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Consensus lottery as per rookiescale.com on 3/15
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Mar 19, 2025 07:05
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I really just made this thread because I wanted to talk about Ace Bailey a little bit. His jumper is so clean. But also I worry about it because while his shot looks to be perfect in the air, his body form is weird and I worry a notorious "gently caress with a player's mechanics" 76ers team could be where he ends up and his career could be over before it starts. Also he really flies around on defense but everyone says low defensive IQ. But I like what I see so far.
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Mar 19, 2025 07:12
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I’ll feel pretty ok if the Hornets can land top three and get one of Flagg, Harper or Edgecombe. Bailey feels like a bust to me and the rest of the high lotto is kind of whatever
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Mar 19, 2025 07:27
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I’ve heard of one of those players listed above! Is this class considered strong? I know nothing about anyone but Randall Flagg the man in black.
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Mar 19, 2025 10:49
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morestuff posted:I’ll feel pretty ok if the Hornets can land top three and get one of Flagg, Harper or Edgecombe. Bailey feels like a bust to me and the rest of the high lotto is kind of whatever This is basically what I want for the Pels but with the addition of Khaman if they miss out on the top 3.
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Mar 19, 2025 13:44
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RCarr posted:I’ve heard of one of those players listed above! Is this class considered strong? I know nothing about anyone but Randall Flagg the man in black. Strong #1, above average lottery, probably above average non-lottery.
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Mar 19, 2025 13:46
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According to Vecenie, the draft guy I generally like best, the high lotto outside the top two is weak but there’s some depth down the line.
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Mar 19, 2025 13:53
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Flagg is top one, then it's 2-3 on the next tier then 4-9 all on the next tier below for player strength
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Mar 19, 2025 13:57
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I like the top-5 guys but all outside of Flagg have some questions. I really like Kasparas but he has struggled. I think he has the most to gain with a strong tournament. Bailey is such an enigma, but I like his vibe. He looks like he can get a lot stronger, especially his base, which I think can make him a lot more versatile as a scorer. I don't think Rutgers was the right spot for him, he would have benefited by going to a veteran team where he could have played within a structured offense.
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Mar 19, 2025 15:30
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Jase is a pretty weird player and I’m surprised he has risen to lottery levels after coming off the bench most of the season. I wouldn’t be surprised if he stays in school (having an NBA player dad, he is not hurting for money either). I don’t know if I would say he does anything particularly well but is the only consistent player on the MSU roster. He doesn’t have his dad’s insane athleticism or knock down shooting (yet), is shorter than him and has kind of the Harden torso. If you want to talk raw talent on the Spartan roster (though he is probably not coming out either), please enjoy this Coen Carr dunk compilation. He is one of the highest flyers I’ve ever seen. At this point his only real basketball skill is offensive rebounding though. https://youtu.be/desdVuAcywk?si=VeB8odrsyCZPHxFB
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Mar 19, 2025 15:39
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Henchman of Santa posted:has kind of the Harden torso. Gonna start using this to describe my own physique 
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Mar 19, 2025 15:50
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I feel like Rutgers being so terrible despite having 2 top 3 picks has really dampened the excitement for this draft.
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Mar 19, 2025 23:33
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morestuff posted:I’ll feel pretty ok if the Hornets can land top three and get one of Flagg, Harper or Edgecombe. Bailey feels like a bust to me and the rest of the high lotto is kind of whatever Yeah this vid points out he has an extremely low AST% and that apparently that is a common trait among a lot of busts. Pretty good breakdown of him though if someone only has 13 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRv6Uh0S8M
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Mar 20, 2025 01:03
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Isn't next year's draft supposed to be pretty stacked as well? I ask because the Blazers are not good this year yet seem to be pretty committed to stumbling into the play-in to get whacked by OKC/DEN/etc, and they also owe a lottery-protected 1st-rounder to the Bulls. Since the consensus seems to be that there's a dip in quality after the top tier of prospects, I wonder if the thinking isn't that if you don't have a decent shot at a top-4 guy, this might not be the worst year to bite the bullet and get out from under that commitment, especially if (like Portland) you are not particularly competitive and there are multiple paths to poo poo going sideways next year, vs this year when some things came together and you were not Charlotte-level bad. I'm not seeing much to indicate that a #11ish pick is all that much better this year than any other. E: this is confusing, not gonna rewrite but to be clear I understand that Portland keeps their pick if it's in the lottery, I was more referring to having control of your assets if you try to package expiring $ in some deal etc. rivetz fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Mar 20, 2025 |
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Mar 20, 2025 01:08
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the next draft is supposed to have more superstar-likely talent. i think the depth remains to be seen, though.
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Mar 20, 2025 02:15
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It is hard for me to imagine Kanrnisovas being able to pass on a Lithuanian kid who plays for Illinois, that's like 2 of his three criteria (the other one is can't shoot).
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Mar 20, 2025 04:46
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rivetz posted:Isn't next year's draft supposed to be pretty stacked as well?
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Mar 20, 2025 07:58
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I hope the Sixers continue to tank and are able to keep their pick
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Mar 22, 2025 05:47
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I think Kylan Boswell really solidified himself as mid-range second round pick this tournament if he chooses to enter the draft. Modern Derek Fisher.
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Mar 24, 2025 08:11
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The Ringer has a Big Board that’s only 14 players? https://nbadraft.theringer.com/
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Mar 25, 2025 22:24
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morestuff posted:According to Vecenie, the draft guy I generally like best, the high lotto outside the top two is weak but there’s some depth down the line. I think he said something to the effect of no one agreeing on who's better between 4 and 20. Forget the exact number but something to that effect And i will write this to get it out of my head derik queen, perchance to dream, You used my head like an exploder -song derik queen by t rex Also derik is how a baby would spell the name derek
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Mar 25, 2025 22:49
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Dejan Bimble posted:I think he said something to the effect of no one agreeing on who's better between 4 and 20. Forget the exact number but something to that effect The score's the same The ref's to blame He shot the ball like a revolver The score's the same Not alright A walk is what you want Traveling call-er, take it away Give me your turnover
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Mar 26, 2025 01:34
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RC and Moon Pie posted:The score's the same 
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Mar 26, 2025 07:30
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Carter Bryant moving up people's boards is nice. I'm honestly too close to the whole thing at the moment but he does seem like one of the better defensive wings in the draft (are we calling Flagg a wing?).
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Mar 27, 2025 08:08
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I’m just calling cooper a forward
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Mar 27, 2025 13:35
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Cooper is the singularity
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Mar 27, 2025 14:03
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Mar 27, 2025 14:12
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the reporter & pels fan discord i'm in has an unofficial big board that looks something like: cooper harper edgecombe/bailey/maluach tre johnson/knueppel/jakucionis/queen much later in the draft, they are also excited bout tomislav
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Mar 27, 2025 15:54
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Where is my boy Walter Clayton Jr going to go?
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Mar 27, 2025 16:52
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BossTweed posted:Where is my boy Walter Clayton Jr going to go? If he goes into the combine and shoots lights out he could move up maybe but right now he's a late second or UDFA. He'll be on someone's Summer League team for sure.
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Mar 28, 2025 01:54
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Flagg isn't just a number one pick. He is rare. He is maybe a top 5 prospect in the last 20 years
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Mar 28, 2025 14:08
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I wouldn’t go that far but hes a beast for sure
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Mar 28, 2025 15:41
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Dejan Bimble posted:Flagg isn't just a number one pick. He is rare. He is maybe a top 5 prospect in the last 20 years Wemby Zion (as prospect) KAT Davis Irving Rose Not saying Flagg is a bum but those are off the top of my head and not touching anyone who didn’t go one like Durant.
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Mar 28, 2025 17:01
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C. Everett Koop posted:Wemby I'd put both Oden and Durant up there as mega-prospects that just happened to come out the same year if we're looking at just hype and how they were viewed at the time without hindsight.
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Mar 28, 2025 17:11
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C. Everett Koop posted:Wemby I was going through a similar list and I would say Flagg is in a tier just below Wemby. You could sell me on Zion, Flagg's age, production, and the Olympic mythology puts him really high up the board on best prospects since LeBron.
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Mar 28, 2025 17:13
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I don't remember Rose or Kyrie getting nearly as much hype from preseason all the way through the tournament (Kyrie got hurt like 11 games in though). KAT was someone whose stock rose over time too. IIRC the presumptive top pick going into that season was Jahlil Okafor lol.
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Mar 28, 2025 17:25
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there was an actual Rose vs. Supercool Beas debate, but I think the city of Chicago was 100% locked in on Rose.
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Mar 28, 2025 17:58
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Flagg's perception as a top pick certainly feels stronger. I feel like it's been three or four solid years I have known about this guy, in a way where he didn't also flame out in the medium term. Off the top of my head, Wemby is the only one who carried that same aura and managed to keep it. The guys I can name that had similar hype ended up losing the hype. Ricky Rubio being one that sticks out.
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Mar 28, 2025 18:32
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I tend to look at the top of drafts having 3 tiers: Destined for Greatness - Players who, barring injury, are expected to be, at a minimum, multiple time all stars. A lot of drafts don't have these guys, but when they do, teams would never trade the top pick. These are guys like LeBron, Zion, Wemby, etc. Consensus top pick - Players who could be good but, barring injury, are expected to at least be 10 year starters and if they pan out could be all stars. Cade is a good example, and Flagg feels right here. There is usually one of these in any given draft, occasionally a couple. Guys who shouldn't be top picks but because the draft didn't have any guys from the top two tiers, analysts talk themselves into someone being a tier 2 player when they are really tier 3
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