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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Is there a strong shooter the Raps should be looking at?

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Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Is there a strong shooter the Raps should be looking at?

Kon Kneuppel (Nipple) is really good and can do more than shoot. He might be gone by 7.

Tre Johnson and Jeremiah Fears can both get buckets. I like Fears more.

Not a whole lot of other shooting. Bailey is... Inconsistent. Edgecombe improved.

Kasparas should be able to shoot, but really struggled down the stretch. He was taking a lot of difficult shots, in part because he struggles to get separation. I like him overall though.

Raps seem like an Edgecombe team.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
I’m scared of Edgecombe’s shot being a fluke. But I hope it’s not.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Raps need someone who can create their own shot when the team is forced into iso. They don't have enough of that.

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

Rick posted:

I’m scared of Edgecombe’s shot being a fluke. But I hope it’s not.

I think his form is okay. The bigger issue is he doesn't have a handle, so projects more as a high level role player unless he can develop that. I think shooting is much more fixable.

His size is a little up in the air, someone said he was 6'3. When I saw him live he looked bigger.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

Mean Baby posted:

I think his form is okay. The bigger issue is he doesn't have a handle, so projects more as a high level role player unless he can develop that. I think shooting is much more fixable.

His size is a little up in the air, someone said he was 6'3. When I saw him live he looked bigger.

He was listed at 6'5 so maybe 6'4 is the truth.

The archetype of explosive athlete who cant really dribble but probably needs the ball in his hands is always scary.

If it works you get westbrook, if it works but takes a while you get lavine, if not you get a boulevard of broken dreams, josh jackson avenue, etc

It's like he worked on the stuff that pops and will get him drafted while leaving the rest of his development for another day. If he works it's going to take a while, so he's more of a start than end of a rebuild prospect

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

I think his ideal is maybe a supercharged Josh Hart.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Raps need someone who can create their own shot when the team is forced into iso. They don't have enough of that.

VJ is not the guy for that. He can capitalize on other people creating an opening but doesn’t really do it himself in the half court.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Then do not draft that guy.

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Raps need someone who can create their own shot when the team is forced into iso. They don't have enough of that.

Realistically I think that is Fears, a lot of people like Tre but I am less sure. Fears is super raw and will probably look like a bust year 1

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Mean Baby posted:

Realistically I think that is Fears, a lot of people like Tre but I am less sure. Fears is super raw and will probably look like a bust year 1

iirc, Fears is great at getting separation to create a shot. But stinks at actually finishing around the rim.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop
Fat moron musk's trash truck nearly killed the number 4 prospect in next year's draft

https://x.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1915483700806209783

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-903C82F8-8F52-450C-82A8-B9B4B34CD54E.html

I don't want to post a video of the crash cause it's not 100% confirmed, but it was a very light impact if the video going around is the right one.

heyy so you might be breathing toxic plastic and lithium smoke but you're gonna want to not open the door normally as it's unpowered and that won't work. So you're going to want to lift the mat out of the bottom of the door storage cubby and pull a hidden release cable before you inhale enough smoke to necessitate an artificial coma so that doctors and nurses can manually scrub the poison out of your lungs

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 24, 2025

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Man that’s loving awful.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Dejan Bimble posted:

Fat moron musk's trash truck nearly killed the number 4 prospect in next year's draft

https://x.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1915483700806209783

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-903C82F8-8F52-450C-82A8-B9B4B34CD54E.html

I don't want to post a video of the crash cause it's not 100% confirmed, but it was a very light impact if the video going around is the right one.

heyy so you might be breathing toxic plastic and lithium smoke but you're gonna want to not open the door normally as it's unpowered and that won't work. So you're going to want to lift the mat out of the bottom of the door storage cubby and pull a hidden release cable before you inhale enough smoke to necessitate an artificial coma so that doctors and nurses can manually scrub the poison out of your lungs

Car looked pretty hosed up in the photos I saw for a light impact but the car is a death trap either way

DefensiveLockout
Feb 18, 2022
Mock Season has arrived!
[Hand of] Sam Vecenie:

quote:

• Draft order is based on a quick simulation of the lottery now that the standings are finalized. That resulted in Washington getting the top pick, Utah dropping to No. 2, Portland soaring seven spots to end up at No. 3 and New Orleans falling to No. 4. Philadelphia kept its pick at No. 6.

1. Washington Wizards
Cooper Flagg | 6-9 forward | 18 years old | Duke
2. Utah Jazz
Dylan Harper | 6-6 guard | 19 years old | Rutgers
3. Portland Trail Blazers
Tre Johnson | 6-6 wing | 19 years old | Texas
4. New Orleans Pelicans
V.J. Edgecombe | 6-3 guard | 19 years old | Baylor
5. Charlotte Hornets
Ace Bailey | 6-10 wing/forward | 18 years old | Rutgers
6. Philadelphia 76ers
Kon Knueppel | 6-7 guard | 19 years old | Duke
7. Brooklyn Nets
Kasparas Jakučionis | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Illinois
8. Toronto Raptors
Derik Queen | 6-10 big | 20 years old |Maryland
9. San Antonio Spurs
Carter Bryant | 6-8 wing | 19 years old | Arizona
10. Houston Rockets (via PHX)
Collin Murray-Boyles | 6-8 wing/forward | 20 years old | South Carolina
11. Dallas Mavericks
Jeremiah Fears | 6-4 guard | 18 years old | Oklahoma
12. Chicago Bulls
Khaman Maluach | 7-2 big | 19 years old | Duke
13. Atlanta Hawks (via SAC)
Thomas Sorber | 6-10 big | 19 years old | Georgetown
14. San Antonio Spurs (via ATL)
Noa Essengue | 6-9 forward | 18 years old | Ratiopharm Ulm
15. Oklahoma City Thunder (via MIA)
Danny Wolf | 7-0 big | 21 years old | Michigan
16. Orlando Magic
Nolan Traoré | 6-3 guard | 19 years old | Saint-Quentin
17. Minnesota Timberwolves (via DET)
Nique Clifford | 6-6 guard | 23 years old | Colorado State
18. Washington Wizards (via MEM)
Egor Demin | 6-9 guard | 19 years old | BYU
19. Brooklyn Nets (via MIL)
Jase Richardson | 6-3 guard | 19 years old | Michigan State
20. Miami Heat (via GSW)
Walter Clayton Jr. | 6-3 guard | 22 years old | Florida
21. Utah Jazz (via MIN)
Liam McNeeley | 6-7 wing | 19 years old | Connecticut
22. Atlanta Hawks (via LAL)
Ben Saraf | 6-6 guard | 19 years old | Ratiopharm Ulm
23. Indiana Pacers
Joan Beringer | 6-10 big | 19 years old | Cedevita
24. Oklahoma City Thunder (via LAC)
Noah Penda | 6-8 forward | 20 years old | Le Mans
25. Orlando Magic (via DEN)
Hugo González | 6-6 wing/forward | 19 years old | Real Madrid
26. Brooklyn Nets (via NYK)
Asa Newell | 6-11 forward/big | 19 years old | Georgia
27. Brooklyn Nets (via HOU)
Rasheer Fleming | 6-9 forward | 20 years old | Saint Joseph’s
28. Boston Celtics
Labaron Philon | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | Alabama
29. Phoenix Suns (via CLE)
Cedric Coward | 6-6 wing | 21 years old | Washington State
30. LA Clippers (via OKC)
Ryan Kalkbrenner | 7-1 big | 23 years old | Creighton

Second round
31. Minnesota Timberwolves (via UTA): Will Riley | 6-7 wing | 19 years old | Illinois
32. Boston Celtics (via Washington): Tahaad Pettiford | 6-0 guard | 19 years old | Auburn
33. Charlotte Hornets: Yaxel Lendeborg | 6-8 forward | 22 years old | UAB
34. Charlotte Hornets (via NOP): Kam Jones | 6-5 wing | 22 years old | Marquette
35. Philadelphia 76ers: Johni Broome | 6-10 big | 22 years old| Auburn
36. Brooklyn Nets: Drake Powell | 6-6 wing | 19 years old | North Carolina
37. Detroit Pistons (via Toronto): Tyrese Proctor | 6-6 guard | 21 years old | Duke
38. San Antonio Spurs: Adou Thiero | 6-8 wing | 21 years old | Arkansas
39. Toronto Raptors (via Portland): Darrion Williams | 6-6 wing | 22 years old | Texas Tech
40. Washington Wizards (via Phoenix): Milos Uzan | 6-4 guard | 22 years old | Houston
41. Golden State Warriors (via Miami): John Tonje | 6-5 wing | 23 years old | Wisconsin
42. Sacramento Kings (via Chicago): Maxime Raynaud | 7-0 center | 22 years old | Stanford
43. Utah Jazz (via Dallas): Alex Toohey | 6-7 wing/forward | 21 years old | Sydney Kings
44. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Atlanta): Bogoljub Markovic | 6-11 forward | 19 years old | Mega
45. Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento): Rocco Zikarsky | 7-3 big | 19 years old | Brisbane Bullets
46. Orlando Magic: Micah Peavy | 6-7 wing | 23 years old | Georgetown
47. Milwaukee Bucks (via Detroit): Sion James | 6-5 guard | 23 years old | Duke
48. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Milwaukee): Dink Pate | 6-7 guard | 19 years old | Mexico City Capitanes
49. New York Knicks (via Memphis): Chaz Lanier | 6-5 wing | 24 years old | Tennessee
50. Memphis Grizzlies (via Golden State): Hansen Yang | 7-1 center | 20 years old | Qingdao
51. LA Clippers (via Minnesota): Mouhamed Faye | 6-11 big | 20 years old | Reggio Emilia
52. Utah Jazz (via LA Clippers): Max Shulga | 6-5 guard | 23 years old | VCU
53. Phoenix Suns (via Denver): Alijah Martin | 6-2 guard | 23 years old | Florida
54. Indiana Pacers: Koby Brea | 6-7 wing | 23 years old | Kentucky
55. Los Angeles Lakers: Izan Almansa | 6-10 forward | 20 years old | Perth Wildcats
56. Memphis Grizzlies (via Houston): Hunter Sallis | 6-5 guard | 22 years old | Wake Forest
57. Orlando Magic (via Boston): Ryan Nembhard | 6-0 guard | 22 years old | Gonzaga
58. Cleveland Cavaliers: Vladislav Goldin | 7-1 center | 22 years old | Michigan
59. Houston Rockets (via Oklahoma City): Amari Williams | 6-11 big | 23 years old | Kentucky

(Note: The New York Knicks have forfeited their 2025 second-round pick because of free-agency shenanigans.)

The ringer's (intentionally, the pricks) dogshit for mobile/copying, but also is out.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
I realize height isn't everything but if Edgecombe is really only 6'3" that seems not great. He's listed as 6'5" elsewhere so I dunno

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


This is the first mock I've seen that has Malauch falling all the way to the bulls, I guess that game where he grabbed zero rebounds was rough.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Hmmm. Queen sounds good on paper. I find it interesting he went from Ben Wallace bad at FT's to 87.5%

Static Rook
Dec 1, 2000

Face reality head on.
Never stop livin'.

I like that mock solely because the Cavs end up with Dink Pate.

Dink Pate.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

R.D. Mangles posted:

This is the first mock I've seen that has Malauch falling all the way to the bulls, I guess that game where he grabbed zero rebounds was rough.

Is Malauch still at risk of being deported

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Carter Bryant top 10 hell yeah.

Izan Almansa...drat the Ignite really hosed him if he ends up falling to 55.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Is Malauch still at risk of being deported

I imagine getting a work visa is a different process and professional sports teams can make it happen more easily.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Henchman of Santa posted:

I imagine getting a work visa is a different process and professional sports teams can make it happen more easily.

If K can't get a person smuggled across a border these days what good is he?

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop
God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

continuing the art critique dogpile reversal of fortune award

lets give pop a nice retirement gift: first pick cooper flagg

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Dejan Bimble posted:

God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

Is he the highest projected American Jewish prospect since Danny Schayes?

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

Dejan Bimble posted:

God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

Every generation needs its Austin Daye.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Dejan Bimble posted:

God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

Feels like there are a lot of mystery boxes after the first ten or so which is never fun.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Henchman of Santa posted:

Is he the highest projected American Jewish prospect since Danny Schayes?

There was an Orthodox guy like a decade or so back who wouldn't play on the Sabbath, which probably would have been an issue had he made it anywhere.

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

Dejan Bimble posted:

God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

I'm a little skeptical he will go that high. He has a lot of fans who constantly hype him up.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Rick posted:

Feels like there are a lot of mystery boxes after the first ten or so which is never fun.

This feels like one of those drafts where we're gonna look back in a decade and wonder how more stars came out of the back half than the front.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

C. Everett Koop posted:

There was an Orthodox guy like a decade or so back who wouldn't play on the Sabbath, which probably would have been an issue had he made it anywhere.

Tamir Goodman?

I remember a Sports Illustrated story from waaay back in the day. Maryland had interest, but refused to work with how Orthodox he was, so he played at Towson. Turns out the super-skinny dude probably wasn't playing the best competition and he didn't pan out at all. Not shockingly, he had a long career in Israel.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Was Amar'e a Jewish prospect or did he convert later?

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


we talkin' jewish ballers

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

pseudodragon posted:

Was Amar'e a Jewish prospect or did he convert later?

Much later, might have been out of the NBA by then even.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


it was when he was playing in israel

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

Mean Baby posted:

I'm a little skeptical he will go that high. He has a lot of fans who constantly hype him up.

https://x.com/bjpf_/status/1919234900068082031

Here's a graph showing how kinda sneaky skilled he is

Like guard skills on a big. But he's just as athletic as your average white american college center.

NBA draft.net gave him the BRUTAL Henry Ellenson comp. Henry Ellenson was an amazing stan van gundy pick, an 8th overall "stretch 4" who shot like 27% from three in college.

Wolf at least shoots like 33%, but still if my guard skills big can't shoot, he's kinda early career mo wagner, rather than learned to shoot threes mo wagner.

I dunno

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
between 15-20 is probably where he "fits", talent-wise, in this draft.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Here is me ranking the funniest outcomes for the Lottery

Activly unfunny
14. Philidelphia 76ers
13. Dallas
12. Chicago

Banal
11. Portland
10. Toronto
9. Utah
8. Washington
7. Charlotte
6. New Orleans
5. Brooklyn

Hilarious
4. Sacramento
3. San Antonio (their own Pick)

The Funniest Possible things that could ever happen
2. San Antonio (Via Atlanta)
1. Houston Via Phoenix

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Forrest on Fire
Nov 23, 2012

Paul Zuvella posted:

Here is me ranking the funniest outcomes for the Lottery

Activly unfunny
14. Philidelphia 76ers
13. Dallas
12. Chicago

Banal
11. Portland
10. Toronto
9. Utah
8. Washington
7. Charlotte
6. New Orleans
5. Brooklyn

Hilarious
4. Sacramento
3. San Antonio (their own Pick)

The Funniest Possible things that could ever happen
2. San Antonio (Via Atlanta)
1. Houston Via Phoenix

Dallas would be funny because Nico would trade the 1OA to the Suns for Durant or something equally stupid instead of just taking the pity generational prospect

Utah would be a transparent attempt to reward SLC with a superstar their fans can really get behind

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