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howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

There was a lot of exceptionally good dramatic acting in that episode, like just hand Noah Wylie that Emmy already, but Santos telling the nurses she knew what they were saying got a genuine guffaw out of me.

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Stone Pitbull 141
Jan 9, 2008

So glad that The baby and the mother survived.

Madame Psychosis
Jul 24, 2009
poor Mohan can't seem to win for winning.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I assume that Langdon will be back next week, if Dr. Collins has gone home with her phone turned off they will probably need all the doctors they can get

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

drat the rubber special effects guys must have had an interesting week with that one

InlandEmpire
Jul 22, 2006

My brain hurts
Oh I wonder who the active shooter is... only complaint besides the heavy handing of political issues is how transparent and linear all is... somebody even caught the pizza for morale coming in this same thread! Still fully worth it and eps seems to last like 10 mins.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Oasx posted:

I assume that Langdon will be back next week, if Dr. Collins has gone home with her phone turned off they will probably need all the doctors they can get

My nightmare scenario (just speculation but I'm quoting somehow someone spoilered):

1. Langdon comes back and does some heroics, maybe saves Robbie's stepson.
2. Robbie is obligated to sweep the pills under the rug
3. Langdon voluntarily goes to rehab
4. Santos ends up a pariah, nobody knows everything but the whisper is that she's a Buddy Fucker
5. Langdon is back with huge grudge in season 2


I can see why they'd do it, it's dramatic, but I really hope they don't gently caress over a young female whistle blower, that seems bleak even for a show that's already killed off a kid.

#TeamSantos

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


Santos's first day on the job she outs an very liked fellow colleague. Doesn't matter if she was right, it's gonna rub most of the staff the wrong way due to human nature. Like the surgeon lady who seemingly ended their partnership with the words "You're trouble".

Robbie telling Santos to keep a lid on the incident only for her to literally call someone to talk about it as he walks away said a lot.

Not sure how the Langdon situation will play out but it feels like a certainty that he comes back in on his own to offer help during the incoming shitstorm, question is if Robbie will allow it.

shirunei
Sep 7, 2018

I tried to run away. To take the easy way out. I'll live through the suffering. When I die, I want to feel like I did my best.
Robbie has already all but decided to give langdon some kind of pass or he wouldn't have tried to give the meds back to the patient.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Laughing Zealot posted:

Santos's first day on the job she outs an very liked fellow colleague. Doesn't matter if she was right, it's gonna rub most of the staff the wrong way due to human nature. Like the surgeon lady who seemingly ended their partnership with the words "You're trouble".

Robbie telling Santos to keep a lid on the incident only for her to literally call someone to talk about it as he walks away said a lot.

Not sure how the Langdon situation will play out but it feels like a certainty that he comes back in on his own to offer help during the incoming shitstorm, question is if Robbie will allow it.

It seems almost a certainty robby will accept it because he has consistently shown a willingness to break some rules if it is objectively going to save lives but he will probably have some harsh conditionals and force Langdon to take some time off and get his poo poo together. They already showed how thinly he’s stretched with only two critical patients.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
A small moment I really liked in episode 10 was when Langdon was stressing out about Santos catching onto him and telling Robby and he distracted himself (and, I'm sure in his mind, others) by talking about randomly making salmon for his family. Recontextualized the surprise puppy they had been talking about. Nice, well-observed detail on top of his increasingly paranoid glances.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Wondered if they’d do a segment where someone understood Tagalog & the nurses gossiping. Buddy had fun with that once when he was working fast food & a couple in line were being incredibly profane in their language, & at end of their order asked them in same language if they wanted a drink with that.

Tosk
Feb 22, 2013

I am sorry. I have no vices for you to exploit.

Laughing Zealot posted:

Santos's first day on the job she outs an very liked fellow colleague. Doesn't matter if she was right, it's gonna rub most of the staff the wrong way due to human nature. Like the surgeon lady who seemingly ended their partnership with the words "You're trouble".

Robbie telling Santos to keep a lid on the incident only for her to literally call someone to talk about it as he walks away said a lot.

Not sure how the Langdon situation will play out but it feels like a certainty that he comes back in on his own to offer help during the incoming shitstorm, question is if Robbie will allow it.

In her defense, she called Dr. García (I think that is the surgeon's name) to ask her to please keep a lid on what she had already told her, but given her previous reaction I didn't really understand why she bothered at all, except as a form of attention-seeking behavior.

Other stuff this episode was kind of predictable and yeah, the show moralizes a bit, but it's very good at what it's attempting to be, which isn't a medical mystery series. The next episode is going to be brutal.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

shirunei posted:

Robbie has already all but decided to give langdon some kind of pass or he wouldn't have tried to give the meds back to the patient.

I feel like if incel kid is the shooter he's gonna rethink his "Just wish the problem to go away" philosophy

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I really like McKay as a character, but she has been completely out of line throughout this storyline, constantly seeking out and insulting a patient and now threatening a guest at the hospital

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Oasx posted:

I really like McKay as a character, but she has been completely out of line throughout this storyline, constantly seeking out and insulting a patient and now threatening a guest at the hospital

You can't really blame her. It's her latent Chucky DNA surfacing.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Caesar Saladin posted:

drat the rubber special effects guys must have had an interesting week with that one

This and Children of Men seem to be tied for most realistic birthing scene.

I'm genuinely wondering if the Pitt-Fest shooter is actually the incel kid, or if it's just some other rando.

Only because if he had it out for those specific girls, wouldn't they (and therefore he) be in school? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was taking place on a weekday, which is why the mother faked her illness to go to the ER since she didn't want her son in school. Which isn't to say some high school kids wouldn't skip school for a music fest, or that a kid with his problems wouldn't decide to shoot some other location, but it's almost that his potential shooting has been played up so much I almost expect them to swerve on it.


But it does seem like we know what McKay did to earn her ankle monitor. Seems to have assaulted her ex's new GF, what with that mention of the restraining order.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Open Source Idiom posted:

You can't really blame her. It's her latent Chucky DNA surfacing.

I know her only from Dirk Gently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LP8nNPvdg

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Wondered if they’d do a segment where someone understood Tagalog & the nurses gossiping. Buddy had fun with that once when he was working fast food & a couple in line were being incredibly profane in their language, & at end of their order asked them in same language if they wanted a drink with that.

Santos definitely burned the reveal way too early on that, but it’s exactly in line with her character.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Vulture has a breakdown of how they filmed the birth. There was a lot going on under that gurney.

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


One thing that still feels a bit weird is the way Garcia instantly decided to make Santos her personal project.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

howe_sam posted:

Vulture has a breakdown of how they filmed the birth. There was a lot going on under that gurney.

I know she's a respected cinematographer with decades of good work in Hollywood but I still have a minor freakout when I see Quyen Tran in the credits for something I like

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


DarklyDreaming posted:

I know she's a respected cinematographer with decades of good work in Hollywood but I still have a minor freakout when I see Quyen Tran in the credits for something I like

Why?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Laughing Zealot posted:

One thing that still feels a bit weird is the way Garcia instantly decided to make Santos her personal project.

She wants to gently caress her, no?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

The shortest, simplest answer is she's married to someone from the web series that inspired my profile pic over there (critical role)

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LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

DrBouvenstein posted:

I'm genuinely wondering if the Pitt-Fest shooter is actually the incel kid, or if it's just some other rando.

Only because if he had it out for those specific girls, wouldn't they (and therefore he) be in school? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was taking place on a weekday, which is why the mother faked her illness to go to the ER since she didn't want her son in school. Which isn't to say some high school kids wouldn't skip school for a music fest, or that a kid with his problems wouldn't decide to shoot some other location, but it's almost that his potential shooting has been played up so much I almost expect them to swerve on it.


I think in-show it's 6PM now.

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
I thought it was weird that they let robbie's stepson just hang out in the ER, and in the staff area. that seems like HIPAA violation, or at least an ethical issue

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Errorname posted:

The show does pretty clearly think the Abortion is a good thing that should happen.

The show does a pretty clear job showing that Abortion is a medical procedure that should happen if the patient doesn't want a fetus to ruin their life. Which is what rational people think.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

howe_sam posted:

Vulture has a breakdown of how they filmed the birth. There was a lot going on under that gurney.

Had a chuckle at one of the dad’s taking out his phone to play music & it being slapped away instantly. Well intentioned but dude you stand there silently & do whatever is asked of you by mom or the doctors, that is it.

actionjackson posted:

I thought it was weird that they let robbie's stepson just hang out in the ER, and in the staff area. that seems like HIPAA violation, or at least an ethical issue

Good point although I think just wandering around isn’t a HIPAA issue if he’s not on a computer or handling prescriptions. Seems like a high traffic area with computers secured.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
My mom was an E.R. nurse and I'd visit her at work all the time. Like, I couldn't hang out with her in patient rooms, but I could be in the staff lounge area or the charge desk if there was nothing going on. This was 20 years ago though. The crazy thing was I was allowed to rock and play with the babies that didn't have anyone visit them. Sharp contrast today where the wards are locked down tight and newborns have baby lowjacks.

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


Open Source Idiom posted:

She wants to gently caress her, no?

Feels like the most legit explanation.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Good point although I think just wandering around isn’t a HIPAA issue if he’s not on a computer or handling prescriptions. Seems like a high traffic area with computers secured.

So the fun thing about HIPAA is that it only applies to people who work in, or adjacent to, healthcare. So Robbie's step-son isn't bound by it, the same way that you or I* aren't bound by it if we happen to see our neighbor in the ER getting something removed from someplace they never should have stuck it.

It definitely becomes tricky when it comes to friends or family being invited into nominally staff-only areas and then obtaining PII that way, so I'll leave that to people more knowledgeable than me to discuss.

And then on top of all that, you have to understand EVERY hospital is horrendous with HIPAA. People gossip, and it sucks. I'll admit I might have violated HIPAA at least once when I was young. I told my parents I saw my landlord in the hospital I was working at when I was like 21, literally first job out of college. I didn't, and still don't, know what she was there for, so maybe not a violation? Over 20 years ago at this point.**


*Assuming you or I only see them in the ER in a non-professional capacity.

**OH GOD that was really over 20 years ago? :corsair:

DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Mar 15, 2025

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

My nightmare scenario (just speculation but I'm quoting somehow someone spoilered):

#TeamSantos

This all seems very plausible and on-brand for the show.

Laughing Zealot posted:

Santos's first day on the job she outs an very liked fellow colleague. Doesn't matter if she was right, it's gonna rub most of the staff the wrong way due to human nature. Like the surgeon lady who seemingly ended their partnership with the words "You're trouble".

I hope not. I would be perfectly fine with a coworker getting shitcanned for being high on the job. They're not my "family", I already have one of those, and I have friends too that thankfully work far away from healthcare.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

My mom was an E.R. nurse and I'd visit her at work all the time. Like, I couldn't hang out with her in patient rooms, but I could be in the staff lounge area or the charge desk if there was nothing going on. This was 20 years ago though. The crazy thing was I was allowed to rock and play with the babies that didn't have anyone visit them. Sharp contrast today where the wards are locked down tight and newborns have baby lowjacks.

I transport new moms and babies out of the maternity floor from time to time. The unit nurses are supposed to remove the baby lojack before I get up there, and I always double check to make sure they do, but the one time I didn't... Of course it was still on and alarms and strobes started blaring and the unit went on lockdown until the doors could be overridden by security.

It was a little embarrassing and a bit comical because if you knew me, you'd know the last thing I want in my life is a baby.

Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Mar 15, 2025

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

DrBouvenstein posted:

This and Children of Men seem to be tied for most realistic birthing scene.


Imo that crown belongs hands down to Call the Midwife.

Errorname
Nov 24, 2024

Sets low personal standards, consistently fails to achieve them

DarklyDreaming posted:

The shortest, simplest answer is she's married to someone from the web series that inspired my profile pic over there (critical role)

Ah, I see. From the way you phrased that I sort of assumed it was a negative association.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I can see why they'd do it, it's dramatic, but I really hope they don't gently caress over a young female whistle blower, that seems bleak even for a show that's already killed off a kid.

I do think the show thinks Santos was in the right to investigate and expose Langdon. There probably will be social consequences and we definitely haven't seen the last of Langdon, but I don't think the show's going to condemn Santos for it

Stone Pitbull 141
Jan 9, 2008

It would be great in season 2 if Langdon comes back on probation and Santos avoids him like the plague only for him to finally get her alone and thank her for giving him a kick in the rear end to get clean, but that he was still right about her additude.

Also, I didn't read flirty from Garcia, probably because I worked with people like her that file people into poo poo lists and don't remove them even if the person gets better and becomes really good at their job.

canadianclassic
Nov 3, 2004


I wish I waited to watch this ep... cliffhanger is killing me. At least I now have ER to fill some gaps but it doesn't hit quite the same.

Also now watching ER, I'm seeing it's pretty different from The Pitt and Chricton's estate trying to sue over it is a bit of a reach. Only similarity imo is that it's set in the ER and stars Noah Wyle. The format of it is totally unique. Of course there is overlap in any show set in an emergency department

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

canadianclassic posted:

I wish I waited to watch this ep... cliffhanger is killing me. At least I now have ER to fill some gaps but it doesn't hit quite the same.

Also now watching ER, I'm seeing it's pretty different from The Pitt and Chricton's estate trying to sue over it is a bit of a reach. Only similarity imo is that it's set in the ER and stars Noah Wyle. The format of it is totally unique. Of course there is overlap in any show set in an emergency department

Their argument is that The Pitt started as an ER spin-off and was then retooled after the estate rejected it. Which is true, but they probably don't have a leg to stand on because of said retooling.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Objection, your honor. We clearly ripped off 24 more.

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modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
i started watching ER from season 1 because of this show. i miss the 90s :corsair:

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