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I think molly is scum. I feel like i need to ##vote molly which is unfortunate for reasons
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Nazgul is probably top of my scum list, then probably sparkly or maybe shwinn/FoS? Feel ok about meen and miracle, felt good about Molly but now I'm less sure. ##vote RNNG to mix things up a bit
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Dec 8, 2025 20:14
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shwinnebego posted:I think molly is scum. I feel like i need to ##vote molly which is unfortunate for reasons Probably feel a little townier about shwinn now
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Dec 8, 2025 20:15
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Hal Incandenza posted:Probably feel a little townier about shwinn now is this purely reverse-OMGUS or is there something deeper here
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Dec 8, 2025 20:38
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shwinnebego posted:is this purely reverse-OMGUS or is there something deeper here I just feel like you'd be doubling down on easy target Hal here if you were scum But then again you are often an enigma
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Dec 8, 2025 20:40
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This whole shwinn/hal interaction is weird
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Dec 8, 2025 20:55
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shwinnebego posted:My power is in some ways similar to Hal’s which makes me suspicious emptyquote
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Dec 8, 2025 21:04
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fool of sound posted:This whole shwinn/hal interaction is weird Do you think one or more of us is scum based on the interaction? What conclusions do you draw from said weirdness? What is your read on molly?
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Dec 8, 2025 21:10
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Toalpaz posted:emptyquote Is this your way of saying that you also have a power in some ways similar to Hal's? I claimed to have *a* power early on, it is curious to me that scum have been whacking vanillas rather than me.
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Dec 8, 2025 21:10
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I suppose it may not have been clear to scum until recently that this was a high-vanilla game
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Dec 8, 2025 21:11
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shwinnebego posted:Is this your way of saying that you also have a power in some ways similar to Hal's? i mean i did claim town joat when grandi claimed so its fair to say some of hal's powers have cropped up
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Dec 8, 2025 21:21
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Toalpaz posted:emptyquote Yeah after seeing Hal's description it felt JOATy and I was curious if this was how your thing worked. Grandi's claim seemed a little bit different and more "classic" JOAT but could've relatively easily also been this same style.
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Dec 8, 2025 21:21
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CubicalSucrose posted:Yeah after seeing Hal's description it felt JOATy and I was curious if this was how your thing worked. Grandi's claim seemed a little bit different and more "classic" JOAT but could've relatively easily also been this same style. no i have straight up a classic goat joat like grandi with a familiar but slightly different skill set.
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Dec 8, 2025 21:22
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delenda est fool imo
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Dec 8, 2025 21:22
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Toalpaz posted:no i have straight up a classic goat joat like grandi with a familiar but slightly different skill set. Right that's what you said earlier. I was originally assuming your skillset was more prot-focused but that is now less clear to me today. I also had been scumreading you right at day start but there have been a few people who have jumped up ahead of you today.
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Dec 8, 2025 21:24
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I have a confusing result from last night, which is why I want to see Cube flip properly before I make a judgement call. That is all.
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Dec 8, 2025 21:42
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shwinnebego posted:delenda est fool imo not opposed
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Dec 8, 2025 22:06
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Hal Incandenza posted:not opposed join me
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shwinnebego posted:Do you think one or more of us is scum based on the interaction? What conclusions do you draw from said weirdness? absolutely nothing has changed my opinion that hal is scum and he remains my favorite flip for the day. molly is only nominally not lurking and I'm leaning scum there.
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Dec 8, 2025 22:38
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##vote hal
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Dec 8, 2025 22:38
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redneck nazgul posted:I have a confusing result from last night, which is why I want to see Cube flip properly before I make a judgement call. That is all. ok but he's a stump we're not allowed to vote for him and we don't know when of if he'll actually flip so
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Dec 8, 2025 22:39
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fool of sound posted:absolutely nothing has changed my opinion that hal is scum and he remains my favorite flip for the day. molly is only nominally not lurking and I'm leaning scum there. Vote mollly with me
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Dec 8, 2025 22:42
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shwinnebego posted:Vote mollly with me i want to vote hal cause he's way scummier and has been since day 1
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Dec 8, 2025 22:44
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like you just made three different posts about how hal is sus and then you go "hmm actually i won't vote there tho". why? hal is the strongest case you've actually laid out lol
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Dec 8, 2025 22:47
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fool of sound posted:ok but he's a stump we're not allowed to vote for him and we don't know when of if he'll actually flip so Is a stump dead?
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Dec 8, 2025 22:50
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redneck nazgul posted:Is a stump dead? Yeah Cube is dead but can post in thread. Cube doesn't get a vote. Usually the stump flips after a delay in cases like this. He's janitored (???) because if we know Cube is town or scum in this state, while Cube is still in thread, we could just take it as fact instead of possible lies.
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Dec 8, 2025 22:53
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Toalpaz posted:Yeah Cube is dead but can post in thread. Cube doesn't get a vote. Usually the stump flips after a delay in cases like this. He's janitored (???) because if we know Cube is town or scum in this state, while Cube is still in thread, we could just take it as fact instead of possible lies. If he's dead and town, I could have targeted him last night since I can only target dead townspeople with my one-shot. My action failed, so it's ambiguous whether he's alive or not-town.
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Dec 8, 2025 22:57
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redneck nazgul posted:If he's dead and town, I could have targeted him last night since I can only target dead townspeople with my one-shot. My action failed, so it's ambiguous whether he's alive or not-town. I'm assuming that the mod would stop you using your ability on someone who isn't dead (is a stump really dead?). Your ability is the edge of an edge case but I think it clears Em and condemns a Cube supporter.
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Dec 8, 2025 23:26
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well, you could have been role blocked. and if its a seance ability (get them to talk with you in private or in thread) it wwould be redundant so I would fail that as a mod/tell you to hold off.
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Dec 8, 2025 23:28
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Toalpaz posted:I'm assuming that the mod would stop you using your ability on someone who isn't dead (is a stump really dead?). Your ability is the edge of an edge case but I think it clears Em and condemns a Cube supporter. Toalpaz posted:well, you could have been role blocked. and if its a seance ability (get them to talk with you in private or in thread) it wwould be redundant so I would fail that as a mod/tell you to hold off. As I said, lot of ambiguity here but it's why I'm less inclined to dunk Sparkly until there's a resolution.
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Dec 8, 2025 23:33
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fool of sound posted:like you just made three different posts about how hal is sus and then you go "hmm actually i won't vote there tho". why? hal is the strongest case you've actually laid out lol My case on Hal is not that strong it’s setup spec and weak vibes. By contrast my case on molly is strong vibes
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Dec 8, 2025 23:39
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redneck nazgul posted:Is a stump dead? For all important purposes in the average game? Yes. A player that can't vote and doesn't count for voting purposes cannot in any reasonable sense control the vote. They can influence it with whatever they say, but a hypothetical scum stump loses when the rest of their team is eliminated. You could hypothetically have a stump that has powers at night which would allow them to affect the gamestate still, but that would be pretty OP and we don't have a lot of evidence of OP poo poo going on in this game.
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Dec 9, 2025 00:27
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redneck nazgul posted:If he's dead and town, I could have targeted him last night since I can only target dead townspeople with my one-shot. My action failed, so it's ambiguous whether he's alive or not-town. Okay, now your stance makes sense at least. Whatever's going on with Cube is mechanically weird for sure; it's possible he's "alive" for mechanical interaction purposes but not for voting purposes. The scum option only makes sense to me under one of two options: 1. He resurrects fully later with the powers to vote and be voted. 2. He's being propped up by somebody else. In both cases, "who makes sense as his partner?" is the question to pursue the answer to.
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Dec 9, 2025 00:49
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:In both cases, "who makes sense as his partner?" is the question to pursue the answer to. I think it's probably molly if either of those cases happens.
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Dec 9, 2025 01:51
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Okay, now your stance makes sense at least. Whatever's going on with Cube is mechanically weird for sure; it's possible he's "alive" for mechanical interaction purposes but not for voting purposes. The scum option only makes sense to me under one of two options: 1. He resurrects fully later with the powers to vote and be voted. 2. He's being propped up by somebody else. In both cases, "who makes sense as his partner?" is the question to pursue the answer to. I disagree, scum!cube could be on a scum team with a janitor power and they janitored his flip. QED, occam's razor satisfied, etc.
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(cube being scum and being a stump with a janitored flip doesn't require anything more complicated than cube being a scum stump and the scumteam having a janitor power. it's not any more far fetched than anything else in a closed setup) Either way, the main thing to vote on is who is sketchy. Hal was sketchy D1 and his claim overlaps with mine a bit, which I don't like. That has less weight than FoS mafia-dadding in a manner consistent with his scum meta, in my experience That has even less weight than me having generalized scum vibes on molly.
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Dec 9, 2025 02:21
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im sorry but when has a stump ever been alive? cube is a stump he is dead so rn either: has proof cube is not town is lying the first seems most likely regardless of nazguls alignment
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Dec 9, 2025 03:35
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also i get how sparkly is condemned if cube is town but how are they cleared if cube is scum doesnt a eccocop just let you know "at least 1 person in the group is not town"
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Dec 9, 2025 03:37
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mollyohreally posted:also thats valid, but i want to say something with bravado about how dumb hurr hurr. Still i got the vibes that they're oppositionally aligned. If i were scum team and two of us were there I think I would push to get the ecco cop executed first.
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mollyohreally posted:im sorry but when has a stump ever been alive? My result is "my action failed". I can only use my action on dead town-aligned people. If Cube is alive, the action fails, because Cube's not dead: No alignment check is possible here. If Cube is dead, the action fails if and only if he is not town-aligned. Since nobody has claimed to roleblock me, this means that it's either "Cube is technically alive and we cannot determine alignment" or "Cube is dead and is non-town". I'm offering you all the results and proof that I have, but go ahead and go off with this "redneck is lying" poo poo.
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