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# ¿ May 22, 2025 13:44 |
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Also Doctor Who owns now and forevermore and it will NEVER stop being on television (for good!) ![]() Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Mar 26, 2025 |
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Crazy to think we've had 20 seasons of New Who since 2005!![]()
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Vinylshadow posted:The Round Things™ are filled with alcohol 12: I may have snuck a glass at some point in the last 1500 years. ![]()
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The_Doctor posted:Thanks, Rusty! Lol Rusty's gone mad with power ![]()
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Love Father's Day so much, the Doctor showing up alive at the end with no idea HOW he's alive but quite chuffed nonetheless is the best. Plus, of course, this: ![]() The way the Doctor turns to other Rose for just a brief "what the gently caress did you have going to do?" moment before they disappear from existence is beautiful ![]()
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Rewatched The Faceless Ones and had forgotten (and love) that the Doctor was completely loving clueless on what the gently caress a "pass port" is. "Some bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo..." indeed ![]() At least Ben and Polly had stronger reasons than most companions to leave, figuring out that they were back on the exact same day they left (so London was assaulted by War Machines within like the last week or so? ![]()
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Zaroff posted:And The Faceless Ones leads straight into The Evil of the Daleks, where we find Daleks are in London 1966. I love that, the idea was obviously to try and make the titular War Machines seem like a big deal but it all wraps around to "gently caress, there were Daleks about. Goddammit" and they've nicked the TARDIS but from a different version of the Doctor later in his life (when he was younger!). Evil also ends with the Doctor and Jamie throwing on a rerun of Power of the Daleks (I think?) for Victoria's benefit which is just delightful ![]() Edit: Or am I mixing that up with Zoe after The Wheel in Space?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I love the round things. ![]() Action Jacktion posted:it doesn't make up for the fact that this is the same book in which Dodo is raped and murdered by the Master. ![]()
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Finally got my order of the 60th Anniversary Specials come in, really looking forward to rewatching thi... and the package is empty. ![]() This is the Toymaker behind this, clearly! ![]()
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Pretty weird that "The Eleventh Hour" is 15 years old today. drat, crazy to believe season 20 is here in just a few days.
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I was always put off by the Doctor's flippant dismissal of Martha's very real concern about how her race would impact on her treatment in that time period. Thin Ice does a MUCH better job by having the Doctor remind Bill this is a possibility and they just need to grit their teeth through it, then the very second the rear end in a top hat bad guy starts making a racist comment the Doctor just punches him in the loving face ![]() ![]()
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Speaking of Garfield films, I really dug Under the Silver Lake though it had some rather troubling (but deliberate as part of the story/themes) treatment of women - it kind of felt like I was watching a Daniel Clowes comic come to life, heavy Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron vibes to the whole thing.
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Disney: So how are you spending our money? RTD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqxuG1SFFII Disney: Secure funding for another 10 years for this man. IMMEDIATELY. BBC: My God, that's 3-4 more seasons of Doctor Who guaranteed!
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Just recently rewatched Evil of the Daleks which has a similar theme of Daleks introduced to the "human factor" almost immediately grasping greedily onto the feelings and thoughts that were genetically excised from them eons earlier by Davros, and showing growth as individuals that the other Daleks immediately try to squash. There are a ton of (I assume intentional) parallels with that story in Evolution of the Daleks, even if the "blank" humans are more akin to Robo-Men from The Dalek Invasion of Earth. Both they and the Daleks with the Human Factor in Evil immediately commit the cardinal sin for Daleks of asking "why?" when given an order.
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The Doctor fistbumping with the Silurian doctor who was doing humam vivisections was quite the thing
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Isn't the new episode supposed to be on now or have I mixed up the international time zones?
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Diabolik900 posted:Twelve hours from now ![]() That is the longest anybody has ever had to wait for a new episode of Doctor Who. Ever. ![]()
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Diabolik900 posted:Twelve hours from now ![]()
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Oh thank God it exists ![]()
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Miss Flood! ![]()
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Poor Sasha, she'll live now only in several years of Big Finish audios
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"Planet of the Incels" ![]()
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The Doctor and Belinda laughing their asses off at the incel dude getting turned into a sperm and egg and polished off the floor by a little robit ![]()
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Well the climax of the main story felt somewhat rushed and a lot of the setup character wise kinda went nowhere, but it was a fun episode and I liked the set-up for the season, as well as Belinda just calling the Doctor out on a lot of his presumptions. Thank God new Doctor Who is finally back.
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I've reached a point in my life where I feel confident the series will never truly go away, if it could survive the original 89 - 2005 gap it can survive anything. That said, gently caress off and give me more seasons of Who goddammit! To be equally fair, a year or more between seasons has been a regular feature of Who for a long time now ![]()
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He also just casually tosses out a,"Girls are bad at math" at the start of his big "romantic" gesture, which set some alarm bells ringing.
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Vinylshadow posted:Also how did Belinda know what a TARDIS was? I assumed that she had a glimpse into the Doctor's mind/timeline like he had into hers during the Blinovitch Limitation Effect bit? Not to the same extent as the Doctor who apparently looked back over her entire timeline but enough that she picked up some surface level stuff? Although I guess it could turn out that there is something more going on there and it relates to the Doctor meeting her future descendant, which he was interested in exploring further and she - quite understandably - shut down because she didn't want him thinking of her as an interesting experiment rather than a person, kinda akin to Clara complaining to the Doctor that she was JUST Clara, not some Impossible Girl mystery. OR it could be as simple as there was a line in the script or filmed but not included where he specifically told her his ship was called a TARDIS and they later line was a reference back to that!
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Any argument of course can be (genuinely!) countered with,"Well he shouldn't have written that set-up then" but once Al was divided into a sperm and egg laying on the floor he's effectively dead as noted, it's not exactly optimal conditions for either of those things to have continued existence and there isn't really a solution that will keep him alive. That said, apart from the fact the writing set-up could have been avoided, we see a similar but much happier solution in Boom Town where Margaret is given the fresh chance/restart she wanted in a very literal sense as she is turned back into an egg and taken back to the homeworld and raised by another family and actually have the chance to grow up to be a better person, and her gratitude for that opportunity when she realizes what is about to happen to her gives her at least some agency (or at least say) in what is happening.
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It's undercut somewhat by him spending 10 years as a robit, but I also liked the unspoken comparison between Belinda and Al's growth. We see how much Belinda grows between being an awkward teenager having what I assume is an early or even first-time relationship and then as a grown woman nurse who has matured and changed and become more self-assured. Al meanwhile, half-a-decade or so after that first star-naming scene, appears not to have grown or changed at all. The moment he is given "power" as King he revels in it and makes no bones about treating living people as "NPCs" in a video-game. Belinda becomes queen and almost immediately takes action to sacrifice herself in order to preserve the lives of people who are suffering, accepting responsibility for it even though all of this happened independent of her even knowing they existed, as well as understanding the unintended results from an off-the-cuff remark and accepting this is still her fault regardless. Belinda owns is basically what I'm saying.
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Putting aside the madness of the situation, her perspective is that a bunch of people just died instituting a plan to save her specifically. People have seen their loved ones die for HER, some of the survivors are bitter and angry at her about it, the "safe" location they're in is shaking and rocking under constant bombardment, more people out there rebelling are dying right now. When she arrives at the safehouse, her first thought is to put her nurse training to use and try to look after and help people, but she can see more death is coming and she makes the decision that if she hands herself over now, it will stop people dying RIGHT NOW (what comes later isn't something she is considering, it's saving people in the moment from what she sees as senseless deaths) and she probably also has some vague hope that if she can talk to the actual person in charge they might come to some agreement, or enough of herself will survive the "marriage" that she can actually have input into stopping further killing. It doesn't make logical sense but it doesn't have to, it's a very human reaction to not take the logical long-term (and genre-savvy) consideration into account but to see people dying NOW and wanting to do what you can to stop that happening. She's also, unlike Al, willing to act unselfishly and sacrifice herself to save others.
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She made that mistake deliberately because she didn't want to reveal what wrestling fans have known for decades, that she is in actual fact a robot ![]()
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:That was 11 years ago. It was only 6 seasons ago so... oh. Oh yeah. ![]()
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Mr Beens posted:We don't need to spoiler tag everything, the episode has aired Posts with spoiler tags were made within the 24 hour window of the episode airing, which the OP reasonably asked people to keep in spoiler tags.
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ikanreed posted:We didn't get a dalek episode last season did we? Nope, and in fact the only Dalek appearance since RTD took over that I can recall is the Children in Need(?) special where 14 accidentally fills in for the BBC Props Department Head in 1963 going,"That's far too bloody expensive for some flash-in-the-pan kid's show!"
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That's... what I just said! ![]()
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Oh I didn't recall that being at the BBC with the budget joke., I just recall Davros being like "Hmmm a plunger" The arm Davros has on the Dalek felt to me like a nod to Raymond Cusick's original design which had a claw arm that - from memory - would be capable of a variety of functions, and they ended up swapping it out with a plunger because that was a shitload cheaper!
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I think that if you take into account all the important things like fiscal return and IP considerations weighed against market saturation, the absolute best possible play is to have Ncuti Gatwa make a bare minimum of 5 more 10-12 episode seasons at a rate of one season per year over the next 5 years. It's simple mathematics and you can't argue with the logic, I've considered every possible option and found zero flaws with my plan.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I have. You didn't account for Christmas Specials I wanted to keep the Chimes of Midnight adaptation a pleasant surprise!
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# ¿ May 22, 2025 13:44 |
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I can't remember, were the Gods of Ragnarok mentioned last season? I am definitely one of those who feels like the Land of Fiction seems to fit very much into this period of Who, but I can see them (either as Flood or through her) trying to set up adventures for the Doctor to have to entertain them.
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