Lazy NBA Prospect/Draft Thread Since Everyone Else Refuses to Make One

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Consensus lottery as per rookiescale.com on 3/15

Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
Ace Bailey
VJ Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Kasparas Jakucionis(sp)
Kon Kneuppel
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Jeremiah Fears
Liam McNeely
Collin Murray-Boyles
Asa Newell
Nolan Traore
Jase Richardson

# ¿ Mar 19, 2025 07:04

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# ¿ May 20, 2025 11:40

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Placeholder for an effort post by someone (probably not me)

# ¿ Mar 19, 2025 07:05

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I really just made this thread because I wanted to talk about Ace Bailey a little bit. His jumper is so clean. But also I worry about it because while his shot looks to be perfect in the air, his body form is weird and I worry a notorious "gently caress with a player's mechanics" 76ers team could be where he ends up and his career could be over before it starts.

Also he really flies around on defense but everyone says low defensive IQ. But I like what I see so far.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2025 07:12

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

morestuff posted:

I�ll feel pretty ok if the Hornets can land top three and get one of Flagg, Harper or Edgecombe. Bailey feels like a bust to me and the rest of the high lotto is kind of whatever

Yeah this vid points out he has an extremely low AST% and that apparently that is a common trait among a lot of busts. Pretty good breakdown of him though if someone only has 13 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRv6Uh0S8M

# ¿ Mar 20, 2025 01:03

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I think Kylan Boswell really solidified himself as mid-range second round pick this tournament if he chooses to enter the draft. Modern Derek Fisher.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2025 08:11

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Carter Bryant moving up people's boards is nice. I'm honestly too close to the whole thing at the moment but he does seem like one of the better defensive wings in the draft (are we calling Flagg a wing?).

# ¿ Mar 27, 2025 08:08

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

BossTweed posted:

Where is my boy Walter Clayton Jr going to go?

If he goes into the combine and shoots lights out he could move up maybe but right now he's a late second or UDFA. He'll be on someone's Summer League team for sure.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2025 01:54

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Give it up to Duke�s coaching staff because in the past Coach K would have just made him keep posting up and he would have been decent but there would have been more doubts. Actually letting him create with the ball in his hands in the post and him excelling at it really shows how special he can be.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2025 18:47

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Still wild to me that Dybantsa is going to play with the Nabisco heir in Provo.

Also USC should be forcibly dissolved. Look how far Collier and Bronny have come in the NBA when they had negative progression in college.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2025 01:18

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Khaman Maluach had a terrible game in the Final Four. Kind of have to wonder with the fact that no one knows if he is even able to stay in the US might have had some contributing factor.

I think he kind of remains a fairly raw prospect that could flame out pretty hard but we saw his ability as an extremely effective lob finisher.

Sharp and Calyton were the guys who helped themselves the most this tournament but had each had a nightmare finish. It's a smaller problem for Sharp because it's pretty unlikely his role is ever big enough in the NBA to even get a chance to flame out like that unless he has more Marcus Smart/Dillon Brooks in him than we've seen so far in college. Clayton, with the worry being that he can't do his thing against NBA defense, tonight was the closest we saw to that and it was ugly. I don't know though, dude has a lot of heart and I can still see him figuring out a way to make it work in the league.

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That's all good and everything and I wanted to get that out of my system but you should never let tournament games over influence your opinion (or maybe influence at all) remains the standard operating procedure.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2025 05:38

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I go back and forth on Knecht. Like there's been multiple games this year where he's shown an ability to go on an intense heater in a way that makes it look like he's a class above your Seth Currry style guy who can gun occasionally and not much else. But he has long stretches where he does absolutely nothing offensively when he can get on the court at all. Some of this just might be he is not getting enough reliable minutes to get into the rhythm of the game (the one thing all his heaters had in common is that the Lakers were pretty much forced to play him). Or maybe he is just bad and the good games are flukes, because he is legit awful defensively and it's often hard to argue with him being pulled. It really could be both to me.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2025 05:38

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Probably Magic posted:

Didn't see the championship game, but still think Clayton is nuts. I don't know, though, I don't have the pro-eye.

For him it's almost strictly a size issue. If he had a longer wingspan and was three inches taller, well, he would have went to the league two years ago probably.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2025 05:41

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I need to see more, but I can see why the scouts are interested pretty fast, The way he adjusts on defense is pretty crazy, and the way he's positioning himself for rebounds is nice, you can't really teach that.

But yeah, none of what you're saying about him is wrong and he seems so lost on the offensive end. Funniest part is his team is playing 4 on 6 on offense because he's so bad at setting screens that he's face up to the guy on his team with the ball, blocking their driving lane.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2025 20:47

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I�m scared of Edgecombe�s shot being a fluke. But I hope it�s not.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 19:43

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Man that�s loving awful.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2025 20:52

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Carter Bryant top 10 hell yeah.

Izan Almansa...drat the Ignite really hosed him if he ends up falling to 55.

# ¿ May 2, 2025 01:28

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Dejan Bimble posted:

God the whole draft outside of the top few guys is rough. Danny Wolf at 15? He's 6'11 and has "guard skills" but if you play him at center he's gonna be rough on defense. He's like a giant slow small forward

I suppose that's a niche that needs filling sometimes. But he's the definition of a role player at this point

Feels like there are a lot of mystery boxes after the first ten or so which is never fun.

# ¿ May 4, 2025 00:52

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

The Flagg one is impressive because defenses put a lot of energy into keeping him away from the rim.

# ¿ May 5, 2025 16:14

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Maluch is all about where he lands. I could see some teams just using him as a lob threat and not developing much else.

# ¿ May 7, 2025 06:42

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Caleb Love killing it in the G league combine.

# ¿ May 12, 2025 19:06

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Bismack Billabongo posted:

Just be happy for our wellmeaning mavs fans who were almost out and just got sucked back in lol

Lol I was thinking the same thing. Those poor people were almost free.

# ¿ May 13, 2025 01:33

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Crazy Ted posted:

Cooper's only 18 so it would be funny for him to say "oh gently caress THAT" and go back to Duke for another season and a buncha NIL money.

Dodging the Wizards, no, don't risk it twice, the Mavs aren't THAT much of a tire fire.

# ¿ May 13, 2025 02:30

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Henchman of Santa posted:

There's a deadline to come back which I don't think has been hit yet. They can't draft him Larry Bird style anymore, he has to be available.

Yeah you're even allowed to hire an agent now.

Also Dejan you called it the day of the trade, don't sell yourself short!

# ¿ May 13, 2025 03:08

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Flagg being a little bit bigger is probably nice.

# ¿ May 13, 2025 16:05

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Dejan Bimble posted:

they seem to be. Like forrest said the NBL exists, and is basically the only pro league that will develop prospects.

Big teams in europe have learned by now that it's a waste to put everything in guys who are just going to the NBA and never coming back. So they won't get the playing time they could get in the ncaa.

Wemby is a unique situation, where it was obvious he was special from a young age and his parents and agent built a special developmental pathway, including a pro team that was basically made to teach him basketball first and everything else third

I think now that the trend seems to be Europeans that play college rise from their projections whereas Euroleague fall, and the NIL is so good, top prospects will probably continue to come over.

Well, bigs and wings. Seems to be a dead end for MOST guards.

# ¿ May 13, 2025 20:11

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Also, while I am surprised to say this as I definitely would not have 10 years ago, players are more ready for the NBA if they go to a school like Michigan, Michigan State, Arizona, San Diego State, UCON, etc, where there's a focus on player development. Probably the best spot to be other than a G league team managed by an NBA team (that cares) for development, definitely better than any other pro league.

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Probably going to be a lot of sellers in this year's first round outside of the lottery so it might be a good idea to pay attention even if your team doesn't have a pick.

Rick fucked around with this message at 04:27 on May 14, 2025

# ¿ May 14, 2025 04:24

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

They should draft Carter Bryant at 2.

# ¿ May 14, 2025 23:45

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Eratik posted:

I�d eat at any of these fake Irish pubs but I wouldn�t have huge expectations.

# ¿ May 15, 2025 02:24

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I am too biased towards him to be fair but there are not many I like more in this draft that I have seen so far.

# ¿ May 16, 2025 05:13

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I feel like young cheap talent are what the Sixers need although maybe Utah or Charlotte will swap with them and include an established player.

# ¿ May 17, 2025 17:27

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# ¿ May 20, 2025 11:40

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Yeah that is a good summary.

# ¿ May 19, 2025 18:13

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