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Jim Ross
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:

rafikki posted:

We’re about halfway through season 5 after starting it due to The Pitt. I’d never watched it before and have really been enjoying it. Is there a generally accepted point it starts going downhill?

Season 10 has flashes of real good episodes but that's about when I felt "hmm, the show is kinda feeling alittle sluggish"

But season 11 is definitely the start of the downward trend and season 12 is the "oh no, the show is kinda bad now"

But the final season, and a episode in season 14 which has a character return for a final appearance, are definitely a must watch if you get through 10 of them because it's basically the "we got a final season to close the show and god drat it we're going bring as many people back for cameos as we can"

Also funny going back to early E.R. And there's Ving Rhames as the brother in law to Dr.Benton

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Laughing Zealot posted:

Does Grey's Anatomy have any other of the original cast aside from the titular Grey nowadays?

As far as I can tell, only Bailey and Webber are left from the original cast (don't watch it regularly, but my wife does).

GB Luxury Hamper
Nov 27, 2002

The reason I started rewatching ER was a random tweet with a short clip from season 1 where they are waiting for a helicopter on the roof of the hospital. Clearly shot on location in Chicago. The tweet said that they simply wouldn't do that today, it would be all greenscreen and CGI.

(is there a more appropriate thread for ER chats? I am on season 5 now and I'd love to talk about it more, but I don't want to spam this thread)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

GB Luxury Hamper posted:

The reason I started rewatching ER was a random tweet with a short clip from season 1 where they are waiting for a helicopter on the roof of the hospital. Clearly shot on location in Chicago. The tweet said that they simply wouldn't do that today, it would be all greenscreen and CGI.

Pretty funny given that I'm pretty sure the completely extraneous helicopter scene in this season of The Pitt was shot practically.

Jim Ross
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
The Pitt's real helicopter scene made me go :allears:, because I felt everyone in the writer's room went "we gotta have a atleast one helicopter scene"

ER helicopter scenes were always cool, I mean in this one, they do a walk and talk before getting in one

https://youtu.be/9PmKgqa_UGE?si=eibpn0yABm3eQJt0

GB Luxury Hamper
Nov 27, 2002

Jim Ross posted:


Also funny going back to early E.R. And there's Ving Rhames as the brother in law to Dr.Benton

There's also a S3 episode with a young Ewan McGregor as a guy who robs a grocery store with his cousin and ends up taking hostages. He has an atrocious 90s haircut and he's kind of...not very good? The role is just "shouty Scotsman in a hostage situation" and then he dies and Carol is sad.

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010


Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

Zwabu posted:

Has any show ever had as complete a cast turnover as ER? I suppose Carter was still there from the original characters at the end, but.. anyone else?

Law and Order. NCIS, sort of, but some originals came back later.

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave
that tamagotchi had the biggest cameo

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Alhazred posted:

So I don't know about the specific rules in the US, but I work with kids and if someone said to me that "I believe that my husband is molesting our daughter" I would be in seriously trouble if I didn't immediately alerted the cps.

WA state just expanded mandatory reporting to include clergy. Take a wild guess which church had been fighting that for years.

Open Source Idiom posted:

Pretty funny given that I'm pretty sure the completely extraneous helicopter scene in this season of The Pitt was shot practically.

Recently rewatched Margin Call & in two outdoor scenes, characters look out of frame & comment that they see the CEO’s helicopter landing a short distance away. That’s a smart way to do it on a limited budget.

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Pretty sure there were two chopper scenes? One with the burnt farmer and one with the blood.

I both want and don't want to rewatch ER. Very fond memories of it, I don't want to overwrite or sour them.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Thranguy posted:

Law and Order. NCIS, sort of, but some originals came back later.

Law & Order completely turned over its cast by season five if you include Stephen Hill replacing the original DA in the pilot.

I think some of the recurring nurses were around for the entire run of er: Lydia, Haleh and Malik (rip Deezer D).

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
The Kubester was on most seasons too, just took a year or two off every now and then when he would get cast in a pilot that didn't take off.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

Alright, finished the season, great stuff, bring us more!

Prediction: next season will be a night-shift, where Budget Chris Pine has been sent as punishment for his shenanigans.

Also, you know the writers didn’t operate on the usual medical drama-machinery because they didn’t have O’Driscoll getting sent in as a heart attack victim at the end. Thought that was a pretty obvious set-up (would absolutely have happened in House) but they didn’t need that cheese, and they knew it. Kudos.

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 15, 2025

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Keep it day shift, save the night shift for the off season spin off.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

BigglesSWE posted:

Prediction: next season will be a night-shift, where Budget Chris Pine has been sent as punishment for his shenanigans.

Are you talking about Langdon?

canadianclassic
Nov 3, 2004


BigglesSWE posted:

they didn’t have O’Driscoll getting sent in as a heart attack victim at the end. Thought that was a pretty obvious set-up (would absolutely have happened in House) but they didn’t need that cheese, and they knew it. Kudos.

I really love the show for that. It's about the here and now, not everyone gets on-screen justice (I was glad the dude got arrested), and sometimes bad poo poo just happens without need for explanation.

They could have easily made David the shooter or had the shooter come in for treatment, causing a debate on whether to go all-in on treatment or not but they resisted the temptation and kept the focus on the medicine and the characters we already know.

Already can't wait for the next season.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Alhazred posted:

So I don't know about the specific rules in the US, but I work with kids and if someone said to me that "I believe that my husband is molesting our daughter" I would be in seriously trouble if I didn't immediately alerted the cps.

Yes.They all should have reported that and the line about how they don't have enough information/proof or whatever is absolutely incorrect. There are pretty regular trainings for it in PA and it is required for license renewal and they are really clear that you do not need proof, you just need suspicion.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

BigglesSWE posted:

Alright, finished the season, great stuff, bring us more!

Prediction: next season will be a night-shift, where Budget Chris Pine has been sent as punishment for his shenanigans.

no need to make guesses, the show's EPs did an interview with TVLine that got into the setup for season 2, including who will or won't be back Nurse Dana isn't leaving.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

live with fruit posted:

Are you talking about Langdon?

Yes. Actor is Patrick Ball apparently and he’s good, I just call him that because he gives me Chris Pine vibes. It’s not a criticism.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah I mean he looks pretty much exactly like Chris Pine

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

BigglesSWE posted:

Yes. Actor is Patrick Ball apparently and he’s good, I just call him that because he gives me Chris Pine vibes. It’s not a criticism.

Quite the contrary.

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


It's interesting to see how many new "doctor reacts" channels have popped up due to The Pitt. This is one that I like, the two of them are cute as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPLdzu5DhLE

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Escobarbarian posted:

Yeah I mean he looks pretty much exactly like Chris Pine

Nah I was getting much more of a Full House-Era John Stamos resemblance.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

Laughing Zealot posted:

It's also really obvious to see the effect that Grey's Anatomy has on the show since it ran alongside it for the last 4 seasons or so.

I started a rewatch a couple years ago and at some point it falls into the "every episode must end with a musical montage" trap and it completely turned me back off to it.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

BigglesSWE posted:

Yes. Actor is Patrick Ball apparently and he’s good, I just call him that because he gives me Chris Pine vibes. It’s not a criticism.

He said in an interview that both of his parents were emergency workers. His mother was an ER nurse and his father an EMT. His father held some sort of distinction for the most successful resuscitations in a year and working on the show, and learning what he has for the show breaks his heart for his dad because if had that many successes how many people didn't make it.

NuclearEagleFox!!!
Oct 7, 2011
A few amazing things I heard in the interviews:

- Exterior (mainly the roof) shots were done before writing was complete. Noah specifically said Robby's speech hadn't been written when Abbot talks about it in roof part 2. There's so many little choices the show makes to cut the cheese so to speak, and that's one of them. A different show might have had Abbot reference Robby's speech to talk him down, but people in real life don't really talk like that.

- The MCI was added between the initial outline and filming, when Max asked for 15 episodes instead of 12. One of the writers mentioned that they made it up to keep day shift at the hospital longer. And yet it's so tightly integrated with the rest of the show that I can't imagine this season without it, especially not hitting the same highs and character pressure points.

Now we often hear about how studio meddling fucks with a show and hurts it. But it's interesting to hear how it can push something into a better spot (if the creators are good enough).

Edit: everyone thirsting for Mateo and Robby are sleeping on Nurse Fade

NuclearEagleFox!!! fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Apr 16, 2025

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
omg Santos is so tactless and useless

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Mods, ban the Santos haters. :colbert:

She's good at what she does, she's just socially abrasive and cocky. (Oh no, a flawed character who will conflict with people in my television drama about conflict.)

Her excitedly diving into gnarly procedures is no more cowboy or overconfident than half the poo poo Abbott did in the last few eps.

Ravenfood posted:

I stand by "gently caress Santos, she is going to kill someone someday".
She will. But so will literally everyone else on the show!

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

VagueRant posted:

Her excitedly diving into gnarly procedures is no more cowboy or overconfident than half the poo poo Abbott did in the last few eps.

I mean, there's a bit of a difference between a 3rd(?) year medical student and an attending with decades of both hospital and combat medicine experience?

She's fine, and fair play for calling out Langdon, but she could have at least stopped calling Javadi that nickname when she explicitly asked her to multiple times after saying she didn't like it. That's just a dick move.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Yeah, even as a Santos defender she is definitely a dick.

I wouldn't add her to the work groupchat, but she's still a good character I can root for.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

She very pointedly used Whitaker’s real name at the end (while calling him a real Huckleberry) so she’s learning!

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

VagueRant posted:

Mods, ban the Santos haters. :colbert:

She's good at what she does, she's just socially abrasive and cocky. (Oh no, a flawed character who will conflict with people in my television drama about conflict.)

Her excitedly diving into gnarly procedures is no more cowboy or overconfident than half the poo poo Abbott did in the last few eps.

She will. But so will literally everyone else on the show!
An intern on her second (?) rotation and an attending with at least a decade of experience as an attending probably shouldn't have the same level of confidence.

She can be an interesting character to watch and also desperately need to have people pull her aside and tell her to knock it the gently caress off. She's a walking Dunning-Krueger case study and has no idea what she doesn't know.

Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Apr 16, 2025

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

No Benton fist pump, 0/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oRN_i77Ygk

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




VagueRant posted:

Mods, ban the Santos haters. :colbert:

She's good at what she does, she's just socially abrasive and cocky. (Oh no, a flawed character who will conflict with people in my television drama about conflict.)

Her excitedly diving into gnarly procedures is no more cowboy or overconfident than half the poo poo Abbott did in the last few eps.


She dropped a scalpel on another doctor's foot, a scalpel that could theoretically be infected with HIV.

canadianclassic
Nov 3, 2004


Santos is an intern so she's in her first year after graduating med school. Technically a doctor and able to write orders/do minor things without supervision but should be reporting to her seniors for anything serious.

She's dangerous because she has just enough knowledge to think she knows what's happening/what to do, and not enough to recognize when she's out of her depth (see bipap on a guy with a pneumothorax). The students are less dangerous because they can't make orders and recognize their own limitations still.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Santos tortured a patient and threatened him with prison rape. That's pretty bad.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

Santos very clearly has some history with abuse so she’s lashing out when she encounters it. It’s definitely not good but it’s very human.

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

I've never betrayed anyone in my entire life.

BigglesSWE posted:

She very pointedly used Whitaker’s real name at the end (while calling him a real Huckleberry) so she’s learning!

As a former Nebraskan oaf I’ll take huckleberry as a nickname think it’s santos best work

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Taking offense to huckleberry is taking offense to Val Kilmer and I won't stand for that.

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Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Honestly she bullied Whitaker pretty badly despite him having quite a bad day regardless.

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