mario bros is a foundational text

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

Ask me about reopening your favorite recently closed thread!
Man UHC memoryholed that CEO so fast lol

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Feelin' Fine.

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Man UHC memoryholed that CEO so fast lol

Every one of us is replaceable at work, even if we make our way up to CEO.

And especially if our death almost starts a massive wave of support for dismantling the systems that everyone hates but has to live with anyway.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Man UHC memoryholed that CEO so fast lol

The new one is also a husband and a father :shrug:

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Man UHC memoryholed that CEO so fast lol

We pay this person millions of dollars a year because they’re irreplaceable (until they’re dead, in which case they’re easily replaced).

Might be that these c-suites aren’t worth their pay or something?

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

funeral home DJ posted:

We pay this person millions of dollars a year because they’re irreplaceable (until they’re dead, in which case they’re easily replaced).

Might be that these c-suites aren’t worth their pay or something?

someone has to win the lottery once in awhile to give the scrubs something to fight over

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
I enjoy the part of the article where United healthcare hires a defamation professional, and it's the same one that Fox News used for their lies about vote theft.

It really is reading an article about how one supervillain found someone to make costumes, because that person made costumes for another supervillain.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003



nullandvoid posted:

I enjoy the part of the article where United healthcare hires a defamation professional, and it's the same one that Fox News used for their lies about vote theft.

It really is reading an article about how one supervillain found someone to make costumes, because that person made costumes for another supervillain.

the law firm they hired sued fox news on behalf of dominion and won

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

MrQwerty posted:

the law firm they hired sued fox news on behalf of dominion and won

I want to explode with the laughter of madness, the kind that borders on insanely angry screeching.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011


When ilovebeersooomuch isn't posting, all the other goons should be asking "where's ilovebeersooomuch?" That's what I think.
What if they improved their reputation by not doing the things that Luigi killed the CEO for doing

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011


When ilovebeersooomuch isn't posting, all the other goons should be asking "where's ilovebeersooomuch?" That's what I think.
Lol

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

What if they improved their reputation by not doing the things that Luigi killed the CEO for doing

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003



BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

What if they improved their reputation by not doing the things that Luigi killed the CEO for doing

but then they wouldnt be minmaxing profits while maxxxing human suffering

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

We need a Huey Long to pop up and tear these loving poo poo hole companies down.

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

nullandvoid posted:

I want to explode with the laughter of madness, the kind that borders on insanely angry screeching.

A law firm being entirely mercenary is even less surprising than an insurance company dickering over a hospital stay.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003



Lister posted:

A law firm being entirely mercenary is even less surprising than an insurance company dickering over a hospital stay.

yeah thats kinda their job

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

nullandvoid posted:

I want to explode with the laughter of madness, the kind that borders on insanely angry screeching.

this you?

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I have unironically felt that madness feeling before IRL, and it is an experience and a half. Like a nuclear reactor is going prompt critical in your chest, and you can physically feel your brain matter going crazy. Part of your urge to laugh comes from the fact that the nerve-less matter that makes up your brain actually tickles.

Imagine feeling an actual tickling sensation in your brain and neurons as everything you thought you knew about the world around you suddenly completely changes, and in an instant your head is filled with a whole new library of knowledge that is unbelievably and indescribably empowering to you. That's madness. That is what going mad feels like. It is an incredibly freeing and perhaps also terrifying experience. I still remember the day I first felt it for myself.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

Ask me about reopening your favorite recently closed thread!

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

What if they improved their reputation by not doing the things that Luigi killed the CEO for doing

After that their new CEO said their mandate was to "prevent unnecessary care" so really the fish is rotting from the head on that one

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

when are they going to start calling "unnecessary care" welfare or socialism and demonizing any minor claim

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003



Smugworth posted:

when are they going to start calling "unnecessary care" welfare or socialism and demonizing any minor claim

35 years ago

i remember UHC getting pretty mad about my shoulder rebuild in 2003 because they didn't really know if a shoulder surgery for a disease like ehlers danlos was really the necessary route because of the potential of complications and my ortho was exhausted with them to the point of talking unprofessionally with the patient about them by the time he did it

i was 17 then and im turning 39 in april and its only gotten worse

MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Feb 10, 2025

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I feel like if a doctor with a medical degree in the relevant field says something is necessary, even if it turns out that it's not, then insurance should automatically assume it's necessary and that the doctor is correct and then pay for it, because the doctor is the one with the medical degree and knowledge caring for the patient and the insurance company is just some bean counters who've never even met the patient in person before, but this is America and that would cost insurance CEOs money.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003



I. M. Gei posted:

I feel like if a doctor with a medical degree in the relevant field says something is necessary, even if it turns out that it's not, then insurance should automatically assume it's necessary and the doctor is correct, because the doctor is the one with the medical degree and knowledge caring for the patient and the insurance company is just some bean counters, but this is America and that would cost insurance CEOs money.

well see money $$$ you're a loving idiot and owe us money yeah its fake money so what ur dumb +++++++++ 0wned now pay me double annually for the convenience of having this conversation, the end; the "tesla automotive" approach to customer service.

this is more relevant now than ever since insurance companies are using ai slop to deny claims

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Les Miserables was a documentary.

naem
May 29, 2011



Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

all is right with the world especially as I lay waste to my fellow IKs
Grimey Drawer

I. M. Gei posted:

I feel like if a doctor with a medical degree in the relevant field says something is necessary, even if it turns out that it's not, then insurance should automatically assume it's necessary and that the doctor is correct and then pay for it, because the doctor is the one with the medical degree and knowledge caring for the patient and the insurance company is just some bean counters who've never even met the patient in person before, but this is America and that would cost insurance CEOs money.

We'll see that's the evil thing. They have this system set up called Peer to Peers.

Your doctor, who knows you and your problems, talks to the insurance company's doctor.

The other doctor doesn't know you and is paid to keep denying claims.

The insurance company turns to your doctor and says "See IC doctor says it isn't necessary, permission denied".

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003


Who was this
He looks familiar, like somebody I thought was a really cool based dude, but I seem to have forgotten
Was he in the news

Roundup Ready
Mar 10, 2004

ACCIDENTAL SHIT POSTER


Free the weeg!

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

Roundup Ready posted:

Free the weeg!

Aishlinn
Mar 31, 2011

This might hurt a bit..


i just hope luigi's jury is comprised of people who were negatively affected by uhc's terrible practices. "Not guilty, your honor." "we have a confession, we have video evidence, we have dna evidence, he did everything short of painting "I did it" on the ground in the victim's blood and signing it. is that really your verdict?" "Yes, your honor, unanimously not guilty."


i mean honestly the only way they arent going to get people to be on the jury who don't hate the company is to have the jury be company board members, and i'm pretttttty sure that's not gonna fly either.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008
free weegy

Griz
May 21, 2001


I. M. Gei posted:

I feel like if a doctor with a medical degree in the relevant field says something is necessary, even if it turns out that it's not, then insurance should automatically assume it's necessary and that the doctor is correct and then pay for it, because the doctor is the one with the medical degree and knowledge caring for the patient and the insurance company is just some bean counters who've never even met the patient in person before, but this is America and that would cost insurance CEOs money.

I broke my arm in 2022, went to PT twice weekly for 3 months, it didn't get better so they told me to get a new referral, doctor sent it in and the insurance approved a whole two more sessions

when ortho tried to refer me for MRI, the insurance sat on it for months and then denied it saying they needed more xrays even though the last set of xrays showed the bone was fully healed

I ended up needing rotator cuff surgery but surprisingly they didn't argue about that

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

Smugworth posted:

The new one is also a husband and a father :shrug:

is married and hosed at least once, nice

some people have it all :(

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AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Anderson Koopa posted:

We'll see that's the evil thing. They have this system set up called Peer to Peers.

Your doctor, who knows you and your problems, talks to the insurance company's doctor.

The other doctor doesn't know you and is paid to keep denying claims.

The insurance company turns to your doctor and says "See IC doctor says it isn't necessary, permission denied".

also the insurance company doctors work there because they've been run out of actual hospitals



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