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Lurdiak posted:I don't know, I'm betting lots of evil jerks would like to exist in a world were everything is eternally beautiful and perfect. And I doubt anyone wants to go to any of the hells. ZorbaTHut posted:Mechanus sounds like the most horrifying area in the entire universe. Sheesh. I don't even mind the Evil "heavens" as much as Mechanus.
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The only redeeming factor about Mechanus is that it is apparently full of clockwork automato and gigantic loving gears.
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Ashcans posted:The only redeeming factor about Mechanus is that it is apparently full of clockwork automato and gigantic loving gears. And crazy gravity since each gear pulls towards its surface.
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I'm taking bets on when Rich Burlew kicks the bucket and his son* continues OoTS Dune style *if he does not have one one can be procured evilsake fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 9, 2007 |
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Stick Figure art was just a means to more easily pass the torch. It all makes sense 
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sakesniper posted:I'm taking bets on when Rich Burlew kicks the bucket and his son* continues OoTS Dune style 2. Xykon becomes a Turbo Lich 3. Jews in Space
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Red_Mage posted:1. Xykon gains access to Azure City's wells of power 4. Kevin J Anderson
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New comic! Obligatory if the site goes down: http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07414/OotS291.gif
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Remember how I said Eugene needed a beating? Done and done.
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Oh god that's the biggest and most deserved "gently caress you" i've ever seen. Awesome.
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Man, I thought that was just great and fulfilling. "But...That's not fair!" "No, it IS fair, and that's why you're upset."
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You know I realize that complaining about the art for this comic is sort of ridiculous but I thought the gate looked pretty mediocre. I'm not sure if it's the choppy looking metal or the weird gate opening perspective but it bugs me for some reason.
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Soylentbits posted:You know I realize that complaining about the art for this comic is sort of ridiculous but I thought the gate looked pretty mediocre. I'm not sure if it's the choppy looking metal or the weird gate opening perspective but it bugs me for some reason. Yeah, after some of the scenes in Azure City during the war and such that was a bit underwhelming.
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While I was originally unhappy about the "giant update dump" release scheme that was going on, if it means "have a character be a gigantic rear end for 2 comics, then have him sobbing in his cereal 3 comics later, while we all laugh," it is completely okay with me. Is it bad that I sort of want Elan to die now, so we can see the process of entry to Chaotic Good heaven? "Woo, c'mon in and party man, s'all cool!" "Don't you want to---" "Hey man, par-tay! No rules woo!"
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Choke Babies Now posted:Is it bad that I sort of want Elan to die now, so we can see the process of entry to Chaotic Good heaven? "Woo, c'mon in and party man, s'all cool!" "Don't you want to---" "Hey man, par-tay! No rules woo!" CG heaven is Ysgard so it'll be nice and party-like until the cock crows then he'll find out he has to go fight to the death.
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Halloween Jack posted:A lot of gods have their own personal sub-realm within the alignment realms. But does Banjulhu?
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Strontium posted:But does Banjulhu? I don't even think that "madhouse" is a strong enough word for what that place would be.
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DoctorTristan posted:I wonder if Miko made it into LG heaven; maybe there's another reunion coming up? Soon pretty much said she wasn't going to the same place as them (And her horsie), so I don't think she made it into Lawful Good. I suspect she's kicking around Mechanus in Lawful Neutral land. She really was trying to be lawful, even if she was batshit insane. She sprang to mind when Roy's bureaucratic angel was talking about all that trying stuff. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Oct 11, 2007 |
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MikeJF posted:Soon pretty much said she wasn't going to the same place as them (And her horsie), so I don't think she made it into Lawful Good. I suspect she's kicking around Mechanus in Lawful Neutral land. She really was trying to be lawful, even if she was batshit insane. She sprang to mind when Roy's bureaucratic angel was talking about all that trying stuff. Soon said she wasn't a paladin. She could have still made it if only for story potential. What happens to married couples of different alignments when they die? They can't visit each other or anything?
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Soylentbits posted:What happens to married couples of different alignments when they die? They can't visit each other or anything? It's "until death do we part," so I guess it's possible.
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Didn't Soon say that Miko's mount would try to visit her or something? It would be weird if a mount was allowed to visit its ex-paladin master, but you couldn't visit your wife.
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# 492 is up http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0492.html That's my kind of afterlife.
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Wow, that was fast. And here I really thought the ominous prediction would come true. The prediction made by whoever it was that, by actually trying to enter the afterlife, Roy would have given up his quest, and would then be put back in limbo, as he would not be truly lawful. But this is pretty hilarious, too. I do not actually know if the server GETS hammered anymore, but here is the strip anyway: 
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Link for when the site goes down. drat you! I'm wondering where the one night stands come from, and the people who always lose debates. Surely that isn't their heaven.
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Yea to be honest getting to bear on monsters and get pick up a chick, eat, and crash with your family sounds a little more like Ysgard of whatever the fake Valhalla is. I know that LG characters still tend to kill a lot (more than some alignments!) but I always thought that it was on the basis of some sort of justification. IE, that in the ideal you don't kill anyone. Its weird to have spawned dungeons in a heaven.
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Ashcans posted:Yea to be honest getting to bear on monsters and get pick up a chick, eat, and crash with your family sounds a little more like Ysgard of whatever the fake Valhalla is. I know that LG characters still tend to kill a lot (more than some alignments!) but I always thought that it was on the basis of some sort of justification. IE, that in the ideal you don't kill anyone. Its weird to have spawned dungeons in a heaven. Its not real one night stands/monster slaying/etc. Its all just pretend to pass the eternity. There. Perfectly justified.
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Ashcans posted:Didn't Soon say that Miko's mount would try to visit her or something? It would be weird if a mount was allowed to visit its ex-paladin master, but you couldn't visit your wife. I'm pretty sure it's because Windstriker is a magical horse- it already planeshifts and lives on the celestial realms or something. I don't think that Miko could visit Windstriker, but Windstriker is a native so he can do all kinds of stuff. Noonsaliwah fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Oct 12, 2007 |
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Ashcans posted:Didn't Soon say that Miko's mount would try to visit her or something? It would be weird if a mount was allowed to visit its ex-paladin master, but you couldn't visit your wife. Well obviously this OotS afterlife is a little different than standard DnD afterlife, but in DnD the River Styx travels through all of the planes, although it's called Lethe in the upper ones. One touch of it's waters will erase all your memories and create you as a bank slate. From there you become a petitioner and start a new life serve your god as your ego slowly fades away over the centuries, to the point where your sense of self disappears and you become one with the plane. Obviously if your characters expects a res he can hold off drinking the water.
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farraday posted:I'm wondering where the one night stands come from, and the people who always lose debates. Surely that isn't their heaven. Gassire posted:Well obviously this OotS afterlife is a little different than standard DnD afterlife, but in DnD the River Styx travels through all of the planes, although it's called Lethe in the upper ones. One touch of it's waters will erase all your memories and create you as a bank slate. From there you become a petitioner and start a new life serve your god as your ego slowly fades away over the centuries, to the point where your sense of self disappears and you become one with the plane. Obviously if your characters expects a res he can hold off drinking the water.
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MikeJF posted:Soon pretty much said she wasn't going to the same place as them (And her horsie), so I don't think she made it into Lawful Good. I suspect she's kicking around Mechanus in Lawful Neutral land. She really was trying to be lawful, even if she was batshit insane. She sprang to mind when Roy's bureaucratic angel was talking about all that trying stuff. There are 7 different levels/subplanes to Mount Celestia (the "seven heavens"); I think Paladins typically go to a different level than others. This is probably what Soon meant; she's just going to a lower level of Celestia than the rest of the Saphire Guard.
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Gassire posted:From there you become a petitioner and start a new life serve your god as your ego slowly fades away over the centuries, to the point where your sense of self disappears and you become one with the plane. Jesus, even the good DnD afterlife sounds horrible.
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RentACop posted:Jesus, even the good DnD afterlife sounds horrible. If I remember right pcs have it a little different, they can retain some of their memory on a more permanent basis. Mainly because their god needs heroes to act as officers in their army. Evil is much worse, when you die no matter your alignment you end up in the NE wastes as a foot long maggot that Night Hags herd and corral to sell to the Demons and Devils to make more Demons and Devils. Neutral people are a little trickier, noone goes to Mechanus or Limbo when they die. It's determined by whether your sell fell closer to good or evil on the axis. To get an idea of the outer planes imagine a compass, the 16 cardinal points would each point to a plane.
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Gassire posted:Well obviously this OotS afterlife is a little different than standard DnD afterlife, but in DnD the River Styx travels through all of the planes, although it's called Lethe in the upper ones. One touch of it's waters will erase all your memories and create you as a bank slate. From there you become a petitioner and start a new life serve your god as your ego slowly fades away over the centuries, to the point where your sense of self disappears and you become one with the plane. Obviously if your characters expects a res he can hold off drinking the water. Gassire posted:If I remember right pcs have it a little different, they can retain some of their memory on a more permanent basis. Mainly because their god needs heroes to act as officers in their army. Evil is much worse, when you die no matter your alignment you end up in the NE wastes as a foot long maggot that Night Hags herd and corral to sell to the Demons and Devils to make more Demons and Devils. Neutral people are a little trickier, noone goes to Mechanus or Limbo when they die. It's determined by whether your sell fell closer to good or evil on the axis. To get an idea of the outer planes imagine a compass, the 16 cardinal points would each point to a plane. Wow, they've changed the cosmology a lot since 2e Planescape. Where is this info about the new purpose of the River Styx and the lack of Limbo/Mechanus petitioners from? I didn't remember seeing that in the Manual of the Planes.
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