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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


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Gen Con Indy. July 30 - August 2, 2020
(Event Submission January 12, Badge Registration January 26, Event Registration May 17)

"The Best Four Days in Gaming."

Gamer Mecca. Gamer mecha. Gamer mecca-lecca-hi, mecca-hiney-ho. A Gay Mer-MAGA.

The most important thing to know about Gen-Con is that it lives up to the hype*. No matter what you have heard about it, it is not exaggerated.



Crowds awaiting entry to the Exhibition Hall


Everywhere you look, there are nerds. The convention center and the surrounding blocks are jam-packed with nerdy activities, nerdy costumes, nerd-themed restaurants and coffee shops, and most importantly in my opinion, nerdy joy.

The most surprising thing about attending a huge nerd convention for me is that even background chatter and smalltalk becomes enthralling, as suddenly everyone around is much more likely to share your interests than anywhere else you go. This naturally lends itself to a willingness to chat and make spontaneous friends even amongst people who are generally disinterested in such things the rest of the year, as it is hard for even a jaded monster like myself to stand in stone silence when the people behind me in line are discussing the nuances of games that most Americans have never encountered, let alone spent time contemplating.

But! What do you actually do once you are there? Well, besides taking in the infinite sights and sounds and donuts, you can check the event listing categories to get an idea of the range of events. When you realize every category has hundreds or thousands of events, you start to understand the scope of the show. Even a newcomer probably knows there will be role-playing and boardgame events, but when you realize there are three different categories just involving "doing something with miniatures" (which, now that I think of it, is truly a grognard-driven distinction), you get a sense of how much is going on at Gen-Con that you will never actually see even if you try. Even if you only like one tiny obscure niche type of game, there is probably a world championship of that game taking place at Gen-Con.



=-=-=
And now, Corporal Lou Zocchi of Gamescience dressed as a killer clown performing a musical solo on a handsaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zuU8DUqFm8
=-=-=

Specific Goon-favorite activities include
  • Shots Wednesday, which, well, cannot be easily described, other than to say "Rathskeller, endless towers of shots, more Goons than you realized could possibly be attending, secret bonus table of teetotalers eating soft pretzels"
  • The Auction/Auction [Consignment] Store, which has both the best deals and the rarest things for sale at the entirety of the convention, particularly now that nearly every used gaming store has stopped coming to the Exhibition Hall. Of particularly note is the Friday night "crème de la crème" Auction nearly always featuring things that are virtually impossible to find, the Saturday afternoon/evening T.O.V.A. (Toys/Oddities/Video [Games]/Art) Auction generally featuring your very own Dr. Quarex and occasional incoherent-scream-bidding on absurd items from other Goons, and the final segment of the show, the Charity Auction, where you have a decent chance of shaming other people into spending hundreds of dollars on something worth $20 if you are into the shaming scene.
  • Talking about BEE MAN
  • Using GroupMe (get the APPPPP or just use GroupMe.com and then click here to join the GenGoons group!) to arrange constant spontaneous gaming sessions throughout the entire range of Wednesday - Sunday (and sometimes even Tuesday - Monday!)
  • Probably something else I dunno
Pictured:
GameScience in Full Glory, Finding Will Call, Just Abraham Lincoln, Even "Irish" Pubs Can Get Down, Custom Nerdy Menus: Just A Fact Of Life


And now, a word from the most genuinely surprising part of the Gen-Con Terms of Service

"I acknowledge and agree that the Convention involves some inherently dangerous activities.... I acknowledge and agree that the Convention involves potential risks of serious personal injury, disability, or even death."

Gen-Con, I am really not sure that I acknowledge and agree here

Here is 2019's housing registration explanation video; somehow I doubt much will change, though if they post a new one for 2020 I will dutifully update this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVxowlXXiHI#t=128s

-~=~- Intermission -~=~-


(The guy in the chair being carried was in 2002; the players had to prove they could carry another player this way in-game; the guy being lifted infamously ran over to me, inexplicably humiliated, after the picture was taken, and offered me $20 if I would let him destroy my $500 camera)
-~=~-

Anyway, no matter how I organize these posts it is always terrible, so I will just close this introductory text with CellBlock's succinct summary about his 2012 experiences, as a vision of what Gen-Con might be like for you:

CellBlock 2013 posted:

Holy balls is Gen Con cool, though. You really can find pretty much whatever you want to do going on in some way. Want to just booster draft M:tG for days on end? That's going on! Want to get into a weekend-long game of Arkham Horror with all the expansions? Someone from Fantasy Flight is probably facilitating that! Last year, I learned how to play Diplomacy, participated in a role play of the Cold War (I was an Israeli ambassador), played some games of Werewolf in the convention center lobby, and found a random group of people playing The Resistance in the game library that needed more players and played with them well into the wee hours of Friday night/Saturday morning.
ON TO THE NEXTT POSTTttttttttttt

rip crazy egor's omg



Final general advice from Deviant

Deviant posted:

i will find you.

don't make me find you.


*Gen-Con Online excluded

Dr. Quarex fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 11, 2020

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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


GENERAL "HOW TO GEN-CON" POST

You might want to consider bringing:
  • Messenger bags instead of backpacks, considering the frequency of people getting backpacked in the face by someone turning quickly in the Exhibit Hall. A dozen fanny packs would also be an acceptable alternative.
  • Cash! Yes, in this era of mobile credit card readers I think every vendor takes credit cards, but there are still cash discounts in some places, notably at the Auction/Auction Store
  • No (gaming) books: You would either carry them around with you everywhere and hate the extra weight or leave them in your hotel and then why did you bring them?
  • Chargers/battoriieez (phone, tablet, laptop, slapchop)
  • "Googies," Mom's aphasiac word for "snacks to eat on the go"
  • Hand sanitizer FOR EMERGENCIES
  • Notepads(tm) (hey, I take notes on my phone too, but sometimes paper comes up in gaming)
  • Pens/pencils/pincels
  • Black AND Silver(!) Sharpies for autographs on light or dark surfaces(!!!)
  • YOUR MEDICINE/PAINKILLERS/BANDAGES/INSULIN/TESTOSTERONE/GOLD-PRESSED LATINUM
  • Probably some insoles or gel inserts or foam blocks to walk on or whatever
  • Collapsible/lightweight water bottle with flavored beverage pouches
  • Splenda, mayonnaise, and hot sauce packets: The Condiment Trifecta



You might want to consider eating (vaguely listed by distance, and not listing places not specifically recommended by Goons in previous years)
  • The Food Trucks on Georgia Street Are Closest I Guess!
  • Fat Rooster Diner in the Hyatt has an astoundingly good and cheap (and seemingly under-the-radar) lunch buffet, including a cooked-to-order pasta man, and though they told us in 2018 they were doing a reduced menu in 2019 it was barely any different
  • The Ram (brewpub with gamer-themed menu, though always too full and not nearly as unique an experience as it was in like 2003)
  • Ruth's Chris Steakhouse is great, though Lawen would kill me if I did not mention St. Elmo Steakhouse in the same breath as it is the Indianapolis Tradition
  • And speaking of St. Elmo, Harry & Izzy's, as Mudcrab Merchant points out, is basically the food from St. Elmo's (next door) but at a fraction of the price, and was probably my favorite Gen-Con eating spot UNTIL
  • Sugarfire Smokehouse opened up, because AHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO EAT IT ALL THE TIME EVERYTHING IS SO GOOD AND YOU CAN GET A SHAKE WITH A WHOLE PIE SLICE BLENDED IN
  • Not sure how I forgot to add Loughmiller's Pub in the original version of this post, given that Backno has been a tireless advocate of its goodness, closeness, and emptiness-considering-proximityness over the years.
  • Patachou (closes at like 3 P.M., but legitimately amazing quality breakfast/lunch)
  • STEAK 'N' SHAKE BECAUSE I AM FROM NORMAL, ILLINOIS AND I WILL BE PROUD OF OUR HOMETOWN CREATION UNTIL THE DAY I DIE
  • CellBlock cannot recommmend Primanti Bros. enough; a deli where their thing is putting all the sides on the sandwich instead of on ... the side.
  • Conan the Librarian says Pearings Cafe has the best breakfast crepes and coffee!
  • The Eiteljorg Museum's café, Reynold's choice for good southwestern-style food and craft beer, and never crowded (museum admission not required)
  • Fogo de Chão, literally the most overwhelming culinary experience you can probably get in the area (Brazilian steakhouse, kinda pronounced "Fogo zhe Shown" by the way). Also guaranteed to make you feel 100% like an elitist rear end in a top hat when you see the other clientele
  • Punch Bowl Social, highly recommended by Lawen and Dr. Gargunza
  • Slippery Noodle, Maigius' recommendation for a local hangout with heckin' chonkersize portions of food and just far enough away to not be crowded I think
  • Maxine's Chicken and Waffles comes recommended by Elephant Ambush as the best breakfast in Indianapolis.
  • Milktooth, suggested by DJFooBoo as the "head chef is a James Beard award winner who focuses on breakfast/brunch. Holy poo poo you should eat there dumbass!"
  • Kuma's Corner; TheIronJef reminded us last year that its burgers may actually be good enough to justify the trip
  • The Rathskeller has excellent German food and ??beer?? and is both ironically the farthest-away place and also the most likely for people reading this list to visit, as it is the home of our kickoff gathering SHOTS WEDNESDAY



You might want to consider considering:
  • Some sort of catchy numeric rule reminding you to sleep, eat, and shower. "5/3/1" is common, referring to hours, meals, and showers respectively, and some literal buffoons promote 3/2/1, but just try to find someone sleeping 3 hours a night at a convention who is not dead on his (yes always his) feet by halfway through and quite certainly getting basically no enjoyment out of those couple extra hours a day
  • Walking more in your everyday life. This will either sound obvious to you as you have been to a convention before or will make you say "why?" if you have not. My first Gen-Con, I basically wanted to stop walking forever by Sunday as my feet hurt aplenty; by the time I went back I had held a job where I walked 7-8 miles a day and my feet hurt precisely not at all by Sunday. Though that may be a bit extreme.
  • Bringing """layers""" if you are at all prone to being cold in air-conditioned environments! I have literally never once wished I had extra clothing at Gen-Con, but I am also literally a frost giant. It certainly does get colder in the convention center in the evenings once the crush of humanity has departed.



SPECIFIC AUCTION SECTION

This is kind of My Thing, since I have been an obsessive superfan of the Auction for about 15 years and an auctioneer for about half as long, so I might as well try to hype people up as usual (particularly because the Auction is very overlooked for a huge convention-long event right across from the Exhibit Hall)



Everyone wishes the schedule were available before the show started, but in lieu of that ever being possible, please enjoy and absorb previous years' schedules to get a sense of when things generally happen





People ask what kinds of things are sold at the Auction...well, in 2018 a madman made a database where you can investigate the question for yourself (the main issue I see immediately is that Charity items must not be included, considering a set of meteorite dice went for like $6,000 in 2018): https://public.tableau.com/profile/...lysis/Dashboard



This is the Auction online pre-registration form if you want to get ready to fill it out months ahead of time


Finally, I will link a random YouTube playlist I made of really, really not that interesting Gen-Con related clips; it helps that most of them are from the days before my camera, be it a phone or a camera, could take more than 15-second-long video. It does have a clip of the Exhibit Hall being quiet for the Gary Gygax memorial minute, some Gygax Memorial Auction segments, and Auctioneer Josh selling the infamous "box of VHS tape porn" though, so it is not all bad.



Last year I lost my mind more than usual and systematically found every previous Gen-Con thread from these Forums:

Archives needed:
Gen Con Indy 2003 Thread Attempt~ #1: Please Sir, Please Help Me Obtain A Hotel Room
Gen Con Indy 2003 Thread Attempt #2: Hero Lab Existed In 2003?
Gen Con Indy 2004 Thread Attempt #1: Rhandhalized
Gen Con Indy 2004 Thread Attempt #2: A Second Rhandhali Post Has Hit The Forums
Gen Con Indy 2004: Actually Just A Thread About An NPR Story On Gen Con
Gen Con SO CAL(!) 2004: This Does Not Mean It Was Real!
Gen Con Indy 2005 Thread Attempt #1: Space Pope, Over And Out
Gen Con Indy 2005 Computer Game Interview Request Thread In Games Proper: Ends With A Milwaukeean's Lament
Gen Con Indy 2005 Thread Attempt #2: Three. Posts.
Gen Con Indy 2006: Vaguely Resembling A Successful Thread
Gen Con Indy 2007, Kind Of: Quarex Seeks to Understand the Differences Between Gen-Con, Origins, and DragonCon Like Some Pathetic Churl
Gen Con Indy 2007, Kind Of, Redux: Seorin Wants Spoilers
Gen Con Indy 2008: Truly The Saddest Official Thread Ever
Gen Con Paris 2009: Did Not Actually Happen
Gen Con Indy 2009: Well, They Tried
Gen Con Indy 2010 Thread Attempt #1: Title Mocking Indiana, Thread Bad
Gen Con Indy 2010 Thread Attempt #2: Title Also Mocking Indiana, Thread Also Bad; Coincidence?
Gen Con Indy 2011 More Just A Post About A D&D Tournament There
Gen Con Indy 2012: Indianapolis Tragically Washed Away By Tidal Wave
Gen Con Indy 2013: Gen Con Relocates To Lemuria For Better Downtown Hotel Coverage

Archives no longer needed:
Gen Con Indy 2014: The Final Chapter
Gen Con Indy 2015 and Gen Con 2015 Part Two: 2016: The Final Chapter
Gen Con Indy 2017: Celebrating 50 Glorious Years Of The Tet Offensive
Gen Con Indy 2018: Might Be Still Going On, Not Sure
Gen Con Indy 2019: This One Is Definitely Still Going On, includes a brief history of Gen Con in the first post if you are into that kind of thing



It is adorable looking back to posts in 2013 hoping to get some kind of planned Goon Meet going, as opposed to our like constant five days of Goon Meets by 2015.

I REALIZE I HAVE BARELY TALKED ABOUT EVENTS. Here is the thing: Other than Gen Con 50 and its panoply of legendary panels, I realized like a decade ago that events are just simply not something I want to spend time doing at Gen-Con, as there is too much else going on. But I finally realized this year that I never talk about this HUGE PART OF THE CONVENTION in these posts, so here at least is YA GIRL NELLY, SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON with an amazing video walking you through the whole process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6AiO6HDBYo

Another more recent video showing advanced pro group-event-building strategies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySmbygu2wdY

And fine I will also link Nelly's GEN-CON NEWBIE GUIDE VIDEO because I do cherish Nelly and I have no doubt at least a handful of people reading this have never attended before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZJ2NiCan8

Dr. Quarex fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Feb 18, 2020

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


Rather than pretending I am reserving the third post for anything, I will just make it a random post, ensuring that I will suddenly wish I had reserved another post.

After repeatedly seeing this thread-famous comic in examining the old threads...



...I wondered if he actually did any other Gen Con comics, and actually found three others. One was not even tagged as "Gen Con" in his tagging system, so you are looking at some real deep cuts here. And uh... yeah you can see why the bathroom one is the one that got traction, but still these are important to your Gen-Conification





Actually though if you feel like wearing that outfit you really should go for it



Anyway I am going to occasionally just post random Gen-Con pictures going forward rather than adding another 100 to these posts. Though here have some more


thanks for that second one Google auto-Photos



Like every year, I am surely forgetting to talk about some huge segment of what Gen-Con is. Which, again, see the first points of the first post, further highlights how Gen-Con is THE BIGGEST AND BEST THING. But part of why I am so dedicated to actually getting this posted over a month before registration begins is so I can actually fix these oversights ahead of time rather than being like "hey everybody here is the thread, so uh registration was last week, sorry"

Erainor
Dec 30, 2017

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Getting in on the ground floor!

You crazy man, you actually got it out in December

Eastmabl
Jan 29, 2019


Erainor posted:

Getting in on the ground floor!

You crazy man, you actually got it out in December

Is it too early to freak out about the housing lottery?

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

"Imagination is not enough. You have to have knowledge too, and an experience of the oddity of life."


Eastmabl posted:

Is it too early to freak out about the housing lottery?

For our second year our small group is already making our plans.

Super stoked for more gencon

Yiggy fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Dec 12, 2019

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


Erainor posted:

You crazy man, you actually got it out in December
I did. I knew the day would come. I actually am not entirely sure why the day was today, though I have to give a random shout-out to Rosalind in the PAX Unplugged thread for mentioning having tried and failed to come to Gen-Con a few years ago, which made me think WHAT IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE FORUMS WHO NEED A REMINDER TO GO RIGHT NOW

Eastmabl posted:

Is it too early to freak out about the housing lottery?
It is always a good time to panic.

Yiggy posted:

Super stoked for more gencon
WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE OF IT

Maigius
Jun 29, 2013




I've been staring at the list of TOVA items, trying to come up make the Twelve Days of Gencon, and there are no items that start with 9.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.


nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Excellent first posts as always, Quarex.

Going to use this one to both promote the Gen Con Programs project and as a reminder to myself to try and find some time at work to update it. I haven't had a chance to do more with it since the 50th, but I need to talk to Gen Con to get more data and do some research stuff with it.

On this site, you can look at all of the events from the first 50 Gen Cons so you can get a good idea of what people do there. It also has some oral histories I conducted with people from various parts of Gen Con's existence, and a little bit of baby research I did just to show what you can do with the data there:

http://best50yearsingaming.com/

I'm going to plug one exhibit in particular that examined the change in how many women were running events at Gen Con. It's getting better, but we can do better still!
http://best50yearsingaming.com/exhi...es/leadinggames



Backno
Dec 1, 2007

Goff Boyz iz da rudest Boyz

SKA SUCKS


You forgot to mention the OG Goon spot :Loughmiller's. While being next door to the convention center, almost never as crowded as it should be. Standard pub fair, good beer selection.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Loughmiller's let me down hard GC2019. We went there Friday or Saturday night (I forget which) for food with my booth staff to unwind after a long day of slinging bees, and not only did it take forever to get a seat (people just wouldn't leave even though they were done eating and not gaming) but once we did sit down they almost immediately started a live band that was waaaay too loud. The waitress sucked too, but she may have just been having a bad day. I dunno, I'll try them again but I know my booth staff have sworn them off for good.

Backno
Dec 1, 2007

Goff Boyz iz da rudest Boyz

SKA SUCKS


nesbit37 posted:

Loughmiller's let me down hard GC2019. We went there Friday or Saturday night (I forget which) for food with my booth staff to unwind after a long day of slinging bees, and not only did it take forever to get a seat (people just wouldn't leave even though they were done eating and not gaming) but once we did sit down they almost immediately started a live band that was waaaay too loud. The waitress sucked too, but she may have just been having a bad day. I dunno, I'll try them again but I know my booth staff have sworn them off for good.

That's fair. I think they suffer from being a small staff mostly focused on lunches for the Indiana government employees that are across the street. Then here come this event that makes em a bunch of cash. Try again during lunch time and see if you get a better experience.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.



I uh went last year after posting in the thread and occasionally making GBS threads up the groupme but then I got sidetracked by the LITERALLY EVERYTHING and met up with zero goons, next time I will see all you nerds

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!



Planning on going this year for the first time.

Losem
Jun 17, 2003
Slightly Angry Sheep

I vow this year to be more reasonable with my purchases and not to buy all the deck builders... Also I learned my lesson to make sure I have my number with me when browsing the consignment shop. Left it in my bag last year and I missed out of millennium blades with a bunch of expansions going for $27.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






I went to the auction for the first time last year and boy was it fun and had a lot of good deals. Ran like a well oiled machine as well and I got to watch the auctioneer verbally dismantle someone trying to bid by shouting out their number instead of showing their placard. I can't believe this is the first time you've ever mentioned the auction, Quarex.

Some personal suggestions!

-A backpack is much better IF you're not buying a ton of things and filling it so full that you're hitting people when turning, like Quarex said. I have a smaller one that fits everything I need just fine without being a nuisance.

-Call your bank if you do decide to buy stuff at the vendor hall with a card. You WILL get flagged and declined then need to call your bank three times so they know that your card isn't stolen. Ask me about last year! This happens because the vendors themselves are based out of whatever country/state and the bank just sees your card getting charged in two different parts of the world at once.

-There is a "quiet room" somewhere in the ICC, usually in a place far off from the hustle and bustle. If you're having a hard time with anxiety or similar, you can go there and relax. Low lights and silence. There are also donated toiletries and snacks if you need something. I forgot to put on deodarent one day so I popped over and grabbed a little travel size one because I'm not disgusting. They accept cash donations and also replacement items.

-The arcade loving sucks, don't give them any money.

-For your tickets and badges, Will Call is better depending on when you arrive. My first year we got there Thursday morning and it was five minutes long. The previous two years (this year we had them mailed) we got there Wednesday and the line was at least 45 minutes, even sometime after midnight. I now prefer getting everything mailed and checking every thirty seconds before leaving to make sure we have the tickets. If you forget them YOU ARE hosed unless someone can get into your house and overnight them.

-If it's your first time, don't go hog wild on events. I felt so lost the first year even with friends to guide me. Buy yourself some generic tickets to slide into random stuff, and maybe schedule a couple things if you like them. I highly recommend anything One Shot does, even System Mastery. If you're lucky, Jim McClure will use your water bottle for a wrestling themed bit and after that you're basically famous.

-The connected hotels and the ICC have water dispensers so keep your bottles full instead of just buying new ones.

-If someone offers you Malort and you're not a teetotaller, take the drink. Ignore what anyone says beforehand.

+SHOTS WEDNESDAY

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


LOUGHMILLER'S PUB ADDED BACKNO, no clue how I missed that in the "just places people promote" revamp

*sage nod, oddities, videos, and art*

nesbit37 posted:

Excellent first posts as always, Quarex.
Thanks, and yes do advertise your sweet linkz, always a good page to examine. I probably would have mentioned it eventually even if you had not!

SolusLunes posted:

I uh went last year after posting in the thread and occasionally making GBS threads up the groupme but then I got sidetracked by the LITERALLY EVERYTHING and met up with zero goons, next time I will see all you nerds
It happens. I got all the "huh I probably should have said hello to some Goons, oops" out of my system by like 2010, though that is part of why I eventually started posting these threads, to UNIFY THE WARRING TRIBES

King Burgundy posted:

Planning on going this year for the first time.
BUR-GUN-DY! BUR-GUN-DY! BUR-GUN-DY!

You can join the GroupMe anytime if you like, though certainly the conversation is only about 10% about Gen-Con before registration starts, then it slowly accelerates until by July it is 95% Gen-Con 5% Malort

Losem posted:

I learned my lesson to make sure I have my number with me when browsing the consignment shop. Left it in my bag last year and I missed out of millennium blades with a bunch of expansions going for $27.
Yeah it is always advisable to carry your bidder card on you at all times, though do not be like me and then have it fall out of your back pocket immediately and have to replace it. Uh, I think I did that twice before I realized maybe my back pocket was not a safe place to store it

Admiral Joeslop posted:

I went to the auction for the first time last year and boy was it fun and had a lot of good deals. Ran like a well oiled machine as well and I got to watch the auctioneer verbally dismantle someone trying to bid by shouting out their number instead of showing their placard. I can't believe this is the first time you've ever mentioned the auction, Quarex.

-For your tickets and badges, Will Call is better depending on when you arrive. My first year we got there Thursday morning and it was five minutes long. The previous two years (this year we had them mailed) we got there Wednesday and the line was at least 45 minutes, even sometime after midnight. I now prefer getting everything mailed and checking every thirty seconds before leaving to make sure we have the tickets. If you forget them YOU ARE hosed unless someone can get into your house and overnight them.

-If it's your first time, don't go hog wild on events. I felt so lost the first year even with friends to guide me. Buy yourself some generic tickets to slide into random stuff, and maybe schedule a couple things if you like them.
Someday I will remember to mention the Auction

Some of the most entertaining moments at the Auction proper are when a bidder goes rogue, for sure. But if you are the least bit interested in finding out-of-print/uncommon/older gaming and gaming-adjacent things, the Auction really is the place to be. Also in theory I am working both T.O.V.A. and the Charity Auction this year, but you know, things change!

Also the prevailing theory on Will Call is that when the lines are long, you should do Will Call the next year, as people will be fed up with the lines and have the badges shipped to them. I believe I heard they were a bit long last year, so clearly you can do Will Call for 2020!

Generic Tickets are a great idea certainly, though interestingly they are going away once every event is e-ticketed in a few years. Though I still imagine this will instantly drop the average age of someone running a game by like 15 years, for better or worse.

But yeah, overscheduling can always be a problem, and for some people underscheduling is just as big a problem. Nobody enjoys feeling like they are constantly running from one event from the other and never getting a chance to engage in all the nebulous floating fun going on all around them, and certainly there are people who feel completely disconnected from the fun if they do not have some structure to their day. Then there are

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






How will pickup games work then? Just buy an e ticket while you're standing at the table?

Eastmabl
Jan 29, 2019


Backno posted:

You forgot to mention the OG Goon spot :Loughmiller's. While being next door to the convention center, almost never as crowded as it should be. Standard pub fair, good beer selection.

Last time I was there, they had their own horseradish vodka that really opened up the sinuses.

Eastmabl
Jan 29, 2019


Admiral Joeslop posted:

How will pickup games work then? Just buy an e ticket while you're standing at the table?

Isn't that the dream?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






I won't argue there, the olds can get out of the way of progress.

Maybe spruce up the Wi-Fi a bit at the ICC.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 1, 2004

The Oath Breaker's about to hit warphead nine Kaptain!


Dr. Quarex posted:

But yeah, overscheduling can always be a problem, and for some people underscheduling is just as big a problem. Nobody enjoys feeling like they are constantly running from one event from the other and never getting a chance to engage in all the nebulous floating fun going on all around them, and certainly there are people who feel completely disconnected from the fun if they do not have some structure to their day.

My favorite thing of GenCon (Besides food trucks. And goons. Whatever, shut up, just listen.) is Indie Games On Demand. You can find out more about 'em here but the short explanation is that they're in the Hyatt, they run about every two hours or so, and you just need generics. Show up, get a boarding pass, wait a little while and then pick your game!

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012



Hi, Forums Poster Carteret here to recommend you get your badge and tickets mailed to you if you are at all a functioning adult. Your time is worth more than the minimal fee you pay in postage. Put your poo poo in your suitcase the day it arrives. Get your life together. Don't forget the most important thing you need at the convention besides your wallet (ZachAttack).

GENCON!

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Since I exhibit I have to do special willcall, but if I ever go back to regular attendee I think I will still do willcall. I am just too paranoid about leaving it at home.

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004



Oh poo poo, it's time to start thinking about GenCon again!

M a x
Apr 7, 2004

Sing for the flames that will rip through here


Lipstick Apathy

Wait is it not normal to always be thinking about gencon?

Double Agent
Mar 28, 2005

Maybe we're not just a bunch of frak-ups after all.


There's just something endearing about being drunk as hell at 2 am, waiting in line to get your badge at Gencon.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.


Double Agent posted:

There's just something endearing about being drunk as hell at 2 am, waiting in line to get your badge at Gencon.

I mean sure sympathizing with and having other positive feelings towards your captor is the definition of stockholm syndrome

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






I don't think about Gencon, I live it.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


Admiral Joeslop posted:

I won't argue there, the olds can get out of the way of progress.

Maybe spruce up the Wi-Fi a bit at the ICC.
I think after that lawsuit over them intentionally blocking wireless signals or whatever that the wireless situation is definitely improved. Or something. I barely remember where I am

And I am certainly torn, because generic tickets are adorably 1970s (or whenever they started) but it is hard to argue with how much more efficient a system e-tickets represent. It would be even more efficient if we all just used our VR headsets to play together instead of going to Gen-Con though, I mean, think about it

BlackIronHeart posted:

My favorite thing of GenCon (Besides food trucks. And goons. Whatever, shut up, just listen.) is Indie Games On Demand. You can find out more about 'em here but the short explanation is that they're in the Hyatt, they run about every two hours or so, and you just need generics. Show up, get a boarding pass, wait a little while and then pick your game!
I did this one year when I was trying to impress someone who was running a game, and it actually was pretty fun. CAN RECOMMEND IF YOU ARE INTO PLAYING GAMES

Necronomicon posted:

Oh poo poo, it's time to start thinking about GenCon again!

M a x posted:

Wait is it not normal to always be thinking about gencon?

Admiral Joeslop posted:

I don't think about Gencon, I live it.
These three quotes actually kind of cover my own thoughts about Gen-Con on basically any given day.

There is probably a time I do not think about Gen-Con much if at all, but it is seriously limited to like "the period after I book my room for the next year in August and before I start thinking about posting the thread for the next year in September"

Double Agent posted:

There's just something endearing about being drunk as hell at 2 am, waiting in line to get your badge at Gencon.
Fellis' point about Stockholm Syndrome notwithstanding, if you are going to wait in line at Will Call the preferred way to do it is definitely to be impaired in one fashion or another; I preferred "just being so tired everything was hilarious" myself the last time I actually was in charge of my own badge instead of having someone hand me one clandestinely in the Auction room.



M a x
Apr 7, 2004

Sing for the flames that will rip through here


Lipstick Apathy

I spent probably too much time my first gencon just going around the game library and taking pictures of silly box covers of old board games.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Not entirely sure there is a wrong way to spend your Gen Con other than not being at Gen Con, honestly.

Quarex, something to add to one of your first 3 posts maybe are Nellie's videos of her experiences at the past like 8 Gen Cons?

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


nesbit37 posted:

Not entirely sure there is a wrong way to spend your Gen Con other than not being at Gen Con, honestly.
Agreed, and I actually am now mystified that I have not spent more time doing what M a x did, considering the joy I have gotten (obviously) from terrible or at least disturbingly memorable board game boxes. I used to just bid on them if I found them hilarious, but that led to me staring at a pile of games like "Lilly's Purple Plastic Purse" and "Beat the Devil: The Christian Game of Christian Game Christgames for Christian Gamerchrists" or something when I had to move by myself once and thinking "as someone who never plays board games, maybe I should stop buying them"

nesbit37 posted:

Quarex, something to add to one of your first 3 posts maybe are Nellie's videos of her experiences at the past like 8 Gen Cons?
What, just because I love Nelly like I love David the Gnome, you think I should feature her? Oh, yeah, actually, good point

Maybe I will put her 2014 and 2019 wrap day videos for contrast, considering in 2014 she was like CANNOT WAIT TO GO DO IT AGAIN BETTER and 2019 was like WELP ALL IS LOST

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.



It’s almost as if you want your avatar vandalized

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.


ohhhh nooo how could this have happened

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


hahahahahahhaahhaha

This is only the second time I have had this happen to me, and a touch less angry than the first time (I do not remember the context beyond me telling someone in like 2005 that something was not funny, but the avatar was a dumb picture and the text was like "IS THIS ONE FUNNY DIPSHIT" and I remember almost keeping it since the comma splice made it sound like the avatar was questioning if I were a funny dipshit)

Needless to say this one clearly gets to stay

MinisterSinister
Dec 17, 2019


I've lived in Indiana all my life and I've never been to Gen Con.

Unfortunately I grew up in rural bumfuck Indiana where there aren't a lot of nerds of any stripe -unless you consider redneck potheads to be nerds- so that is probably why.

I'm definitely going to the next one though.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






The only good thing about living in Indiana is being close to Gencon.

Granted, we're still three hours away but that's practically nothing!

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nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Gary con has a hotel debacle this year that may top Gen Cons. The main hotel where the convention is sold out on minutes last march. Yesterday, for a mystery reason, they started sending people emails that they were being booted to another hotel 1.5 miles away. Supposedly this was for some error the hotel didnt notice for about 20 minutes, but people that booked seconds after the block opened are reporting getting the boot. Its indisciminent, vendors, people with accessibility issues, the people that run miniature games with Tupperware upon Tupperware of figures and terrain. Hundreds have posted on facebook complaining about it and to top it off the hotel is not apologizing in any way and generally being dicks about it. Gary con is less than 3 months away.

Edit: also if you dont confirm the new or old booking by 12/30 they will cancel everything on you. This is all in an email that is going to spam for many people.

Link to official post about this for the curious: https://www.facebook.com/groups/583...57910348337370/

nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Dec 17, 2019

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