Butthead posted:

I find it strange that he is not in jail.

eternalname posted:

I personally believe that he was a genuine serial rapist.

It's more how this all happened that seems 'off' to me. Why was this known but not cared about for so long? And now it just comes out of nowhere. And Cosby was one of the most powerful black men in the US. I've been toying with the idea that someone was sitting on this information and decided they needed to silence him for whatever reason. Seems like very many prominent black leaders in this country end up with tarnished reputations, or dead.

Butthead posted:

I find it strange that he is not in jail.

A Stupid Baby posted:

Wait are you saying that rape is extremely under-reported, mishandled by police forces everywhere and that if you're enough of a celebrity you can commit a laundry list of The Worst Crimes and nobody will care



Oh wait a conspiracy thats a much more likely scenario

Danger Mahoney posted:

Not a comedian, but Brian Singer is a notorious statutory rapist and for-real rapist. But he's a white guy with a lot of money Jew so whatcha gonna do.

Zzulu posted:

Rape isnt a crime if you're rich, it has never been throughout history

Shadoer posted:

Not really once you look at the cases out in the public.

Assuming the stories published are 100% true, the situations given make it especially hard to prove rape occurred.

Most of the stories floating in the press involve women who were on a romantic date with Cosby, and probably would have slept with him willingly without any date rape drug. In fact, at least one woman claimed that she continued to date Cosby after he raped her. Other stories involve situations like a "party at the Playboy mansion" which most people could imagine casual sex occurring. Or Cosby would do something like outright give them the date rape pill and ask his victim to take it, and they would.

Now, I'm not saying this that these women "asked for it" or it means they are lying. I'm saying that it makes it a difficult case for the prosecutor to pull off.

A prosecutor trying to get a rape conviction, generally needs the following:

- Proof the accused had sex with the victim.
- Proof that it was forced and against the victims will.

The problem is proving that it's forced. They were drugged so no defensive wounds, technology even now isn't that great for picking up date rape drugs, and trying to play the character card won't work because they were in situations where consensual sex was likely. Any of these cases, individually brought forward, would have been thrown out. It's only because of the sheer number of them that any prosecutor could have a chance at getting a conviction as there's a theoretical pattern.

Even then, Cosby already has the narrative built in that he's an rear end in a top hat in relationships. Apparently everyone in comedy knew Cosby was a player and a heartbreaker, so the idea that women would want to take "revenge" against him was already well seeded. It was also known that Cosby had no problem picking up women, so the question of why the hell would he bother to rape these women would also be hanging over any case brought against him.

And it's a pretty good defense honestly. It's hard to explain why someone like Cosby who has tons of success and power would bother date raping women who were already romantically involved with him and would likely have slept with him anyways. That's a pretty high level of "totally hosed up" right there.

IF Cosby is guilty, he had to have given this a good about of thought and likely used his psychological knowledge to keep himself away from any accusations. Each situation, in some way designed to maximize guilt on the part of the victim to prevent himself from getting any fall back and ensure that a prosecutor would have squat to work with.

Shadoer posted:

Not really once you look at the cases out in the public.

Assuming the stories published are 100% true, the situations given make it especially hard to prove rape occurred.

Most of the stories floating in the press involve women who were on a romantic date with Cosby, and probably would have slept with him willingly without any date rape drug. In fact, at least one woman claimed that she continued to date Cosby after he raped her. Other stories involve situations like a "party at the Playboy mansion" which most people could imagine casual sex occurring. Or Cosby would do something like outright give them the date rape pill and ask his victim to take it, and they would.

Now, I'm not saying this that these women "asked for it" or it means they are lying. I'm saying that it makes it a difficult case for the prosecutor to pull off.

A prosecutor trying to get a rape conviction, generally needs the following:

- Proof the accused had sex with the victim.
- Proof that it was forced and against the victims will.

The problem is proving that it's forced. They were drugged so no defensive wounds, technology even now isn't that great for picking up date rape drugs, and trying to play the character card won't work because they were in situations where consensual sex was likely. Any of these cases, individually brought forward, would have been thrown out. It's only because of the sheer number of them that any prosecutor could have a chance at getting a conviction as there's a theoretical pattern.

Even then, Cosby already has the narrative built in that he's an rear end in a top hat in relationships. Apparently everyone in comedy knew Cosby was a player and a heartbreaker, so the idea that women would want to take "revenge" against him was already well seeded. It was also known that Cosby had no problem picking up women, so the question of why the hell would he bother to rape these women would also be hanging over any case brought against him.

And it's a pretty good defense honestly. It's hard to explain why someone like Cosby who has tons of success and power would bother date raping women who were already romantically involved with him and would likely have slept with him anyways. That's a pretty high level of "totally hosed up" right there.

IF Cosby is guilty, he had to have given this a good about of thought and likely used his psychological knowledge to keep himself away from any accusations. Each situation, in some way designed to maximize guilt on the part of the victim to prevent himself from getting any fall back and ensure that a prosecutor would have squat to work with.

Shadoer posted:

Not really once you look at the cases out in the public.

Assuming the stories published are 100% true, the situations given make it especially hard to prove rape occurred.

Most of the stories floating in the press involve women who were on a romantic date with Cosby, and probably would have slept with him willingly without any date rape drug. In fact, at least one woman claimed that she continued to date Cosby after he raped her. Other stories involve situations like a "party at the Playboy mansion" which most people could imagine casual sex occurring. Or Cosby would do something like outright give them the date rape pill and ask his victim to take it, and they would.

Now, I'm not saying this that these women "asked for it" or it means they are lying. I'm saying that it makes it a difficult case for the prosecutor to pull off.

A prosecutor trying to get a rape conviction, generally needs the following:

- Proof the accused had sex with the victim.
- Proof that it was forced and against the victims will.

The problem is proving that it's forced. They were drugged so no defensive wounds, technology even now isn't that great for picking up date rape drugs, and trying to play the character card won't work because they were in situations where consensual sex was likely. Any of these cases, individually brought forward, would have been thrown out. It's only because of the sheer number of them that any prosecutor could have a chance at getting a conviction as there's a theoretical pattern.

Even then, Cosby already has the narrative built in that he's an rear end in a top hat in relationships. Apparently everyone in comedy knew Cosby was a player and a heartbreaker, so the idea that women would want to take "revenge" against him was already well seeded. It was also known that Cosby had no problem picking up women, so the question of why the hell would he bother to rape these women would also be hanging over any case brought against him.

And it's a pretty good defense honestly. It's hard to explain why someone like Cosby who has tons of success and power would bother date raping women who were already romantically involved with him and would likely have slept with him anyways. That's a pretty high level of "totally hosed up" right there.

IF Cosby is guilty, he had to have given this a good about of thought and likely used his psychological knowledge to keep himself away from any accusations. Each situation, in some way designed to maximize guilt on the part of the victim to prevent himself from getting any fall back and ensure that a prosecutor would have squat to work with.

Dieting Hippo posted:

hey they would have slept with him anyway, whats wrong with a little male enhancement

david... posted:

look at these words of a rapist

Dieting Hippo posted:

hey they would have slept with him anyway, whats wrong with a little male enhancement

Shadoer posted:

I love how explaining why it's a difficult case to prove in a court of law means I'm a rapist and a misogynist. I guess explaining how things worked in Nazi Germany means I'm a nazi too

spooky girlfriend posted:

Naw that's what your avatar means

Shadoer posted:

I love how explaining why it's a difficult case to prove in a court of law means I'm a rapist and a misogynist. I guess explaining how things worked in Nazi Germany means I'm a nazi too

Uncle Wemus posted:

how could a guy who was all about clean comedy, family stuff and against swearing also be a rapist

shut up netface posted:

If there is a conspiracy, wouldn't "they" bring him down at the peak of his popularity? The only reason that it was brought to massive media attention was because Hannibal Burress referenced the handful of accusations that were largely ignored because, he at the time was still "America's dad". The public could not convince themselves that the kindly goofy black man who plays a doctor on TV (not to mention one of the only black doctors on TV at the time) was raping drugged women in his dressing room, and had been doing so for years. It was like with the Kevin Clash thing. We refused to believe such an innocent figure could commit horrible things.

raditts posted:

Whatever happened with the Kevin Clash thing anyway? Seemed like all the accusations against him vaporized once he decided to step down from doing childrens programming.

Shadoer posted:

I love how explaining why it's a difficult case to prove in a court of law means I'm a rapist and a misogynist. I guess explaining how things worked in Nazi Germany means I'm a nazi too

Danger Mahoney posted:

Out of court settlements for all the families of the children he raped with the understanding that they clam up to the media. Kind of standard procedure.

raditts posted:

This is probably true but it still seems kind of hosed up that you could buy the parents' silence. Like how lovely of a parent do you have to be to accept "oops I raped your kid" money.

raditts posted:

This is probably true but it still seems kind of hosed up that you could buy the parents' silence. Like how lovely of a parent do you have to be to accept "oops I raped your kid" money.

eternalname posted:

As long as the settlement pays for the years of therapy that's what is important.

Shadoer posted:

I love how explaining why it's a difficult case to prove in a court of law means I'm a rapist and a misogynist. I guess explaining how things worked in Nazi Germany means I'm a nazi too

Shadoer posted:

Not really once you look at the cases out in the public.

Assuming the stories published are 100% true, the situations given make it especially hard to prove rape occurred.

Most of the stories floating in the press involve women who were on a romantic date with Cosby, and probably would have slept with him willingly without any date rape drug. In fact, at least one woman claimed that she continued to date Cosby after he raped her. Other stories involve situations like a "party at the Playboy mansion" which most people could imagine casual sex occurring. Or Cosby would do something like outright give them the date rape pill and ask his victim to take it, and they would.

Now, I'm not saying this that these women "asked for it" or it means they are lying. I'm saying that it makes it a difficult case for the prosecutor to pull off.

A prosecutor trying to get a rape conviction, generally needs the following:

- Proof the accused had sex with the victim.
- Proof that it was forced and against the victims will.

The problem is proving that it's forced. They were drugged so no defensive wounds, technology even now isn't that great for picking up date rape drugs, and trying to play the character card won't work because they were in situations where consensual sex was likely. Any of these cases, individually brought forward, would have been thrown out. It's only because of the sheer number of them that any prosecutor could have a chance at getting a conviction as there's a theoretical pattern.

Even then, Cosby already has the narrative built in that he's an rear end in a top hat in relationships. Apparently everyone in comedy knew Cosby was a player and a heartbreaker, so the idea that women would want to take "revenge" against him was already well seeded. It was also known that Cosby had no problem picking up women, so the question of why the hell would he bother to rape these women would also be hanging over any case brought against him.

And it's a pretty good defense honestly. It's hard to explain why someone like Cosby who has tons of success and power would bother date raping women who were already romantically involved with him and would likely have slept with him anyways. That's a pretty high level of "totally hosed up" right there.

IF Cosby is guilty, he had to have given this a good about of thought and likely used his psychological knowledge to keep himself away from any accusations. Each situation, in some way designed to maximize guilt on the part of the victim to prevent himself from getting any fall back and ensure that a prosecutor would have squat to work with.

spooky girlfriend posted:

Shadow posted:

and Charlie Chaplin


that pederast (edit: that's also the correct term for going after young girls post puberty or is that only teenage boy lovin, plz confirm/deny)

Blue Train posted:

That's just tight nubile teenage boy butt lovin