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Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
Just thinking about the time I first saw The Land Before Time 2 and realized movies can be bad, actually.

What movie/show/book/song/etc made you realize quality exists?

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Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
You know what? Not just media. I realized spinach kicks rear end the first time I tried spinach dip instead of canned poo poo.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

my dad showed me blade runner on vhs when i was 8 and that's when i realized blade runner fuckin owns

Vakal
May 11, 2008
The one two punch of Men in Black 2 and Starship Troopers 2

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen taught me that there is a level beyond just bad, when even a good MST3K sendup can't fix it. When it is so bad you remember it years later as "that movie where you should have thrown a soda at the screen and walked out"

redm
Feb 20, 2016


Sugartime Jones
Tim Burtons Wonka

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

Summertime Lovin' (loving in the summertime)

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redm posted:

Tim Burtons Wonka

Is a forgotten classic that i will defend 2 the death

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

evilmiera posted:

Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen taught me that there is a level beyond just bad, when even a good MST3K sendup can't fix it. When it is so bad you remember it years later as "that movie where you should have thrown a soda at the screen and walked out"

The first one is the only movie I ever walked out of, so I cannot IMAGINE powering through that and getting your poo poo wrecked by something worse.

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

Ziv Zulander posted:

Is a forgotten classic that i will defend 2 the death

It is in fact remembered and bad

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I saw the second matrix movie and was flabbergasted by what a piece of garbage it was

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
That Beowulf movie that was all performance captured animation in stereoscopic 3d. I was newly working in film VFX at the time so I was really into that sort of thing. It really sucked and it coincided with a growing realisation that I didn't really like films that much as an art form and film VFX as an industry.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Whole bunch of Hanna-Barbera and Ruby-Spears cartoons from the ‘70s and ‘80s. They had their memorable classics, but also a lot of stinkers.

Cable TV reran these endlessly throughout the ‘80s and ‘90s because they were cheap airtime filler. Lots of them were on inaugural Cartoon Network and the USA Cartoon Express.

Were CB Bears, Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch, Turbo Teen or Rubik, the Amazing Cube any good? Hell to the loving no; they sucked poo poo and I knew it. Did I care then? Hell to the loving no because there weren’t any other cartoons on, or I was just waiting for the better shows to come on.

The Great Burrito
Jan 21, 2008

Is that freedom rock? Well turn it up!
Watched The Master of Disguise at 12 and realized not all comedies are funny or even watchable :saddowns: I was a big Dana Carvey fan too

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

Summertime Lovin' (loving in the summertime)

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Rubber Chicken posted:

It is in fact remembered and bad

Johnny depp was the best choice to play Willy wonka. His introduction scene where they have the terrible animatronics do a song and dance about how great he is and then burst into flame, then it cuts to him clapping gleefully in the audience is amazing. It depicts him perfectly as a hubristic lonely child like outsider who desperately wants to fit in, while everybody else wants to keep him at arms length

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

Ziv Zulander posted:

Johnny depp was the best choice to play Willy wonka. His introduction scene where they have the terrible animatronics do a song and dance about how great he is and then burst into flame, then it cuts to him clapping gleefully in the audience is amazing. It depicts him perfectly as a hubristic lonely child like outsider who desperately wants to fit in, while everybody else wants to keep him at arms length

The oompa loompa situation was very bad

Also whenever I see your avatar I get the theme song in my head for hours and sometimes that makes me grumpy (and sometimes it makes me happy)

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

Summertime Lovin' (loving in the summertime)

Av by CrocodileKingSaysNO



Rubber Chicken posted:

The oompa loompa situation was very bad

Also whenever I see your avatar I get the theme song in my head for hours and sometimes that makes me grumpy (and sometimes it makes me happy)

The Oompa Loompa was played by one man and he was the original r2d2. You can not do better than that.

e: the 165 Oompa Loompas were played by a single hardworking aged dude from Kenya

Ziv Zulander fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 18, 2025

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



6 Million Dollar Man. There was a bit of the show where Steve Rogers is flying himself from one Air Force Base to another or something, and they used a lot of stock footage for the "flight." I was an airplane nerd, and each goddamn clip of stock footage had a completely different airplane. Like he took off in an F-5, then it was suddenly an F-101, then an F-4, and so on. On that day I learned the concepts of "continuity error" and "suspension of disbelief," as that latter was irretrievably shattered.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

The Chair Company taught me that things can suck and be good.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Ziv Zulander posted:

Johnny depp was the best choice to play Willy wonka. His introduction scene where they have the terrible animatronics do a song and dance about how great he is and then burst into flame, then it cuts to him clapping gleefully in the audience is amazing. It depicts him perfectly as a hubristic lonely child like outsider who desperately wants to fit in, while everybody else wants to keep him at arms length

you are loving insane

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

Summertime Lovin' (loving in the summertime)

Av by CrocodileKingSaysNO



Cubone posted:

you are loving insane

It’s really the best version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmzZaB0kss

Willy wonka hates those kids. He hates them with everything he’s got, yet he knows he needs to find an heir. Look at that indifference turn to glee after the fat German child gets sucked up into the tube. The panic from the mother, and Willy wonka soaking it all in. He considers it terrible for a child to be in the chocolate river, but doesn’t care at all about the oompa loompas swimming around in it during their song

Cubone
May 26, 2011

you can't fool me I'm looking at it

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

one of my vivid memories from childhood is leaving the theater after seeing attack of the clones and being stunned at how noticeably awful it was. it was the first movie i clocked as being a complete loving mess. i was 10 at the time. i'd been okay with phantom menace at 7, mostly for all the toys and lego sets, but 3 years older and wiser made attack of the clones, especially the romance plot, a bridge too far. i was also shocked at how awful the visual effects looked, how everything looked so fake and cartoony. even then my brain noticed a distinct difference between the early hd digital video and the film look of the previous movies. after that i didn't care about star wars anymore and didn't end up watching revenge of the sith until much later after its release, which remains the most recent star wars film i have seen and i mean to keep it that way

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004



At some point I finally realized that Sublime sucks. But I'd alread bought all of their lovely albums like a chump.

lipid
Feb 21, 2001
Still bitter about Zelda II

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


I remember preordering Lunar: Dragon Song because I really liked Lunar (I first played it through the GBA port, Lunar Legend). I was about ten, I think. I was really excited about it.

So, in Lunar: Dragon Song, running around on the overworld drains your HP. Even in towns. There is no HP regen. In combat, you cannot target enemies manually, your party members will choose someone to attack at random. In... an RPG. There is a fast forward button you can use in combat, but you have to hold it down. I suppose they figured out that battles are really boring when you can't even decide who to attack, but that didn't make them re-evaluate their choices at all. Enemies can and will steal/break your equipment, including drops that are only available one time so you have no way to get them back unless you reload. The story is impressively bland and the final boss is just some loving lackey you fight for the third time in the story. You're like oh, this dickhead again, okay cool I'm past him, time to fight the real final boss the game has been building up to! Then after an exposition dump, a random earthquake happens, he falls off a ledge, and dies. It is hilariously abrupt, not played for laughs or anything, that's just... it.

I remember just being so firmly confused as a child playing this. This was supposed to be a good game! It had the name of a good game on it. The same people who worked on the other game that I liked probably worked on this game. The art looked okay. So it just didn't compute in my brain. I was just so stupefied by how bad the mechanics were that I really thought there had to be something I was missing. There's no way this legitimately drains your HP when you run around, a super basic game mechanic, right? Like there's no way they thought that was a good idea, there has to be something in this game that makes it livable and makes that make sense, right? :confused:

I think I knew that some games were less good than others, but I guess I thought it was a thing of the past? Like this sort of naive idea that if a thing was bad, it was just old. That it was only bad because you didn't know better. So I didn't understand how new things could be bad because we'd already learned those lessons so why would you make those mistakes again especially if you had a lot of money and smart people behind it? Just make the thing good, what's the problem? I remember hearing about how badly Gigli bombed and being confused for the same reason but I didn't watch that (obviously, I was way too young).

It was very jarring to experience something so bracingly, undeniably awful firsthand and yet I think it took me years to fully appreciate just how bad it was.

Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Nov 18, 2025

Barudak
May 7, 2007

You also didn't mention that encounters can only give XP or Items, and you must choose which you want before entering a dungeon. Items they drop are also not useable things, they're fetch quest items for the randomly generated quests which are the only way to make money.

So there a part where in getting your rematch with a villain who kicked your rear end before you throw your sword at them and it hits them. Then the boss pulls it out of themselves and uses it to kick your rear end again.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Batman & Robin.

Not the first time I watched it, where I quit after 15 minutes, but the second, where I thought "I never gave it a proper chance, surely it must be at least okay" and forced myself through.

Valko
Sep 17, 2015

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Day of the Dead: Bloodline

The original Day of the Dead is an underrated classic. It's actually my favourite of Romero's zombie trilogy. I first watched it the way it was meant to be watched - on a really grainy and beat up VHS tape. Sort of gave it a found footage vibe.

Bloodline? I stopped watching after 20 minutes. It was offensively stupid. You know there's something wrong when the voices you hear don't really sync up with the actors lip movements. It's the sort of film where I wouldn't be surprised if I could see a boom mic hovering over the actors heads.

In one scene where a group is driving along a road at night and hop out of the car I could clearly see 3-4 spotlights in the background.

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007



"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
Hell Gem

CaptainSarcastic posted:

6 Million Dollar Man. There was a bit of the show where Steve Rogers is flying himself from one Air Force Base to another or something, and they used a lot of stock footage for the "flight." I was an airplane nerd, and each goddamn clip of stock footage had a completely different airplane. Like he took off in an F-5, then it was suddenly an F-101, then an F-4, and so on. On that day I learned the concepts of "continuity error" and "suspension of disbelief," as that latter was irretrievably shattered.

Steve Austin is just such a badass that he switches planes mid-flight. :radcat:

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 24 hours!
i believe it was one of those straight to DVD disney releases where i was just baffled, even child me knew this poo poo was garbage

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
I was 4 years old, went to see Masters of the Universe in the theatre, and thought what the gently caress was that poo poo?

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Feelin' Fine.
My grandpa took me to see Rock a Doodle in theaters. I was 4 years old and apparently when we left the theater I started crying and said it was because the movie made me feel bad.

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

Spending birthday money on Spelunker for the NES

gently caress YOU BRODERBUND

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

:catdrugs:


The Room taught me media can be good, and how to love again.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016

look, we all have a type. mine is just mewtwo.
Dudes With Attitude


I think this might be my earliest memory of feeling that whiplash between my expectations after seeing the box art and the experience of playing the actual game. I only got two dollars a week for allowance and I spent that every Friday on a three-day Nintendo game rental. I worked for this!!!

I felt similar disappointment with Wall Street Kid but to be fair the box art didn't set the bar that high

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

credburn posted:

Dudes With Attitude


I think this might be my earliest memory of feeling that whiplash between my expectations after seeing the box art and the experience of playing the actual game. I only got two dollars a week for allowance and I spent that every Friday on a three-day Nintendo game rental. I worked for this!!!

Well there's your problem, OP: the diamond tells you it is not designed, manufactured, sponsored, or endorsed by Nintendo and is one of those unlicensed games that slipped by Nintendo's seal of approval and probably came in one of those weird-looking black or blue cartridges. My cousin had one called The Adventures of Captain Comic that was a blue cartridge. The game was... not good.

Now if you wanna talk about a legit Nintendo game that let me down, Taboo: The Sixth Sense.



I remember seeing this game cartridge at the video rental place thinking how "taboo" meant something forbidden or prohibited, so this game must be good! The sticker on it stating 'not for children' only made it more enticing to play. I rented it and was let down almost instantly upon the first play. You tediously enter your personal information and ask the game a question, then the game plays itself without your involvement. It's just a simulated tarot card reading game with vague descriptions for each card, then you get some lucky numbers when it's done and the game resets itself for another round. What a bummer for nine year old Werewolf.

I have long since come across a copy and own the game for my NES lol

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Super NES Dodgeball helped me realize a game can be pretty basic but still a lot of fun. Especially when drinking was involved.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008
One weekend in my childhood I rented Boogerman and Ballz3D. I felt extreme disappointment like I'd never felt before.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
Zork and Zork2. Text based adventure game.
"The Grue has killed you!" WTF? No warning, no chance to do anything to live, just a "You are now dead" message.
Also the thief, "The thief has stolen from you!" Try to look around (in text) and there is no thief to be seen; but check your inventory and sure enough something would be missing.
Absolutely no recourse.

Ultima Online taught me that video games could actually be very cool.

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bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

signalnoise posted:

One weekend in my childhood I rented Boogerman and Ballz3D. I felt extreme disappointment like I'd never felt before.

I liked those games :saddumb:

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