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docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

great, there's two of them
I mostly object to the idea that the Doctor has been a romantic figure for decades because OH GOD THE TV MOVIE WAS HOW LONG AGO?

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egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



They did it to themselves by casting Paul McGann

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

I may as well try to reassemble a dandelion.

Open Source Idiom posted:

This conversation is making the thread very unchill.

I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone or being mad or anything, it's okay to disagree.

I do think that the Doctor being a thousand year old space wizard means that none of the romances really work, but since the can of worms was already open, it's probably best that there are some same-sex versions of "The Girl in the Fireplace." I don't think Rogue was particularly more clumsy than the Rose romance or whatever they were trying to do with Yaz in that last episode.

The Yaz thing in particular fell flat for me because the whole Sarah Jane "You'll get old and die eventually and I don't want to be there for it" is among the worst ways to address it. The character hasn't grown enough that they can spend 60-ish years with someone because the companion is not going to be able to run down corridors forever? They're really incapable of dealing with grief at this point? "There's no point in being grown up if you can't act a little childish sometimes," sure, but even the non-romantic friendship between Twelve and Clara should have taught the Doctor that it's okay to commit to spending time with someone even if the way you spend time with them is going to change and may involve him having to take care of them a little. I dunno.

Slyphic
Oct 12, 2021

All we do is walk around believing birds!
I just want more companions that aren't 1) young 2) contemporary 3) British 4) women - doesn't have to be a full sweep, just please let's stop hitting all four points. I had such expectations for 'the fam'... Like can we get 15 and Percule Hoirot or something (he's still not Public Domain in the UK, ugh, rare point for America here)

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

I may as well try to reassemble a dandelion.

Slyphic posted:

I just want more companions that aren't 1) young 2) contemporary 3) British 4) women - doesn't have to be a full sweep, just please let's stop hitting all four points. I had such expectations for 'the fam'... Like can we get 15 and Percule Hoirot or something (he's still not Public Domain in the UK, ugh, rare point for America here)

Yeah, it'd be cool. Leela, Jamie and K-9 were all really fun and even the sort of throwaway ones like Nardole add something to the dynamic.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Slyphic posted:

I just want more companions that aren't 1) young 2) contemporary 3) British 4) women - doesn't have to be a full sweep, just please let's stop hitting all four points. I had such expectations for 'the fam'... Like can we get 15 and Percule Hoirot or something (he's still not Public Domain in the UK, ugh, rare point for America here)

The weirdest thing is that companions that met all four criteria were actually fairly rare in the classic series. Technically it was just Dodo, Polly, and Ace. Though Liz, Jo, Sarah Jane, and Mel were from near enough in the future that it didn’t make much difference most of the time.

Edit: Liz was still pretty different from modern companions, though, because she was an exceptional scientific genius instead of being presented as an “ordinary person”.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 17, 2025

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010


Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

Silver2195 posted:

The weirdest thing is that companions that met all four criteria were actually fairly rare in the classic series. Technically it was just Dodo, Polly, and Ace. Though Liz, Jo, Sarah Jane, and Mel were from near enough in the future that it didn’t make much difference most of the time.

Edit: Liz was still pretty different from modern companions, though, because she was an exceptional scientific genius instead of being presented as an “ordinary person”.

Flag on the play, trying to start a Unit timing derail right after the last derail.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪
We need more companions like Tegan and though it's only been one episode I have high hopes for Belinda in that regard. :hmmyes:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

egon_beeblebrox posted:

They did it to themselves by casting Paul McGann

Yuuuup. Paul McGann is objectively one of the most attractive human beings in the world

And that's not even getting into that voice

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McGann
May 19, 2003

Get up you son of a bitch! 'Cause Mickey loves you!

Barry Foster posted:

Yuuuup. Paul McGann is objectively one of the most attractive human beings in the world

And that's not even getting into that voice

And the fact he's aging better than anyone could hope.

Funny that I made my username based off a character in Starlancer before I knew he'd be my Doctor (or even knew of Who)

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