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Sent you a PM about it, but another thing is that I think you'll need at least a week between stuff or you still run the same risk of burn out - six hours of any kind of wrestling over a two day period risks overkill, no matter how good the matches.
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HulkaMatt posted:The result of the 3 stages of Hell match pissed me off so much that I never watched it again. As far as I'm concerned that match is poo poo. Whats going on here? What result? Hunter going over?
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Mar 9, 2011 02:16
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Jerusalem posted:Sent you a PM about it, but another thing is that I think you'll need at least a week between stuff or you still run the same risk of burn out - six hours of any kind of wrestling over a two day period risks overkill, no matter how good the matches. You're right and it's going to give me time to plan things out. I'll also be revising my toxx timeframe. So my stuff is pending.
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Mar 9, 2011 02:26
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oldpainless posted:Whats going on here? What result? Hunter going over? I was a gigantic Austin fan and the way it ended pissed me off. I was very unhappy. 
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Mar 9, 2011 02:55
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HulkaMatt posted:I was a gigantic Austin fan and the way it ended pissed me off. I was very unhappy. I agree with this. I want to discuss it but that would be spoiling for those who havent seen it...so I wont say anything because i hate spoiling for people.
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Mar 9, 2011 03:04
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MassRayPer posted:They need to do something else with Mark Henry. He is completely useless in his role, and in fact hurts the development of other wrestlers. He's a mid card babyface with some name value so he's a logical person for new heels to beat. But, he sucks. So the heels don't look good going over him. Look at the match with Wade last summer. It's not all his own fault, he is big and that makes it hard to work with him. Especially with more difficult finishers to execute like Barrett's. It is like you really want to say something positive about Mark Henry and the role he should have, but you just hate him too much to get there. Hating Mark Henry makes sense, sure--and this coming from someone who proudly owns and still wears a "Sexual Chocolate" t-shirt. But like a lot of people who do not seem to have good matches who, by all rights, should be able to have good matches, why not do something actually interesting with him that plays to his strengths (literally)? Reviving the "Holly Cousins" super-heavyweight gimmick in reverse would probably result in who knows how many months of awesome matches with him. For those who do not remember: they claimed to be super-heavyweights and carried a scale to the ring to force their opponents to prove they were in the appropriate weight class to wrestle them. Mark Henry claiming to be a bantamweight lucha wrestler and refusing to wrestle anyone over 200 pounds would have magnificent results; he has definitely had good matches against small people (shocking, I know). He has not, however, had any good press-slam matches against Viscera.
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Mar 9, 2011 04:43
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AkumaHokoru posted:I agree with this. I want to discuss it but that would be spoiling for those who havent seen it...so I wont say anything because i hate spoiling for people. Well we just had a discussion of who won so
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Mar 9, 2011 04:52
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AkumaHokoru posted:I agree with this. I want to discuss it but that would be spoiling for those who havent seen it...so I wont say anything because i hate spoiling for people. Thanks. As it happens, I'm currently watching the Legacy of Stone Cold Steve Austin and I'm planning on watching that match next.
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Mar 9, 2011 05:06
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CSammich posted:This is true in general but not always. Mark Henry and Big Show notably got 10 year guaranteed deals. I'm pretty sure the WWF started giving out guaranteed deals around 1996 due to competition from WCW and eventually stopped when WCW went out of business. I recall Mick Foley mentioning how he got a contract with no guaranteed money and then two weeks later, Marc Mero jumped to the WWF and got guaranteed money.
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Mar 9, 2011 05:38
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Suben posted:Jamie Noble lives in Melbourne, FL which isn't far from where I live (only a few miles). I've never actually seen him around though. I used to live in Melbourne, I ran into him in a store once. I didnt want to take his time so I just told him I was a fan and left him alone.
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Mar 9, 2011 06:43
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When did Taker's streak actually become "the streak"? ... and by that I mean both A.) When did fans start taking note of it, and B.) When did WWE start playing it up for Taker's mania feuds?
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Mar 9, 2011 06:48
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LightsGameraAction posted:When did Taker's streak actually become "the streak"? I don't remember it being a thing until maybe Wrestlemania 21 or 22. Can't remember which, but it was definitely talked about by the time 23 rolled around.
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Mar 9, 2011 07:00
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They talked about him going 10-0 at WrestleMania X8 against Flair. They didn't really make a big deal about it though.
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Mar 9, 2011 07:06
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DannoMack posted:So which contracts are the worst in wrestling history? Actually, let's make that WWE history because allowing WCW into that mix would be too easy. Mark Henry has been mentioned, and Marc Mero got a tonne of money too and nothing came of him, right? Who are the Vernon Wells of the WWE? How about Hall's, Nash's, and Hogan's contracts from 2002? You have a drunk bastard, a walking injury and a guy with a giant sized ego, what could could go wrong? Well, Hall was released a few months into his contract. Nash tore his quad just a few months in, and though he did return(it wasn't for a year),he was placed in a boring feud with Triple H in 2003(then released). Hogan went onto try to relive his glory days, but that ran out of steam pretty quick, and then he was released over a money dispute(anytime Hogan gets 'released'). I was actually excited for a new NWO, but how can you have it when the 3 main members are useless?
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Mar 9, 2011 07:13
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The worst WWF contract of all time was probably whatever money they gave to Ultimate Warrior to return in 1996.
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I am not sure if its the best or the worst but WCWs contract for the Genius. The best due to the face that he got paid a poo poo load to poo poo at home. The worst due to the fact that he got paid a poo poo load to sit at home while others had to bust there asses for less pay.
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Mar 9, 2011 07:19
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ColeM posted:
Weren't they the 3 only members that time around? Had they tacked anyone else even marginally more dependable onto it it might have run for a little while longer. As for the contract thing, aren't most Legends contracts just WWE paying retired wrestlers to not do or say anything wrestling-related without their consent?
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Mar 9, 2011 07:23
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LightsGameraAction posted:When did Taker's streak actually become "the streak"? It was a small part of the build for his match with HHH at X7 but that match may or may not exist according to WWE! I believe it also briefly came up as easy as WM 13.
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LightsGameraAction posted:Weren't they the 3 only members that time around? Had they tacked anyone else even marginally more dependable onto it it might have run for a little while longer. I remember Nash got injured at WM18 and he didn't even have his own match, it was Hall's squash loss to Austin. They had Booker T, Xpac, Big Show and HBK join up... ahh yeah you're right. The angle wasn't even worth it after WM 18 once Hogan left anyways. But then again, this was the WWE getting desperate for any kind of business spike after the Invasion fell flat.
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Mar 9, 2011 07:30
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bobkatt013 posted:I am not sure if its the best or the worst but WCWs contract for the Genius. The best due to the face that he got paid a poo poo load to poo poo at home. The worst due to the fact that he got paid a poo poo load to poo poo at home while others had to bust there asses for less pay. I seriously can believe that it was written into Genius' contract that he had to take his shits at home. Ted Turner: I'm not made of toilets, drat it!
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Mar 9, 2011 07:31
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Jerusalem posted:I seriously can believe that it was written into Genius' contract that he had to take his shits at home. It was WCW
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Mar 9, 2011 07:33
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ColeM posted:But then again, this was the WWE getting desperate for any kind of business spike after the Invasion fell flat. Ironically had any of them came in during the Invasion angle, it probably would have gone a lot differently. Same with Goldberg and Flair.
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Mar 9, 2011 07:45
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Who has been the most recent WWE release to completely vanish? I've not heard anything about the Heartthrobs or Rob Conway in years.
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Mar 9, 2011 12:51
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MassRayPer posted:It was a small part of the build for his match with HHH at X7 but that match may or may not exist according to WWE! I believe it also briefly came up as easy as WM 13. I know it was a fairly big part of the build at X7 because my friends an I all were pretty sure that HHH would break it, and we all marked when Taker got the win.
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Mar 9, 2011 15:30
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Giedroyc posted:Who has been the most recent WWE release to completely vanish? Regarding the streak, Taker held up ten fingers after he beat Flair, so it was definitely a talked-about thing by then.
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Mar 9, 2011 15:47
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Rarity posted:You are the reason I said "pretty much all" and not "all" Pneub posted:HHH's loving leg man, holy poo poo. The DVD (and video tape) bonus features showed him getting it patched up, backstage, it looked like a bullet hole. Pneub posted:To add on to that, he made it to the top on his own wrestling talent and skill at back-stage politics. He stayed at the top ten years past his prime because he married the bosses' daughter. I don't think it's fair to insinuate he over stayed his welcome either, I think now is the right time for him to retire, but he should have evolved his role in the company during the last ten years in light of what he had to contribute to younger stars and his physical condition.
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Mar 9, 2011 16:20
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And I actually kinda enjoyed it too, but only cause I was laughing at all the rage in the GDT. Without that, it would have been terrible.
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Mar 9, 2011 16:32
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reality_groove posted:It boggles the mind that it's the 10th Anniversary of that match and they're not referencing it at all. Especially considering the storyline was basically the same (but with Kane threatening to kill Stephanie and restraining orders).
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Mar 9, 2011 16:35
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I specifically remember Taker saying he'd beaten everyone and HHH coming out to say he'd never beaten him. Or the other way round, I forget. Also: "This is my yard" "Your yard is in the middle of my ring" So, pretty much what you said.
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Mar 9, 2011 16:39
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That just made me think with them selling him as The Dead Man/Last Outlaw maybe they just don't want to draw attention to Biker 'Taker.
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Mar 9, 2011 16:41
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Sue Denim posted:That just made me think with them selling him as The Dead Man/Last Outlaw maybe they just don't want to draw attention to Biker 'Taker. Cause there's nothing less "outlaw" than riding a motorcycle.
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Mar 9, 2011 17:52
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reality_groove posted:It boggles the mind that it's the 10th Anniversary of that match and they're not referencing it at all. I think even the WWE knows that they're pulling this out of their rear end and need to sell it hard, and bringing up that they had this match 10 years ago and Taker won certainly won't help their efforts.
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Mar 9, 2011 18:11
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Sue Denim posted:Just throwing in my two cents, plus I do think a lot of people would enjoy Raw more if they had more realistic expectations. I don't think it's very unrealistic to actually expect wrestling on a wrestling show, really. Nor do I think it's unrealistic to expect them to not bury their entire roster while the Shovel sits in the ring and has a dick waving contest with the Undertaker.
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Mar 9, 2011 18:14
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reality_groove posted:It boggles the mind that it's the 10th Anniversary of that match and they're not referencing it at all. Especially considering the storyline was basically the same (but with Kane threatening to kill Stephanie and restraining orders). I imagine they don't want to date themselves. 10 years is a lifetime ago, especially to the significant portion of the audience that either was a baby or wasn't born yet at the time.
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quote:Just throwing in my two cents, plus I do think a lot of people would enjoy Raw more if they had more realistic expectations. I know you're into promos and stuff, which is fine, but if that's seriously the driving force behind why you're watching wrestling maybe you should just watch Mad Men or Breaking Bad or something, instead of telling the wrestling fans who want to watch the thing they're fans of that they're just expecting too much of pro wrestling. If you went to a show and the band spent the majority of their set engaging in between-song banter, would you be okay with that?
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Mar 9, 2011 18:33
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What was the name London and Kendrick would often be called when they were the tag champs? I know here on the board they were just Londrick, but I know they had some wacky name too. But I can't remember what it was
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Mar 9, 2011 21:05
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Space Cob posted:What was the name London and Kendrick would often be called when they were the tag champs?
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Mar 9, 2011 21:09
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Living Vicariously posted:I think even the WWE knows that they're pulling this out of their rear end and need to sell it hard, and bringing up that they had this match 10 years ago and Taker won certainly won't help their efforts. I would absolutely mention this match. It was actually pretty loving good.
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Mar 9, 2011 21:10
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Space Cob posted:What was the name London and Kendrick would often be called when they were the tag champs? "London & Kendrick". Nothing iconic or memorable. Probably anticipating their inevitable return to singles wrestling despite (I think) having the longest tag title reign in the company's history.
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Space Cob posted:What was the name London and Kendrick would often be called when they were the tag champs? They wanted to be called the Hooligans and pushed for it and had in on their ring gear and everything, but the company thought that no one would remember their names if they had a tag team name.
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