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Would Goku turn on the heat if Chi-Chi asked him to?
No, Goku would not allow the heat to be turned on.
Yes, Goku loves his wife.
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deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
I had a discussion about this with someone recently and they said they have never noticed that it's a thing so I am wondering how you all feel about this.

The weather has recently got cold enough to turn on the heater. In a recent very large meeting at work, this came up as a point of discussion before the meeting began, and several of the men in the meeting made big points about how they will never allow the heater to be turned on and if you're cold you should put on more clothes. One of them in particular spent a few minutes talking about how his pregnant wife has been begging him to turn the heat on but he will NOT allow it to happen, insinuating that she's stupid for even asking and that she just needs to listen to his male wisdom. Not one single person who made this declaration mentioned anything about the cost of electricity and running the heat, it was all this unspoken "hmph" about being tough enough to survive without the heat on. The only woman to share a similar sentiment is the pick-me type who's always trying to be one of the good ol' boys.

I feel like I recognize this as a really dumb cliche display of faux-masculinity but I don't know where I got that cliche from. Maybe movies or stand-up comedy or something? And the person I discussed this with said they had no knowledge of this as any kind of trope or cliche. Is this something you have ever heard of? Do you refuse to turn on the heat? And if so, why?

Side-note: shortly after that meeting someone turned down the thermostat in the office and several of those same men are complaining about how cold the office is.

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Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

I like it cooler than many people and would err on the side of a cooler mutual workspace

But it's not because of my gender

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard

Rubber Chicken posted:

I like it cooler than many people and would err on the side of a cooler mutual workspace

But it's not because of my gender

Well, this isn't about what temperature preferences you have, my question is more like: if it was cold for you, would you turn on the heat or would you just put on more clothes? What if several people were cold, would you turn on the heat for their sake or would you tell them to dress warmer?

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

deep dish peat moss posted:

Well, this isn't about what temperature preferences you have, my question is more like: if it was cold for you, would you turn on the heat or would you just put on more clothes? What if several people were cold, would you turn on the heat for their sake or would you tell them to dress warmer?

I would dress warmer first. I like that it's the only time I can really wear layers or warmer things

If I'm still cold after that, heat. My heat has been "on" for months but I use a little fan at work because it's too warm in there

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
For the record I personally turn the heat on because I like not being cold when I get out of bed in the morning, I hate the sensation of being cold, and I also like being able to lounge around at home in the winter wearing shirts and a t-shirt. Currently I have it set to 76 degrees, but my apartment is well-insulated so the heater doesn't need to run much to maintain that.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

I do it as a display of cheapness OP, as did my illustrious predecessor Ebenezer Scrooge. Currently set to 68.

Nookovian-Red
Sep 13, 2002
I WILL NOT CLOSE THREAD IN Serious Hardware / Software Crap
We captured loving fire for a reason. We get sick and die if we get cold for too long.

Now we can push a switch on a wall that turns on a heatpump that generates any temp we want for a modest electrical cost.

I leave mine on 70* auto AC/Heat and forget about it. Sometimes I push it up or down for a little extra AC goodness and it's not like I'm going broke enjoying not being cold.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

If you aren’t calling dudes wearing jackets homophobic slurs then you are a homophobic slur.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
i ignore the temps starting from when i exhale visible breath and endure when most people sweat without flinching & would still turn the heater and air conditioning on because i have cultivated compassion

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008
I spend most of my time in my home office, and that room has a mini split AC unit. I get to set my temp to whatever I want, and the rest of the house can be whatever my wife wants.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

i just adjust the thermo to 60 to 65 degrees. that’s a good ambient temperature. but if someone asks me to turn up the heat, i turn up the loving heat. this is because i have access to modern technology and im capable of experiencing sympathy and empathy.

but yeah, the majority of men who have ever existed are machismo-poisoned idiots who would rather die than lose the facade of their imagined “masculinity”

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Mar 31, 2010

I'm becoming Calvin's dad in middle age. Some of us (a) live where heat is a nicety, not a necessity, and (b) the price of electricity is loving extortionate.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Wearing clothes is annoying enough without layers. Especially at work, turn that poo poo up, ain't your electricity bill. The dudes you're describing sound like Home Improvement type men who won't ask for directions when lost and a bunch of other bad ideas about being a man.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
I don't think Goku would know how to operate or maintain the heater. Chi Chi or Gohan would probably be in charge of that.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
Goku is literally an alien from a technologically-advanced space-traveling species I am pretty sure he knows how a thermostat works. Maybe not a cellphone though, so I guess it depends whether it's a smart thermostat with an app, or a real thermostat with buttons. Capsule Corp seems like the type to install smart thermostats in their capsule homes so this is a valid consideration.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
who tf has electric heat thats the least efficient kind

Rubber Chicken
Mar 13, 2024

SniperWoreConverse posted:

who tf has electric heat thats the least efficient kind

Lots of people in places that don't get very cold very often

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression
Yes, refusing to turn on the heat does make you cooler.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
turn the heat up? okay, rockefeller

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


Reminds me of when I worked at wall market 40 years ago and some emmaciated skin head dude who worked over night called me a pussy for using an umbrella when it was pouring out. Right then and there I swore to never be called a pussy again, because I am a strong man, and destroyed my umbrella for everyone to see. My boss promoted me on the spot. I haven't used an umbrella since.

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
I live in the south and it never gets cold, what's it like to have heat?

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

Outpost22 posted:

I live in the south and it never gets cold, what's it like to have heat?

If my $350 August electric bill was reversed to February because living somewhere where it’s dark at 3:30pm and 30 degrees is rational. 78 and sunny.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




being cold builds character op

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

:catdrugs:


Our thermostat is set to like 19c and I fuckin hate it.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

flubber nuts posted:

Reminds me of when I worked at wall market 40 years ago and some emmaciated skin head dude who worked over night called me a pussy for using an umbrella when it was pouring out. Right then and there I swore to never be called a pussy again, because I am a strong man, and destroyed my umbrella for everyone to see. My boss promoted me on the spot. I haven't used an umbrella since.

Wall Market?? In midgar???

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Not only do I not use the heat, I run the AC all year long. Except in the bathroom. I do not enjoy a cold shitter. Even worse I shave in the shower but I don't like to waste my precious hot water while I do so so I have to stand there, wet, and shiver.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
Your co-worker who told his pregnant wife to toughen up should get his dick kicked in

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


deep dish peat moss posted:

For the record I personally turn the heat on because I like not being cold when I get out of bed in the morning, I hate the sensation of being cold, and I also like being able to lounge around at home in the winter wearing shirts and a t-shirt. Currently I have it set to 76 degrees, but my apartment is well-insulated so the heater doesn't need to run much to maintain that.

Both my wife and I like it very cold and keep the thermostat at 58°. Currently the temperature outside is 13° and with the wind chills it gets down to negative 20. While that is pretty extreme, we are both the kind of people who would rather put on more clothes because we both like cold weather more than we like warm weather. The winters don't get cold enough for us here and we are talking about finding a place that's colder year round.

Everyone has different tastes. I think the best thing to do is be respectful of other people while taking care of yourself. Sometimes you can't reach an agreement and things might get difficult and in those moments that's when it's most important to be respectful.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
building a pillow fort in my cubicle and making a hot water bottle in the company kitchen

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
lol at being mad at the company spending money to make the workplace more comfortable

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard

Extra Large Marge posted:

Your co-worker who told his pregnant wife to toughen up should get his dick kicked in

He is at least the one person that people called out in that meeting and were like wtf are you doing man, but he stood his ground on no heat allowed

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


Definitely sounds like something I would expect out of director level management and above. It's been my experience with that kind of person.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

I think it's pretty extreme to not want to turn the heat on for your pregnant wife. The cognitive dissonance with macho dudes playing up the "protector and provider" poo poo constantly, then becoming little bitch boys over the slightest inconvenience for the sake of others is astounding.

Of course, this is with the presumption that the wife was being reasonable. The only time my own wife and I ever had words over the temperature was when she was complaining she was cold while insisting on wearing only sleeveless garments and skirts in the dead of winter. That's my line in the sand- if you're wearing the wrong season's clothing, and everyone else in the house is fine with the temperature, then it's a you problem. But if you're still cold or hot while wearing seasonal clothing, then absolutely have at the thermostat.


That said, I do actually think Americans are very extreme in their just of climate control, both for heating and cooling. Like, people keep it cold enough inside during the summer that I'm reaching for a jacket, and warm enough in the winter that I pretty much never get to wear a sweater.


When I've visited countries that use climate control more mildly, I've gotten used to the climate really fast, and felt the affects of it much less than when I've been at home. And I've gotten to use more of my wardrobe, instead of just t-shirt and pants all the time.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Pimpadelic
I turn the air to whatever will make me comfortable op

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022





deep dish peat moss posted:

I feel like I recognize this as a really dumb cliche display of faux-masculinity but I don't know where I got that cliche from.

you caught the woke, OP

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Rubber Chicken posted:

Lots of people in places that don't get very cold very often

Heat pump

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

Smugworth posted:

I turn the air to whatever will make me comfortable op

this is the proper use of climate control

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard

nullandvoid posted:

Definitely sounds like something I would expect out of director level management and above. It's been my experience with that kind of person.

he's a consultant to the sales department lol

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
I do not turn on the heat but it has nothing to do with concepts of masculinity, rather gently caress you put on a jacket, running the heater costs money

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Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




the poll about goku really misses the fact that he could easily use his kaio-ken technique to raise his body temperature and emit warmth into the house without any need for a heater or fireplace

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