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Pcmaker
Feb 11, 2025

by HopperUK
Would you have done the same thing or take the milly?

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Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
:lol: they think there's gonna be a future

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

What's that thing on the wall behind her? The light blue thing.

bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

Would've demanded 1 million dollars worth of red lobster coupons

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


You won't believe what she did next!

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

She would get a better return on the 1000 after around 20 years. She looks young. Additionally it would force you to maintain a level of self-control in your spending, you could supplement your income with a part time job and mostly coast with a constant safety net underneath of you, and you'd also have an excuse for moochers.

Seems fine to me OP.

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

She did the right thing, OP

You didn't

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
Don't know OP, you'll need post the legal paperwork instead of just a clickbait headline so we can see what happens if whoever is paying her goes bankrupt before we can give you an answer

Lt. Cock
May 28, 2005

weener joke
gently caress u pencilhands

OldPyjama
Dec 2, 2025

Extreme Moderate
Even with inflation, her decision is probably the best

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Not doing any math, I feel like investing the 1 million in the magic money machine will get you more money.

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


No, because she played the lottery. Hope that cleared it up.

Genesplicer
Oct 19, 2002

I give your invention the worst grade imaginable: An A-minus-minus!

Total Clam
Technically, you would hit one million in payouts in a little less than 20 years. She's projected to live at least another 60 years, so the weekly payout would be over three million. But it also works out to $52,000 per year, so that's not huge. But it would be a really nice supplement for her income.

At that age, I would have gone for the weekly. At my current age, I'd go for the million.

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

Duck and Cover posted:

Not doing any math, I feel like investing the 1 million in the magic money machine will get you more money.

You don't get a million to invest if you take the million

Because taxes exist

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

ground floor of pencilhands thread

Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015

Genesplicer posted:

Technically, you would hit one million in payouts in a little less than 20 years. She's projected to live at least another 60 years, so the weekly payout would be over three million. But it also works out to $52,000 per year, so that's not huge. But it would be a really nice supplement for her income.

At that age, I would have gone for the weekly. At my current age, I'd go for the million.

In 20 years hamburger will cost 1000$ a pound and that's assuming the United states never pulls the trigger and defaults on purpose, in which case the thousand dollars could be used as kindling

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




a ~20 year break even is not really true.

a rule of thumb used for retirees is that you can pretty safely assume 4% of a balanced stock/bond portfolio as annual income, inflation adjusted, forever without eroding the principal. so your typical 60/40 stock bond style index portfolio valued at $1M could produce $40k per year, or $769 per week, indefinitely.

and again, that 4% rule is inflation adjusted, whereas the fixed $1000 weekly payment is not. if you assume a modest 2.5% average annual inflation rate, by the 12th year the real value of the 4% income from the initial $1M portfolio will exceed the the $1000 weekly payment. thus the fixed weekly payment will not actually catch up in the long run. there will be an initial decade or so where it may provide slightly higher income, before falling behind forever.

this assumes these numbers are after tax. if they are before tax, then the $1M lump sum will have a big chunk taken out up front in taxes, whereas taxes will be both lower and deferred using the weekly payout. that could tip the math the other way. i'd still take the lump payment either way so i wouldn't get screwed if the financial company handling the weekly payout goes under.

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


i'd take the milly and go out in a blaze of glory

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Rubber Chicken posted:

You don't get a million to invest if you take the million

Because taxes exist

i think the usa is one of the only countries greedy enough to tax lottery winnings. but i saw this story elsewhere yesterday and i believe this lady won the canadian lottery

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

Titanohyrax is an extinct genus of large to very large hyrax from the Eocene and Oligocene. Some species are estimated to have been as large as the modern rhinoceros. Estimates of body mass range from 600 kg (1,300 lb) to 1,300 kg (2,900 lb).


Yes OP. Like Gene said, at 20 you take the payments, at 90 you take the lump.

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

no it was not smart to put yourself in the paper saying ‘hey i gotta bunch of money’

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

gently caress off pencilhands

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

The beast we awoke hath been untamed
Eyes of fireth and wings of a flame
If I had a million dollars. I'd buy you a monkey. Haven't you always wanted a monKEY?

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
take the million and spend it all on more lotto tickets

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Genesplicer posted:

At that age, I would have gone for the weekly. At my current age, I'd go for the million.

:hmmyes:

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

This is so dumb. $1,000 in 2045 will be worth like ten bux in 2025 dollars.

Think of how many McChickens you could buy in 2005 with $1,000. That's right, a thousand. How many could you get today? Less than 300.

Also, she didn't need that million. I DID. But also, I need way more than that. gently caress you the lottery!!! :mad:

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

i wish i didnt have to worry about money or rent or bills lol i hate this loving struggle existence

Brainworm
Mar 23, 2007

...one of these--
As he hath spices of them all, not all,
For I dare so far free him--made him fear'd...
Nap Ghost
Be interesting to know if the $1MM was the face value of the prize or the amount of pre-tax cash she'd have received as a lump sum. From what I know of lotteries (which is basically seeing the signs for them at the gas station) the lump-sum payout option is significantly lower than the face value of the prize, and $1MM would be a suspiciously round number to hit after lump-sum discounting.

And of course investing $1000 a week would let you dollar cost average your investment over 20 years, which is maybe a better option than dumping $1MM in an index fund at a moment when Nvidia and OpenAI and Microsoft are all loaning each other imaginary money. When we're all walking around in barrels and suspenders next year it might be a different story.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Lt. Cock posted:

gently caress u pencilhands


kntfkr posted:

gently caress off pencilhands

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Mozi posted:

take the million and spend it all on more lotto tickets

Also a ski mask and a replica gun, nobody will ever believe that a lottery winner would rob a bank!

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

Titanohyrax is an extinct genus of large to very large hyrax from the Eocene and Oligocene. Some species are estimated to have been as large as the modern rhinoceros. Estimates of body mass range from 600 kg (1,300 lb) to 1,300 kg (2,900 lb).


Pcmaker isn’t PH

PH is the other guy

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




he's Mahi Candlepins from the Sherdog forums

need some wiki entries to keep track of all this lore

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Bad Purchase posted:

this assumes these numbers are after tax. if they are before tax, then the $1M lump sum will have a big chunk taken out up front in taxes, whereas taxes will be both lower and deferred using the weekly payout. that could tip the math the other way. i'd still take the lump payment either way so i wouldn't get screwed if the financial company handling the weekly payout goes under.
Your post definitely made me pause because I was 100% sure she made the right decision but yeah actually I now realize I would not trust almost any entity to survive and/or make good on the promise long enough to be worth the weekly amount, even if LOGICALLY I would rather be like "lol hell yes" and never have to work another day in my life (I live in Iowa, $52,000 is probably going to be enough to live on plus pad retirement savings for decades to come)

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Brainworm posted:

Be interesting to know if the $1MM was the face value of the prize or the amount of pre-tax cash she'd have received as a lump sum. From what I know of lotteries (which is basically seeing the signs for them at the gas station) the lump-sum payout option is significantly lower than the face value of the prize, and $1MM would be a suspiciously round number to hit after lump-sum discounting.

And of course investing $1000 a week would let you dollar cost average your investment over 20 years, which is maybe a better option than dumping $1MM in an index fund at a moment when Nvidia and OpenAI and Microsoft are all loaning each other imaginary money. When we're all walking around in barrels and suspenders next year it might be a different story.

i looked it up and posted earlier ITT that it's the canadian lottery she won and they don't tax winnings. way to out yourself as a poster that doesn't read every post in every thread

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

Panic! At The Tesco posted:

i think the usa is one of the only countries greedy enough to tax lottery winnings. but i saw this story elsewhere yesterday and i believe this lady won the canadian lottery

If we didn't tax lottery winnings every CEO's salary would become $1 + a guaranteed lottery prize

Like, instantly

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Brainworm posted:

And of course investing $1000 a week would let you dollar cost average your investment over 20 years, which is maybe a better option than dumping $1MM in an index fund at a moment when Nvidia and OpenAI and Microsoft are all loaning each other imaginary money. When we're all walking around in barrels and suspenders next year it might be a different story.

if you're sure we're in a bubble and believe there's a crash in the near future, you'd be better off taking the full lump sum in cash and leaving it in a money market account for the short amount of time until the stock market is down 30% or whatever amount you're betting it's going to fall, then invest it all at once.

or you could take the lump sum and put it all in the market, minus some portion to invest in an AI-short ETF to hedge against the bubble

that kind of market timing is hard to pull off though and dollar cost averaging tends to underperform lump sum investing the majority of the time

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

2 chicks at the same time

Brainworm
Mar 23, 2007

...one of these--
As he hath spices of them all, not all,
For I dare so far free him--made him fear'd...
Nap Ghost

Bad Purchase posted:

that kind of market timing is hard to pull off though and dollar cost averaging tends to underperform lump sum investing the majority of the time

This will come in useful when I win the Canadian lottery.

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

redshirt posted:

2 chicks at the same time

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Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

The beast we awoke hath been untamed
Eyes of fireth and wings of a flame
This thread made me buy some Canadian lottery tickets

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