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emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to eggterpretation!
Or he’s just lying.

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

emSparkly posted:

Or he’s just lying.

Possible! Feels real at the moment though

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

I am not a miller. And I'm not going to d1 vote a newbie, so thunderdome with Cube it is.

##vote Cube

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

emSparkly posted:

Or he’s just lying.

Feels like a scum reaction to having a N0 eccoCop on them.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Miracle Box posted:

Yeah, I’ve been busy with new projects at work (got a promotion a few weeks ago :toot:)

In the interest of proving my townieness, I had a N0 action that let me determine if any three players of my choosing are not town. I chose Cube, emSparkly, and Grandi. I got a result of not town.

I was hesitant to spill the beans, because this info alone will probably have scum kill me. Besides this, I can’t do anything else. The least I can do is leave town with good info.

A night 0 eccocop is... weird but I it's not in my general box reads for them to be doing a gambit here. I could see a scum/3p cube claiming "weird PGO" as a gambit, but

emSparkly posted:

Or he’s just lying.

this is a really bad response.

Grandi feels cleanest but I kinda want to think about it more cause Grandi is notoriously good at avoiding heat as scum.

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Grandicap posted:

Feels like a scum reaction to having a N0 eccoCop on them.

so you think cube is scum but you also think sparkly is scum?

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

but you don't want to vote for sparkly bc shes newish

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

My interpretation of eccos is the results showed "at least one of the targets" is non-town. So it could be both emSparkly AND Grandi.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

mollyohreally posted:

so you think cube is scum but you also think sparkly is scum?

I have no idea if Cube is scum. It's early d1 and I didn't have any early pings. But if there is at least 1 scum in the set containing {Cube, Grandi, emSparkle} I'm voting for Cube every time (until such a time as I determine em is not a new player)

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CubicalSucrose posted:

My interpretation of eccos is the results showed "at least one of the targets" is non-town. So it could be both emSparkly AND Grandi.

Or Both em and Cube.
(Or all three of us assuming you aren't one of us and therefore do not have access to your own town role card. Or are a scum in league with the one or more scums in the contains scum set.)

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
first off, did anyone else have a night 0 action of any kind? don't need to overclaim, just want to see if the night 0 stuff is reasonably real.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Also my dude is pretty much the definition of "Too Old for this poo poo" and "One day from retirement" so I'm definitely dying early. It is the way these movies go. You see, I'm genre savvy.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

fool of sound posted:

first off, did anyone else have a night 0 action of any kind? don't need to overclaim, just want to see if the night 0 stuff is reasonably real.

Somber called for N0 actions publically. Unless it was some sort of double bluff, there were a non zero number of Night 0 actions taken.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Grandicap posted:

Somber called for N0 actions publically. Unless it was some sort of double bluff, there were a non zero number of Night 0 actions taken.

oh oops didn't notice that. cool. in that case, here are the scenarios I see, from most to last likely

---night 0 town eccocop with 13 players seems weird, but it could be a one-shot or we could have miller(s)/a godfather.
---box is a BH with an eccocop to find their target. this could explain a night 0 action.
---box is scum and there's a dangerous-to-scum 3p to justify the role AND scumteam decided to gambit to buy themselves a couple days.

i think on balance we probably assume it's a real result

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Miracle Box posted:

Never played with emSparkly or Grandi, chose you because we’ve been in enough masonries together to cover all my bases.

This post was determined to be a lie.


(We played discworld together)

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Grandicap posted:

I have no idea if Cube is scum. It's early d1 and I didn't have any early pings. But if there is at least 1 scum in the set containing {Cube, Grandi, emSparkle} I'm voting for Cube every time (until such a time as I determine em is not a new player)

Yeah I mean voting each other is the only course of action we should be taking today until EOD regardless of alignment, barring either of us wanting to openclaim some 3P role or whatever. From everyone else's POV, it's (at least 1 in 3, probably) which is just slightly better than (probably 3 out of 13). Likely some ways of narrowing things down tonight so very reasonable to just "hold for now" on the info and vote elsewhere today.

I do like that it has made D1 somewhat interesting.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Miracle Box posted:

Yeah, I’ve been busy with new projects at work (got a promotion a few weeks ago :toot:)

In the interest of proving my townieness, I had a N0 action that let me determine if any three players of my choosing are not town. I chose Cube, emSparkly, and Grandi. I got a result of not town.

I was hesitant to spill the beans, because this info alone will probably have scum kill me. Besides this, I can’t do anything else. The least I can do is leave town with good info.

CUBE DELENDA EST ##VOTE CUBE

Miracle Box
Sep 30, 2024

Grandicap posted:

This post was determined to be a lie.


(We played discworld together)

oh poo poo I forgot about discworld. my b!

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Soooooo I’d kinda like to hear from the other people indicated in box’s result?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

fool of sound posted:

Soooooo I’d kinda like to hear from the other people indicated in box’s result?

All 3 of us have spoken.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Grandicap posted:

All 3 of us have spoken.

Not a whole lot! Esp considering that one of you should probs be the vote today!

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Wait hold the gently caress up

What kind of PGO is cube where Box didn't get hit investigating them?

emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to eggterpretation!
I too will ##vote grandi for now.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

fool of sound posted:

Not a whole lot! Esp considering that one of you should probs be the vote today!

I think I have explicitly said that one of us should not necessarily be the vote today.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

fool of sound posted:

Wait hold the gently caress up

What kind of PGO is cube where Box didn't get hit investigating them?

I'll give you three guesses.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

CubicalSucrose posted:

I'll give you three guesses.

:lol: ##vote Cube

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

We don't have to guess about the type of PGO you are if you flip.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

We don't have to guess about the type of PGO you are if you flip, especially if it's the "fake claim" type.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Hmm...FoS lean town. Iggy lean scum.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




there's more than one kind of PGO...?

i was under the impression that it was identical to the typical vet role from other mafia formats that vigs anyone who visits them any night that they choose to go on alert

that's how it's been every time i've seen it, too

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

:ghost: HAUNTED! :ghost:
THIS USER HAS DISTURBED THE ETERNAL SLEEP OF GOON SPIRITS DEPARTED AND IS BEING HAUNTED UNTIL THEIR POSTING NO LONGER SHAMES THE ANCESTORS
It varies. Sometimes it's an active power, sometimes it's a passive thing they can't turn off.

Also depends on if an Eccocop counts as a visit. It's kinda murky.

Murky like the briny waters of the deep the squid people are hiding in.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




sure but that's just minor interpretations on the same role

i don't know what they're getting at by referring to which "type of PGO" cube is as if there's clearly defined variants out there

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
i love ecco cops
oh hell yeah i cant wait to read this game and form an opinion

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Zoya posted:

there's more than one kind of PGO...?

i was under the impression that it was identical to the typical vet role from other mafia formats that vigs anyone who visits them any night that they choose to go on alert

that's how it's been every time i've seen it, too

Automatic PGOs exist as well that don't have to activate themselves; they have about the same incentive as a miller does to claim early so people don't visit them, with the same utility for scum to hide behind claiming it. Clo had one as an SK in the Second Great Sommelier CYOWIFOA game she ran last year.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Oh cool (1) something interesting happened and (2) there are not 1 million posts.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

emSparkly posted:

I too will ##vote grandi for now.
:birdthunk:

##vote emSparkly

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Toalpaz posted:

i love ecco cops
oh hell yeah i cant wait to read this game and form an opinion
ikr

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Automatic PGOs exist as well that don't have to activate themselves; they have about the same incentive as a miller does to claim early so people don't visit them, with the same utility for scum to hide behind claiming it. Clo had one as an SK in the Second Great Sommelier CYOWIFOA game she ran last year.
Well this is p unhelpful + scum to house Iggy.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
idk what to make of Cube's claim but I think Sparkly's reaction is off here.

Wanna see where they go next from here.

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Stoatminder
Jul 18, 2025

Mind your murders.
Votecount for Day 1

⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢🟢 CubicalSucrose (4): mollyohreally, mollyohreally, fool of sound, Grandicap, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Ignatius M. Meen
⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢 Grandicap (3): redneck nazgul, CubicalSucrose, emSparkly
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 emSparkly (1): shwinnebego, shwinnebego, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 Zoya (1): mollyohreally
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 Ignatius M. Meen (1): shwinnebego
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ fool of sound (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, yuming, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ mollyohreally (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Miracle Box (0): Ignatius M. Meen, Zoya, Zoya, Ignatius M. Meen


Not voting: Hal Incandenza, Miracle Box, Toalpaz

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is December 03rd, 2025 at 8 p.m. CST -- that's in about 20 hours, 4 minutes.

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