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mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

CubicalSucrose posted:

I suspect Molly is town right now.

Molly how verbose have you been? Would you clear horse as being town right now?

Lean town but not deffo town

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mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

horse. posted:

by that i mean, i know scum can read the thread

i can only suspect scum sees the linking chat

bro what

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

CubicalSucrose posted:

Actually nevermind maybe I'm missing something. Molly why Horse yesterday and not Voodoo?

why did I add horse to the chat and not voodoo??
bc voodoo never left

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

horse. posted:

oh if u mean how did u get "a result" N3

my primary power during the day phase is the power to ##vote for the player I think is most likely to be scum!!

I explained the other half in the link-up chat. I'm going to keep the details to that chat and myself, for now

marimo & voodoo can vouch that I'm transposing info accurately

“explain” is doing some work there unless I missed something but this does match up with what he said in chat yeah

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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I cannot believe it is at all controversial to say that scum can read the thread

(unless ur suggesting some wild PRs for the scum team)

I don't have proof of voodoo's alignment, nor cube's, nor sparkle's

I only know that I'm town, and that if ur scum ur pulling the most wild gambit I've ever seen u attempt

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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mollyohreally posted:

“explain” is doing some work there unless I missed something but this does match up with what he said in chat yeah

the only missing detail is in the chat, although I agree chat got pretty casual for a long chunk of Friday

(my N3 target was free-pick, since I ended D3 before I could even place a vote)

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

horse. posted:

I cannot believe it is at all controversial to say that scum can read the thread

(unless ur suggesting some wild PRs for the scum team)

I don't have proof of voodoo's alignment, nor cube's, nor sparkle's

I only know that I'm town, and that if ur scum ur pulling the most wild gambit I've ever seen u attempt

no the thing about scum being able to read the link chat
only true if scum is still in there I would think (I hope not!!)

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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mollyohreally posted:

no the thing about scum being able to read the link chat
only true if scum is still in there I would think (I hope not!!)

well, even IF I accept that u, voodoo, sparkles and now cube ARE town

the game better end after we flip sand, or it's even more likely the next player u add IS scum

& the added players can read back as far as they care too

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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also, where is vices

if somebody fuzzed my results, I'm looking at vices or t-mo next

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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horse. posted:

the only missing detail is in the chat, although I agree chat got pretty casual for a long chunk of Friday

(my N3 target was free-pick, since I ended D3 before I could even place a vote)

I've read back like half of it. Casual indeed.

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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CubicalSucrose posted:

I've read back like half of it. Casual indeed.

look it's called the "link up chat" and i am a QT, no cap

let ur flag fly during pride 3 at least!!

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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horse. posted:

look it's called the "link up chat" and i am a QT, no cap

let ur flag fly during pride 3 at least!!

What results do you have for the other days?

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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CubicalSucrose posted:

What results do you have for the other days?

Nevermind found it.

Guided By Vices
Nov 3, 2002

Did you marry a man who married the sea? He looks right through you to the distant grey - calling, calling..

horse. posted:

also, where is vices

if somebody fuzzed my results, I'm looking at vices or t-mo next

Yeah sorry I checked out a bit. My only mechanic only does something if someone visits me at night which hasn't happened, and everyone is talking about chats and mechanics that are incomprehensible to me so I don't really have anything to contribute. I'm town as Voodoo indicated.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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horse. posted:

##vote

oh wait, did we already hit hammer

Hmmmmmm.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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I don't understand horse's claims.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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I am likely interested in voting horse today.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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(Abbreviated version of what I logic'd out in the masonry)

Horse or TMor today, I think between the two of them we have presumably the last scum. With presumably 7 / 1 today, we should be fine regardless.

Horse seems to be claiming weird poo poo. Which is more null alignment-wise than it would from most players. But horse today over TMor because it may reveal info about Sand.

(Side note did you do an SA namechange?)

##vote Horse

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


I’m down for horse or TMor

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Guided By Vices posted:

Yeah sorry I checked out a bit. My only mechanic only does something if someone visits me at night which hasn't happened, and everyone is talking about chats and mechanics that are incomprehensible to me so I don't really have anything to contribute. I'm town as Voodoo indicated.

Hello new-old-player Guided By Vices. What led you to stop playing mafia? What inspired you to restart?

I will give you the abbreviated masonry experience: Do you have experience with dogs, cats, or ferries?

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Sandwolf posted:

I’m down for horse or TMor

lmao yeah, i bet!!

these soft omgus prods just don't feel like town sand

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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CubicalSucrose posted:

(Abbreviated version of what I logic'd out in the masonry)

Horse or TMor today, I think between the two of them we have presumably the last scum. With presumably 7 / 1 today, we should be fine regardless.

Horse seems to be claiming weird poo poo. Which is more null alignment-wise than it would from most players. But horse today over TMor because it may reveal info about Sand.

(Side note did you do an SA namechange?)

##vote Horse

i've been sus of cube the entire match & i've directly asked voodoo to "embody" me mire than once

im town y'all, the only other player who would come at me this hard is scum, if it aint sand

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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actually, that would square w/ why my results don't appear to make sense

cube has been HAMMERING me about my invest getting a wonky result, all D4

##vote cube well played, but in hindsight ur getting too thirsty about my results being "wrong"

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


horse. posted:

lmao yeah, i bet!!

these soft omgus prods just don't feel like town sand

Bro go read my post history in the game you *just ran* and tell me they’re not internally consistent? Horse is desperate here

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


##vote horse

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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that's consistent w/ sand claiming miller too

i'd bet sand was joey's N2 pick too

and my bad result is supposed to make sand the frame-up

clever at least!!

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Sandwolf posted:

Bro go read my post history in the game you *just ran* and tell me they’re not internally consistent? Horse is desperate here

i'm not desperate and im literally continuing to solve this puzzle

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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horse. posted:

actually, that would square w/ why my results don't appear to make sense

cube has been HAMMERING me about my invest getting a wonky result, all D4

##vote cube well played, but in hindsight ur getting too thirsty about my results being "wrong"

13 to start, typically expect 3 scum. Have seen 2 scum and a non-threat 3P ortho. Expect 1 scum left.

Eight players left.

Voodoo - Town because Sand's Miller claim foils the investigation. Instacaught Clo. Could be hard-bussing, need to reread The Suc if it gets to endgame.
GBV - Towncleared by Voodoo. Plausibly a GF.
Molly - Also an invest but a whole lot weaker with more false positives. Pretty null, plausibly scum but low on the list.
emSparkly - Most likely doc who prevented the NK last night.
Sand - Probably doesn't do the Miller gambit early. Might be a successful doc pulling a doing something weird here but that seems unlikely.

That leaves horse and TMor.
Horse - Weird voting behavior. I don't buy "no votes D3 go ahead and pick anyone." Came up with a positive motion-track on claimed-can't-act-at-night Sandwolf. Came up with that on a night with no NK. Considers that evidence to vote Sandwolf.
TMor - Unclear what day action they may or may not have tried to do to me. Process of elimination basically.

Before running through all this, I also soft-cleared emSparkly and GBV based on an early Clo comment in masonry which is pretty weak but aligns with this view of the gamestate.

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So it's something like:
Horse or TMor most likely.
If horse flips town, we may get info on early-claimed-Miller Sandwolf.
If Sand is very slow-playing a doc or someone is withholding a used-up-BP claim, then emSparkly is plausibly back on the table.
At endgame, reevaluate Voodoo.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Sandwolf posted:

Sure ##vote Taishi

Sand was second vote on taishi with me. I don’t think sand feels the need to bus that early here.

Going to try and figure out what vote was like here then move forward. It might take me a while it’s weekend

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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Taishi Ci posted:

Hmmm... ##vote molly

Yeah more points for I think Molly is town

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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horse. posted:

I don't think I've personally seen town wolo, like, ever

let's get buckwild!!

##vote voodoo

Forgot horse was on Wolos crap vote of me

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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Guided By Vices posted:

I don't understand all the day action and mason poo poo so just going on a read of the thread

##vote stalin

Two votes without explanation on people who'd already had some votes building on them, feels like scum trying to slip in early and hoping it snowballs as we get closer to deadline.

First Stalin vote day 1

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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horse. posted:

a similar notion had occurred to me, and then I remembered that cube started with this move:

so now I would definitely like joey to explain why he sweats so hard when he's scum

##vote joeyscuminator

Horse with second Stalin vote

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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mollyohreally posted:

i dont really love that emsparkly has made five posts about being a cult leader and thats about it
however i also think i should ##vote JosefStalinator

i agree with gbvs read and I also remember him aboslutely bamboozling me last game we played together to the point where i decided he was gonna be my d1 policy for a while

Molly third.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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CubicalSucrose posted:

I don't like that much at all. Will review TMor early elims in past Pridefias.

Can I interest anyone in a

##vote Sandwolf

Cube doesn’t join Stalin vote. I think that’s again pro points for him.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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Cloacamazing! posted:

Those Cube votes are the worst votes, seriously, why is nobody voting Cube?

More weight for town cube.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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Taishi Ci posted:

A molly vote to see what it triggers. I think your read on that post as being scummy is pretty bizarre but it's at least already in line with what you were saying before. Sand's not looking good for just jumping on the vote with you though. ##vote Sandwolf

Eh I suppose this is probably slightly more town sand although sand is voting him at this point so distancing might be in play.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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mollyohreally posted:

yeah taishi keeps gettin scummier. ##vote taishi c

Molly is town

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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Cloacamazing! posted:

##vote Taishi I'm down with that

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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

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CubicalSucrose posted:

Real quick -2.

Let's make it a real quick -1.

Sand Miller claim was just pointed out.

##vote Taishi Ci

Good vote

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