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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

morestuff posted:

I’ll feel pretty ok if the Hornets can land top three and get one of Flagg, Harper or Edgecombe. Bailey feels like a bust to me and the rest of the high lotto is kind of whatever

This is basically what I want for the Pels but with the addition of Khaman if they miss out on the top 3.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

RCarr posted:

I’ve heard of one of those players listed above! Is this class considered strong? I know nothing about anyone but Randall Flagg the man in black.

Strong #1, above average lottery, probably above average non-lottery.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
the next draft is supposed to have more superstar-likely talent. i think the depth remains to be seen, though.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
I’m just calling cooper a forward

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
the reporter & pels fan discord i'm in has an unofficial big board that looks something like:

cooper





harper


edgecombe/bailey/maluach

tre johnson/knueppel/jakucionis/queen


much later in the draft, they are also excited bout tomislav

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Dejan Bimble posted:

Hey dr coop

You're conflating recruit rankings with prospect rankings. Not the same thing.

Is there a difference before they play a single game after high school? I honestly don’t know. I don’t think there are product ranks publicly available before the college season starts.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I see a lot of mocks having Toronto going after Maluach and I get why but I think I'd prefer to avoid someone who is raw, I think we need someone who is able to contribute immediately.

if you want a rookie to contribute immediately, you better you hope you have the #1 pick in any given draft. and even they aren't better contributors than random veteran minimums some of the time.

#1 picks can contribute immediately most of the time. #2 and #3 maybe half the time? you are lucky if anyone drafted #4 or later contributes by march of their rookie year.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Fair enough: based on what I've read about Mauluach, he's still fairly new to basketball and those types of players are mixed bags at best. I'd prefer Toronto pursue someone who can shoot, also.

For what it's worth, Maluach has been one of the best defensive switch bigs in recent college memory. He also has shown a reliable set shot going back to high school. He has at least average hands and finishes well out of the pick & roll.

The reasons he isn't a top flight pick is because his rebounding leaves much to be desired (and he doesn't appear to make up for it with box outs or grabbing contested rebounds) and he hasn't show many on-ball skills. I don't think him being relatively new to the sport is a reason not to grab him. He should become playable at about the same time as everyone else projected around his draft spot.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Raps need someone who can create their own shot when the team is forced into iso. They don't have enough of that.

VJ is not the guy for that. He can capitalize on other people creating an opening but doesn’t really do it himself in the half court.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Mean Baby posted:

Realistically I think that is Fears, a lot of people like Tre but I am less sure. Fears is super raw and will probably look like a bust year 1

iirc, Fears is great at getting separation to create a shot. But stinks at actually finishing around the rim.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
between 15-20 is probably where he "fits", talent-wise, in this draft.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
obviously not the be-all/end-all, but some interesting data points on various prospects:

https://x.com/mcfdraft/status/1916951248986657240

https://x.com/mcfdraft/status/1916972070325420447

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
a companion chart for the bigs:

https://x.com/mcfdraft/status/1918053478452146532

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

The Flagg one is impressive because defenses put a lot of energy into keeping him away from the rim.

Harper, too, though they probably didn’t focus on that with him to quite the same extent.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Dejan Bimble posted:

Poor Jase. That's second round pick height

Ron Harper is an awkward spot. At 6'6, pick him second, gently caress it, he's good now. at 6'4 you're in devin booker territory where he's pg sized but not a pg


so you either let him learn or you try to work around it and hope he's so good it donnae matter

I thought Bailey might measure a bit short. Kind of puts the kibosh on some of the dreams about him. But he has long arms so that helps

dylan harper is a clear #2 pick in this draft, no matter what. he plays much bigger than his listed height.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

morestuff posted:

Do the Sixers need more guards? Don't know why they'd take Edgecombe when they have Maxey, McCain and can retain Grimes if they want. If they don't want to gamble on Bailey then I think you get what value you can for the pick, the drop from Edgecombe to picks 4-10 doesn't seem that huge

There isn’t much difference at all between 3-10, imo.

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