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Pcmaker
Feb 11, 2025
Anyone a fan?

I've never heard of it before, then it was advertised on Netflix, so I binged it. I loved it so much, and I couldn't wait 5 years for season 2, so I started reading the books. I read all 3 of it and loved them.

I don't understand how they think they can make season 2 without spending a trillion dollars. The scale of the series is so massive, it spans the entire universe... and outside of it.

It's the craziest book series I've ever read and it's scary as poo poo.

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THRILLHO lives
Nov 22, 2024

by Pragmatica
Ya the algos been tryin to sell me that poo poo too but i said nah on principle

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008
No I don't read books

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight
Do they explain why they had to cut the boat into a million pieces? It really didn't seem helpful in any way.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49
Chunkzilla from GoT playing VR doesn’t seem interesting. What’s going on here

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

I liked the first book, but didn’t care for the second so never picked up the third.

Wild what happened to billionaire who brought the books to the screen:

quote:

Lin Qi was a billionaire with a dream. The video game tycoon had wanted to turn one of China’s most famous science-fiction novels, “The Three-Body Problem,” into a global hit. He had started working with Netflix and the creators of the HBO series “Game of Thrones” to bring the alien invasion saga to international audiences.

But Mr. Lin did not live to see “3 Body Problem” premiere on Netflix last month, drawing millions of viewers.

He was poisoned to death in Shanghai in 2020, at age 39, by a disgruntled colleague, in a killing that riveted the country’s tech and video-gaming circles where he had been a prominent rising star.

quote:

As Mr. Xu plotted his revenge, Caixin reported, he built a lab in an outlying district of Shanghai where he experimented with hundreds of poisons he bought off the dark web by testing them on dogs and cats and other pets. Caixin said Mr. Xu was both fascinated and inspired by the American hit TV series “Breaking Bad,” about a cancer-stricken chemistry teacher who teaches himself to make and sell methamphetamine, eventually becoming a drug lord.

Between September and December 2020, Mr. Xu began spiking beverages such as coffee, whiskey and drinking water with methylmercury chloride and bringing them into the office, Caixin reported, citing court documents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/...&smid=url-share

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp

Three Olives posted:

Do they explain why they had to cut the boat into a million pieces? It really didn't seem helpful in any way.

It was their last resort

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

They suck rear end. Prose is lovely and the author is brutally uninteresting when it comes to sociology which is like... the majority of the second and third books when it comes to how humans are responding to things or how they "evolve" based on their response to various stages of the ultimate confrontation or whatever. Its views on gender are like reading a 1960s sci-fi book which is boring as poo poo. Also the characters may as well be non-existent, they're just archetypes and while that may be fine in a more operatically or classically inclined book, that's not what those books are.

Massively overrated rear end.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

yeah, the books are pretty bad; babby's first scifi type poo poo that would feel outdated even in a 70s SF magazine

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

Rendezvous on Champs-Elysees Leave Paris in the morning with T-E-E
The first book is enjoyable as like an unfolding sci-fi mystery. I'd casually recommend it if you're already interested. Book two is okay. and book three is god awful. Cool things happen in all of them and Cixin Liu is great at describing scenes of mass catastrophe but imo it's not really worth reading the prose in the last 2 just to get to them. They are slogs.

Pcmaker
Feb 11, 2025

Three Olives posted:

Do they explain why they had to cut the boat into a million pieces? It really didn't seem helpful in any way.

They needed to get the hard drive in the boat without it getting scrubbed by the people. Having a special forces team storm the boat would guarantee the data to be deleted. The book does a much better way of explaining things compared to the series.

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

Rendezvous on Champs-Elysees Leave Paris in the morning with T-E-E
The boat scene in the netflix series was very cool. I lol'd the first time they showed the ship and there's children playing basketball on the deck.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

Pcmaker posted:

They needed to get the hard drive in the boat without it getting scrubbed by the people. Having a special forces team storm the boat would guarantee the data to be deleted. The book does a much better way of explaining things compared to the series.

My understanding is that hard drives and other electronic devices don't like to but sliced up and if the rich dude was worried about that he had plenty of time to destroy it, including putting it in the path of the thing that was slicing him up.

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel
Benedict Wong was an inspired casting choice in the Netflix series and that's about the only good thing about the whole franchise.
e:
Rosalind Chao is good too.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
E: /\ I first saw Benedict Wong in 15 stories high, a super low budget late night bbc comedy show by Sean lock. I'm really happy he's gone onto big things.


I bounced off the first book hard and wondered for ages if I just wasn't in the right space to read it, given all the hype.
I had another crack and realized that it's just not very good. The narrative and concept is solid but the actual writing is rough as gently caress.

cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Mar 19, 2025

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
I only read American Classics

Like Ready Player 1

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

here's a good contemporary sci fi series: revelation space

just read that i guess


e: i also tried reading a bunch of peter hamilton poo poo, but he's just awful; i don't think he's ever met or talked to a human woman in his life, and his dialogue certainly reflects that

Ez8
Aug 5, 2004
First book was good. The rest sucked.

Next question.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

basic rear end penchilhands questions smh

lipid
Feb 21, 2001
Cixin Liu is “we have Greg Egan at home”, right? I’m not going to read it to find out

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

I've got a 4 body problem but no one wants to help me out with it because it's not catchy enough

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Three Olives posted:

My understanding is that hard drives and other electronic devices don't like to but sliced up and if the rich dude was worried about that he had plenty of time to destroy it, including putting it in the path of the thing that was slicing him up.

The thing doing the slicing is like 1 atom wide and if it slices the drive in half they could supposedly repair it or maybe even hold the halves together. Or at least the book logic was something like that.

The slicing wire doesn't hold up as hard sci-fi because it would still produce heat from friction I'm told. Also Mass Effect taught me about quantum entanglement communication and when watching this my bf explained why that wouldn't actually work IRL either

Pcmaker posted:

I don't understand how they think they can make season 2

That's ok, they didn't think how they could make season 8 either

Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Mar 19, 2025

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'

THRILLHO lives posted:

Ya the algos been tryin to sell me that poo poo too but i said nah on principle

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Watched the series and now reading the books. Once my brain was okay remembering Chinese names it got good.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004

sounds more like a six titty solution imo 😎

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

rejoice, a knife to the heart is sort of an alien invasion/political manifesto book.

by the guy who wrote malazan and kharkanas


e: but you should prolly just read malazan first :shrug:

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

They suck rear end. Prose is lovely and the author is brutally uninteresting when it comes to sociology which is like... the majority of the second and third books when it comes to how humans are responding to things or how they "evolve" based on their response to various stages of the ultimate confrontation or whatever. Its views on gender are like reading a 1960s sci-fi book which is boring as poo poo. Also the characters may as well be non-existent, they're just archetypes and while that may be fine in a more operatically or classically inclined book, that's not what those books are.

Massively overrated rear end.

:same:

The books feel more like a collection of neat fantasy/sci-fi ideas, barely held together by very thin plot and even thinner characters. I enjoyed it for what it is, but if this hadn't been pitched as CHINESE MEGA BESTSELLERS, the books wouldn't have really registered in the west much. They are not very good.

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
i met a guy who devoted his whole life to this book series in a way i have never seen, not even for lotr or harry potter or whatever. he spent literally his whole savings on some super limited leather bound fancy edition (like five figures if i recall??), collecting them in every language and so on, and only talked about them. like it was real hard to find out anything else about him. he was a husk of a man for his monkish devotion. it was hosed

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

i met a guy who devoted his whole life to this book series in a way i have never seen, not even for lotr or harry potter or whatever. he spent literally his whole savings on some super limited leather bound fancy edition (like five figures if i recall??), collecting them in every language and so on, and only talked about them. like it was real hard to find out anything else about him. he was a husk of a man for his monkish devotion. it was hosed

Yeah, it's a yikes from me dawg

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
I always liked the premise; an unsolvable puzzle.
Actually learned about it in college physics classes before the books ever came out. People have actually tried to figure out ways to model it and solve it, but its beyond our technical/knowledge boundaries at this time.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

i met a guy who devoted his whole life to this book series in a way i have never seen, not even for lotr or harry potter or whatever. he spent literally his whole savings on some super limited leather bound fancy edition (like five figures if i recall??), collecting them in every language and so on, and only talked about them. like it was real hard to find out anything else about him. he was a husk of a man for his monkish devotion. it was hosed

If he hadn't read the books he probably would have been a Star Trek or Ster Wars fanatic with a house decorated to look like the Enterprise bridge or something. I don't think you can blame a specific franchise for this type of thing.

I guess Three Body Problem has some weird incel and misogynistic undertones that you don't find in modern western besteller sci-fi anymore, so that's something that might attract people specifically to it.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 11 days!
Popular poo poo suvks. gently caress you OP!!!

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
They are pretty good

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

I wish the aliens would come take me away to their planet

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

a mysterious cloak posted:

Watched the series and now reading the books. Once my brain was okay remembering Chinese names it got good.

I never got good at that and it was rough. Good character writing would have helped though.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

Oh man the scientist killed herself because she was wrong about math this is such deep storytelling. I sure hope the author doesn't openly support the CCP's Uighur reeducation camps or say that a Chinese democracy would be hell on earth or back the one child policy. I really need to feel good about reading wooden science fanfic.

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang

GABA ghoul posted:

If he hadn't read the books he probably would have been a Star Trek or Ster Wars fanatic with a house decorated to look like the Enterprise bridge or something. I don't think you can blame a specific franchise for this type of thing.

I guess Three Body Problem has some weird incel and misogynistic undertones that you don't find in modern western besteller sci-fi anymore, so that's something that might attract people specifically to it.

To your first point I'd say yes and no. The guy was not like a fanatic. It was like it was his bible, like a given that someone would act this way. He'd tell me about the lengths he'd gone for these books without any sort of self knowledge like "yeah, i'm a nerd" or "i just think they're great". He'd just say how he'd flown to China to get a special limited edition or something like I understood.

And that all felt unusual enough that when I learned about your second point it felt like the only explanation.

bottlesproot
Nov 5, 2012
The first book is good, it helps that the translator is good. The first half of it feels like a Greg Egan short story: scientists going on a science adventure! Everybody should stop reading here.
The second book is… not good, but also not completely awful? I think part of the blame falls on the different translator. The prose is really stilted and weird compared to the first. A quarter of the book could have been left out because nothing much memorable happens for a lot of it.
The third book is dumb and bad, imo. Weirdly regressive in a 60s sci-fi kind of way. It really seems like the author wants you to hate the protagonist for being a woman and has her gently caress everything up. There’s a lot of other stuff that feels like social commentary but it comes off as Frank Herbert levels of misogynistic and outdated. Also the science stuff crosses the line completely into space opera magic bullshit. Finishing this one was painful.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I referenced the actual three body problem recently (in the context of analyzing complexity) and some idiot thought I was talking about the book or show or whatever nerd poo poo this is.

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fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr
The first book was a miserable slog, so I didn't touch its sequels or the adaptation.

Basically these were my main issues:

GABA ghoul posted:

The books feel more like a collection of neat fantasy/sci-fi ideas, barely held together by very thin plot and even thinner characters. I enjoyed it for what it is, but if this hadn't been pitched as CHINESE MEGA BESTSELLERS, the books wouldn't have really registered in the west much. They are not very good.

Some interesting ideas, but a chore to actually read.

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