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Srice posted:he also talks about how black people were better off with slavery because he compares working in a factory with slavery, but at least with *actual* slavery they could work outdoors!! This is not much difference between chattel slavery and economic wage slavery. One of the key differences is that in economic wage slavery the owner of the factory has even less of an imperative to protect the lives of his workers because they are all easily replaceable for little to no cost.
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Heath posted:the paternalistic tumblr shut-in logic being present in a novel from the 60s is almost chilling that is exactly what i was thinking when reading it. good book, but dang. i guess a lot of things just don't change after all.
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Hobohemian posted:This is not much difference between chattel slavery and economic wage slavery. One of the key differences is that in economic wage slavery the owner of the factory has even less of an imperative to protect the lives of his workers because they are all easily replaceable for little to no cost. actually they get a deece wage in this situation! ignatius just tells them that they're being oppressed because deep down he considers himself to be smarter than them, and that they need an educated white guy to tell them about it. (and of course for even more lulz, he has never worked an honest day in his life) i know this is completely ignoring what you were going for but heck, this ain't old gbs and i don't really care to seriously discuss that topic in a thread for an ownage book Srice fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 18:52
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Heath posted:the paternalistic tumblr shut-in logic being present in a novel from the 60s is almost chilling whoa another GBS goon with an encyclopedic knowledge of Tumblr and an inability to not make every single thread about it???
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Infinite Jest, is it anything like? no. they're both excellent books, but confederacy of dunces is way better and much funnier, imo.
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MYRNA FORM PEACE PARTY CENTRAL COMMITTEE NORTHEAST ZONE AT ONCE STOP ORGANIZE AT EVERY LEVEL STOP RECRUIT SODOMITES ONLY STOP SEX IN POLITICS STOP DETAILS WILL FOLLOW STOP IGNATIUS NATIONAL CHAIRMAN STOP
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Srice posted:actually they get a deece wage in this situation! ignatius just tells them that they're being oppressed because deep down he considers himself to be smarter than them, and that they need an educated white guy to tell them about it. quoting for unintentionally describing hobohemian and his comrades
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...of SCIENCE! posted:whoa another GBS goon with an encyclopedic knowledge of Tumblr and an inability to not make every single thread about it??? this is a single thread and the entire point of the book is that the main character is a reprehensible piece of poo poo social leech with lovely ideas about race and social justice in spite of the fact that he never leaves his room until his mother forces him to, so i'm not sure what your complaint is??
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haljordan posted:Reading is for fags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8
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Read it many years ago, I wanted to c/p some funny bits so I just got it as an ebook and holy poo poo its even better than I remembered. Ignatius and Myrna Minkoff are such perfect amalgams of horrible blogger stereotypes that they seem anachronistic.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:29
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its my fav book no joke
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RevSyd posted:Read it many years ago, I wanted to c/p some funny bits so I just got it as an ebook and holy poo poo its even better than I remembered. Ignatius and Myrna Minkoff are such perfect amalgams of horrible blogger stereotypes that they seem anachronistic. my fave moment with myrna is that she is filming a pro-interracial marriage thing and she gets upset when the black woman she hired doesn't want to work for free and walks off, and myrna's all "well, i guess she just doesn't believe in that cause!"
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Jun 12, 2014 04:36
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Ignatius' entire rationale for starting a worker revolt is just so he can prove to her how much more revolutionary he is than her
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it's a good book but it has that 70's comedy movie mentality where everything works out for the best in the end even though the characters are all horrible gently caress ups who should be dead
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gigawhite posted:it's a good book but it has that 70's comedy movie mentality where everything works out for the best in the end even though the characters are all horrible gently caress ups who should be dead the book was never finished because the author killed himself
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Jun 12, 2014 04:52
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Emanuel Collective posted:the book was never finished because the author killed himself no, the book was finished. he committed suicide like 4 years after writing it and no one would publish it
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The Belgian posted:I'm about halfway through it myself. So far its been very good & funny. Let's share our thoughts and discuss the book here. i'll wait till the second movie comes out to form an opinion
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Srice posted:my fave moment with myrna is that she is filming a pro-interracial marriage thing and she gets upset when the black woman she hired doesn't want to work for free and walks off, and myrna's all "well, i guess she just doesn't believe in that cause!" quote:Her logic was a combination of half-truths and clichés, her worldview a compound of misconceptions deriving from a history of our nation as written from the perspective of a subway tunnel. She dug into her large black valise and assaulted me (almost literally) with greasy copies of Men and Masses and Now! and Broken Barricades and Surge and Revulsion and various manifestos and pamphlets pertaining to organizations of which she was a most active member: Students for Liberty, Youth for Sex, The Black Muslims, Friends of Latvia, Children for Miscegenation, The White Citizens’ Councils. Myrna was, you see, terribly engaged in her society
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Jun 12, 2014 15:47
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problematic imo
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meanwhile, on goodreads, people miss the point http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/310612.A_Confederacy_of_Duncesquote:Nathan rated it 2 of 5 stars quote:Gregory rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition I love when the people who rate the book low write their reviews in the same overblown ridiculous way that Ignatius himself does quote:Szplug rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition
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Jun 12, 2014 17:20
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That last one has to be a joke
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I already read gbs
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:That last one has to be a joke I'm really not sure because you tend to find reviews of roughly that caliber all over Goodreads on pretty much any book. Any Harry Potter book will have them buried in there somewhere edit: all the 1 star reviews are gold. I think this book is kind of a litmus test, kind of like how they say "if you don't have a friend like this, you probably are that friend." if you don't get Ignatius, you probably are Ignatius. quote:Terry rated it 1 of 5 stars Heath fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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