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Wow, I thought Dust Man was literally someone at Capcom getting mad as hell at some office equipment and they decided to make a robot master out of it.
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Man, am I the only one who really loved the Zero series art direction? I thought it was different and neat. Yeah, the characters looked 'young' but that's literally every character, so it's clearly a stylistic choice. Besides. I really REALLY loved X's designs, both Copy X and Real X. Best looking X (besides red scarf X). But then again I also love Astro Boy and he's a shirtless childlike robot in underwear who has gun barrels that come out of his buttcheeks. I'M A MONSTER Rough Lobster fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Sep 10, 2011 |
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I don't think there's anything wrong with being taken by the artstyle of the Zero series, since any creepy associations are basically retrospective after everyone learned what Inticreates' next winning game idea was going to be. Put a bit of a disturbing spin on everything. That said, I loathe its character design and I always have. It's just that the animation and stage art/enemy spritework make up for it.
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I wish Copy X was actually the real X gone insane. That would have been ballsy as gently caress.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish Copy X was actually the real X gone insane. That would have been ballsy as gently caress. Driven to create an extremist justice system because he got so sick of maintaining the peace. Yeah I could dig that. Also! 
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish Copy X was actually the real X gone insane. That would have been ballsy as gently caress. We got something similar with the Bionic Commando game on next-gen systems. It wasn't nearly as cool as you would think.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish Copy X was actually the real X gone insane. That would have been ballsy as gently caress. This would've been a cool twist. Light's final creation is the one that almost dooms the world, and Wily's final creation is the one that ends up saving it. Zellus fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 10, 2011 |
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Sep 10, 2011 23:31
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blackguy32 posted:We got something similar with the Bionic Commando game on next-gen systems. It wasn't nearly as cool as you would think. Haven't played it, heard it sucked. So the original Rad Spencer is the bad guy? I remember thinking it was really cool that Richter Belmont was the bad guy in SOTN only to find out that he was being controlled. TaurusOxford posted:That makes no sense. The Spencer in Next-gen BC IS the original Rad Spencer. In that case I have no idea what he's talking about. GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 10, 2011 |
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Sep 10, 2011 23:33
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Gammatron 64 posted:Haven't played it, heard it sucked. So the original Rad Spencer is the bad guy? That makes no sense. The Spencer in Next-gen BC IS the original Rad Spencer.
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Bionic Commando next-gen spoilers: He's talking about Super Joe, who is the main villain of that game.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Bionic Commando next-gen spoilers: He's talking about Super Joe, who is the main villain of that game. Yeah, the villain is Super Joe, the main hero of Commando and the guy you save in Bionic Commando rearmed
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish Copy X was actually the real X gone insane. That would have been ballsy as gently caress. Then Capcom told them "uh we kinda made X6 while you weren't looking so you'll have to change the script". It might not be true, but I believe it because X6 ruined everything.
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Simply Simon posted:I read somewhere that this was the original plan and they had written it out already and poo poo. No, that's true. Inafune claimed this. His original plan for Zero WAS that X finally snapped from the constant mistakes of humanity and realized totalitarianism was the only way to maintain peace. X-6 screwed it all up; that's why they had to backpedal so much and make both MMZ's X and Zero out to be clones. Silly.
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x6 is like rocky V. Seriously, it is one of the most vile games of Megaman x ever. And yes Simon, you were right. Orginally Infaune wanted X to become the bigbad at the end of X. So technically he got his wish with Mega Man Zero.. Also.. wait.. that is Spencer in the next gen Bionic Commando? IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE HIM. gah. edit: Oh god, dont' get me started with that clone bullshit. It was stupid in X8 and it was stupid in Megaman Zero series. OH hey Zero, you were actually a copy made by Ciel, and that's your real body.. so.. yeah.. and blah, blah blah.. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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I still think that Zero's storyline holds up pretty well even with last-minute changes. Clones and all. It's another kind of bold move to say "uh Zero you realize you're NOT the Zero everyone, including yourself, thought you were?". They did a good job of converting what X6 forced onto them into a nice twist at the end.
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Shindragon posted:X6 is like rocky V. Does that mean that X8 is Rocky VI? I can live with that.
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Shindragon posted:edit: Oh god, dont' get me started with that clone bullshit. It was stupid in X8 and it was stupid in Megaman Zero series. OH hey Zero, you were actually a copy made by Ciel, and that's your real body.. so.. yeah.. and blah, blah blah.. This poo poo has been kind of stupid from day one. I think X8 actually took the series in a good direction.
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Oh believe, the Zero and ZX series were really stupid. All I could think, why not keep it simple like Wily and Sigma.. It just gets unneccesarily dumb as the game goes on. At least MegaMan online (which isn't canceled suprisingly) Says from the get go that the characters are dead and you are playing as copies of X,Zero and Duo..(Yeah duo)
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Duo is awesome and should be in every game either. He karate chopped a giant robot's face in half, then ripped out its black heart and crushed it in his oversized hand. If he didn't, the eviw enewgy would be spread in matter of days. 
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You know, I'm not too bothered that Mega Man isn't really happening anymore. You know why? Because there are so many Mega Man games. You could pretty much play them forever. There's nothing quite like playing a new game for the first time, but there's so many of 'em it out there probably isn't too hard to go back and find something new and different. It's been like twenty-five years now, right? He had a good run. Let's appreciate what we've got.
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So why did X6 suddenly make it so the Zero and X in the Zero games had to be copies? I never fully understood the garbled horseshit that X6's translation was.
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magikid posted:You know, I'm not too bothered that Mega Man isn't really happening anymore. You know why? Because there are so many Mega Man games. You could pretty much play them forever. There's nothing quite like playing a new game for the first time, but there's so many of 'em it out there probably isn't too hard to go back and find something new and different. Im not quite ready to give up on it. Capcom proved to me that they can make a good Megaman X game, even without Inafune. g0lbez posted:So why did X6 suddenly make it so the Zero and X in the Zero games had to be copies? I never fully understood the garbled horseshit that X6's translation was. It didn't sort of. Zero dies in X5 supposedly for good and X promises to carry on Zero's legacy. Then X6 comes out and Zero is alive again somehow and X is still doing the same poo poo he always was. So the storyline just kept on going when Inafune wanted it to end at X5.
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blackguy32 posted:Then X6 comes out and Zero is alive again somehow and X is still doing the same poo poo he always was. But they totally explained how Zero came back! I believe the exact quote by Zero was "I hid myself while I repaired myself."
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g0lbez posted:But they totally explained how Zero came back! I believe the exact quote by Zero was "I hid myself while I repaired myself." IIRC they didn't even explain it, he's just back. Just because.
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I think he asks himself "why am I alive again?"
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I was laughing. It was pretty much they didn't give a poo poo at that point. I mean yes, companies caring about stories is laughable always, but they at least try to make an effort to make it coherent. Right there.. That was just lazy. Oh Sigma speaking in all caps in his 2nd form. That was just stupid. What's even more funny is you did beat the x6 game without even bothering to find Zero (for some odd reason they don't really introduce you to do it) he still shows up in the ending. He's like.. oh hey I been hiding behind this rock. I mean at least X2, you have to find parts of Zero in order to get him back. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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Rough Lobster posted:Man, am I the only one who really loved the Zero series art direction? I thought it was different and neat. Yeah, the characters looked 'young' but that's literally every character, so it's clearly a stylistic choice. And HOOOLEEE poo poo, those doujin are amazing. EDIT: Here's his website: http://hwbb.gyao.ne.jp/gaio-pk/index.html M4rk fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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Rough Lobster posted:Man, am I the only one who really loved the Zero series art direction? I thought it was different and neat. Yeah, the characters looked 'young' but that's literally every character, so it's clearly a stylistic choice. Nah, not at all. In my case, it's not the character designs I love so much as it's the way he draws things. It looks kinda like he never really erases his sketch lines, and that gives it a really grainy, coarse, and busy look to it, which I prefer to the very clean, polished look of most anime games. And his variations on the Rider suits always look pretty cool too.
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I hadn't noticed this linked. It's a small Q&A with what's allegedly the only person to have played the Prototype demo of Legends 3 that was set to release before the whole project got axed. There's no real mind-blowing revelations in here. It's mostly fluff about technical or cosmetic/plot details. More than anything it lends more credence to what most people assumed, which is that Capcom was doing basically dick in the way of new innovation for the series. From the feel of the demo, the final product probably would've been just another Legends game, down to the bones. And you know, as typical as it is of Capcom's treatment of the franchise's 'evolution', for once I would've been just fine with that. As ambivalent as I am towards the cancellation just by virtue of it being less than a surprise, it is a shame to realize the creative team appeared genuinely into and excited by the project before it fell to executive measures. The biggest double take I had was reading the amount of content thrown into the demo. Knowing Capcom I expected a 30 minute tutorial section and a pair of missions tops.
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The first Mega Man I played was 8, and out of all the voices in the hilarious dub I thought Bass was actually decently done. Also, it took me all night to reach the second set of Robot Masters and I couldn't beat any of them.  I have the feeling now if I played the game I'd be able to do it. When I got the Anniversary Collection I actually noticed they changed some things in the port of 8 on there. The music looped differently and the large explosion sounds were a lot louder (although it may have been my TV, I have no idea)
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Violen posted:I hadn't noticed this linked. It's a small Q&A with what's allegedly the only person to have played the Prototype demo of Legends 3 that was set to release before the whole project got axed. There's no real mind-blowing revelations in here. It's mostly fluff about technical or cosmetic/plot details. I don't even like Legends and this interview just feels like kicking the fans when they're down. I think most of us assumed that the prototype was unplayable, when in reality it was pretty much ready to ship.
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Look what came in the mail the other day!
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LemonLimeTime posted:Look what came in the mail the other day! I'll wait for version 2(We BETTER get a version 2 D-arts!). As much as I like Zero, he just isn't the same without a Z-saber.
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TaurusOxford posted:I'll wait for version 2(We BETTER get a version 2 D-arts!). As much as I like Zero, he just isn't the same without a Z-saber. I actually kinda like version 1 better since version 2 has been made into a toy or model a bazillion times over. The fake black Zero from X2 would be sweet though. I guess that's just wishful thinking. But what I really want are D Arts of the X2 armor and Sigma.
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Zeether posted:The first Mega Man I played was 8, and out of all the voices in the hilarious dub I thought Bass was actually decently done. Also, it took me all night to reach the second set of Robot Masters and I couldn't beat any of them. Honestly, I thought the anniversary collection was a piece of poo poo.
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blackguy32 posted:Honestly, I thought the anniversary collection was a piece of poo poo.
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blackguy32 posted:Honestly, I thought the anniversary collection was a piece of poo poo. Uh, why? They fixed the lovely menus in MM 1-3 and let you switch weapons without going into the pause screen every single time, which is especially awesome for 6 and the Rush Adapters. Nevermind the better interface/controls in general and remixed music.
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LemonLimeTime posted:I actually kinda like version 1 better since version 2 has been made into a toy or model a bazillion times over. My wishful thinking would be for them to do all of X's armors so I can just take the faces out of all of them and create a hall of armors.
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Last Celebration posted:Uh, why? They fixed the lovely menus in MM 1-3 and let you switch weapons without going into the pause screen every single time, which is especially awesome for 6 and the Rush Adapters. Nevermind the better interface/controls in general and remixed music. In the Gamecube version, they mapped shoot to A and jump to B. Why would you do that.
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Last Celebration posted:Nevermind the better interface/controls in general and remixed music. I wanna know in what world B jumps and A fires is better controls. You can adapt to them, but it makes absolutely no sense.
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