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Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.
I imagine this is a really complicated question, but roughly how much faster were the various versions of SF2 compared to WW?

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Fruitsnacks
Oct 28, 2007

Periodiko posted:

I imagine this is a really complicated question, but roughly how much faster were the various versions of SF2 compared to WW?
"Turbo Speed and Frameskip" by Dammit: http://combovid.com/?p=5002

The tables at the bottom show how much faster the games run at each turbo setting.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

Countblanc posted:

Hey where in MI are you? I was probably going to Season's Beatings but I live near Mt. Pleasant and there's no scene at all here.

I'm in the metro detroit area. West Bloomfield to be specific but most of the scene is from downriver.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Total newbie, started playing SSF4AE with some friends, so I picked up a Mad Catz TE stick for Xbox 360 after reading reviews about how great it was.

It's a nice stick, though it's taking me a bit to get used to it. I have a question, though. I know it's got a selector for Left Stick, Dpad and Right Stick. SF4 will accept input from either Left Stick or Dpad, but is there one that is "better" or does that just change where it sends the input to the 360?

It came defaulted to Dpad, and I was having problems with HCF motions not always coming out, so I tried switching it to Left Stick which helped quite a bit. But I'm wondering if it was just a placebo effect and I started focusing more on making sure the motion was accurate. Is there actually a difference between the two output modes or is it purely in case a game you play doesn't support one output or the other?

Thanks.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Zaodai posted:

Total newbie, started playing SSF4AE with some friends, so I picked up a Mad Catz TE stick for Xbox 360 after reading reviews about how great it was.

It's a nice stick, though it's taking me a bit to get used to it. I have a question, though. I know it's got a selector for Left Stick, Dpad and Right Stick. SF4 will accept input from either Left Stick or Dpad, but is there one that is "better" or does that just change where it sends the input to the 360?

It came defaulted to Dpad, and I was having problems with HCF motions not always coming out, so I tried switching it to Left Stick which helped quite a bit. But I'm wondering if it was just a placebo effect and I started focusing more on making sure the motion was accurate. Is there actually a difference between the two output modes or is it purely in case a game you play doesn't support one output or the other?

Thanks.

Its placebo. No matter what the stick only has 4 directional switches anyways. Leave it on Dpad no matter what, stick mode has a little input lag for some reason.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
I think most games just accept inputs from both d-pad and left stick no matter what. I dunno if there's any real difference in what you pick, but I've found my inputs to be far more reliable when it's set to d-pad.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.
Yeah, don't put it on LS for sure. If you walk back and forth on that setting you can see that it sort of lags or holds the input a little too long.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Alright, thanks for the info. I'll be sure to set it back to dpad the next time I play.

On the plus side, it means I'm getting slightly less poo poo at the very basics of fighting games.

That and figuring out EX Machine Gun Blow kicks rear end are the high points of the session. (Yes, I am that bad.)

Dr Slouch
May 8, 2008

Zaodai posted:

Alright, thanks for the info. I'll be sure to set it back to dpad the next time I play.

On the plus side, it means I'm getting slightly less poo poo at the very basics of fighting games.

That and figuring out EX Machine Gun Blow kicks rear end are the high points of the session. (Yes, I am that bad.)

Since you say you are a very beginning person I feel it might be a good idea to make sure you know that using EX Machine Gun Blow randomly outside of combos will generally not end well against smart opponents; it has no special kind of invincibility and if the opponent blocks it they can punish you for it. In combos though? Yes it is a very awesome move. You can follow up with all kinds of junk, especially in the corner.

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Zaodai posted:

Alright, thanks for the info. I'll be sure to set it back to dpad the next time I play.

On the plus side, it means I'm getting slightly less poo poo at the very basics of fighting games.

That and figuring out EX Machine Gun Blow kicks rear end are the high points of the session. (Yes, I am that bad.)

Yo, PM me (or post here if you don't care) your XBLive tag. My 360 stick should be in soon and I'm terribad at AE, so we can have scrubmatches all night.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Digital_Jesus posted:

Yo, PM me (or post here if you don't care) your XBLive tag. My 360 stick should be in soon and I'm terribad at AE, so we can have scrubmatches all night.

Sadly, my only game-worthy internet is through a phone tether, and passing that from my PC probably wouldn't be great for fighting games. Works fine for stuff like World of Tanks, but wouldn't count on it for SSF4.

As for random EX Machine Gun Blow, yeah, I know. But lots of stuff I do can get punished horribly right now. I try and work as much as I can into combos, but I'm having a hard time adapting to the stick right now. I sometimes get EX Jet Upper when I'm going for Ultra (Corkscrew Blow seems easier to use as a punish? And sometimes I can combo it off of EX MGB in the corner when it launches them), and I'm still so new I'm not getting even dashes to come out 100%. I think I'm so used to playing games on a pad that I need to train myself to let the stick return to neutral for a second between inputs.

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Going back to American stickchat, what are the main differences between a Perfect 360 and a Competition/Eurojoystick? I'm assuming they're virtually nothing alike since their mechanisms are completely different, but is the P360 better enough to justify the much higher price tag (or, for that matter, is it better at all?)

You would think it would be easy to find this sort of thing on Google, but either I'm retarded at googling or it's just not out there.

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
p360 is optical, and also poo poo unless you get a 10 year old wico one. AIAB stopped selling them because they all broke.

Toodles was working on a sanwa flash clone (old optical pcb for jlf) I dont know if thats for sale yet however. He WAS selling near EVO time but I havent seen the thread in a while.

fix yr hearts
Feb 9, 2011

things you cannot touch:
my heart
EGM interview with S-Kill.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/egm-interview-capcoms-seth-killian/

Sex Vicar
Oct 11, 2007

I thought this was a swingers party...
SkullGirls now set for release in early 2012

I guess Chilldog was a load bearing intern. Still can't wait for the game though!

may contain peanuts
Sep 28, 2007

WOW what a grate sports paly by the 49rs (better than seahawks)

Sex Vicar posted:

SkullGirls now set for release in early 2012

I guess Chilldog was a load bearing intern. Still can't wait for the game though!
gently caress life.

I guess this isn't really surprising though, they've only got 4 playable characters and it's almost October.

Trykt
Jul 30, 2000

Still training..
Cross posting from the SF3 thread, we have a goon stream going for an online tourney tonight:

quote:

http://www.twitch.tv/buckowens

Goons Garden stream is live! We're playing some 3S casuals right now, tournament will start in half an hour. Most of us are real real bad so don't come watchin this for some pro poo poo. Feel free to cheer and jeer in #goonsgarden on irc.synirc.net though!

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



So I'm a total scrub at fighting games, despite playing pretty much every street fighter since SF2 as they came out and spending a decent amount of time with Third Strike.

So in a drunken haze I decided to combo purchase SSF4:AE and a hitbox:



So far I'm enjoying using the hit box and for the first time in 15+ years I can actually Shoryuken on command 90% of the time. Also, the box shipped insanely fast. I got shipping notification saturday and got it monday.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

HKR posted:

So I'm a total scrub at fighting games, despite playing pretty much every street fighter since SF2 as they came out and spending a decent amount of time with Third Strike.

So in a drunken haze I decided to combo purchase SSF4:AE and a hitbox:



So far I'm enjoying using the hit box and for the first time in 15+ years I can actually Shoryuken on command 90% of the time. Also, the box shipped insanely fast. I got shipping notification saturday and got it monday.

That is an attractive piece of technology.

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer
Boo-urns.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

HKR posted:

So I'm a total scrub at fighting games, despite playing pretty much every street fighter since SF2 as they came out and spending a decent amount of time with Third Strike.

So in a drunken haze I decided to combo purchase SSF4:AE and a hitbox:



So far I'm enjoying using the hit box and for the first time in 15+ years I can actually Shoryuken on command 90% of the time. Also, the box shipped insanely fast. I got shipping notification saturday and got it monday.

Aw man, that thing is pretty sexy lookin'. IIRC the first ones were like home made and were basically a wooden box with buttons coming out of it. How much did that cost?

I don't think I would ever make the switch to a hitbox, though. There's just something about a joystick that just feels right to me.

Coughing-up Tweed
Jun 12, 2006

Gammatron 64 posted:

Aw man, that thing is pretty sexy lookin'. IIRC the first ones were like home made and were basically a wooden box with buttons coming out of it. How much did that cost?

I don't think I would ever make the switch to a hitbox, though. There's just something about a joystick that just feels right to me.

I have some mistakes doing DPs in older games like super turbo and the alpha series using a keyboard, so I doubt I could use a hitbox for those. For 3S and up (I guess, I've never played SF4 on a keyboard) you can just hold down and double tap forward for a DP, so that would work. I still feel cheap and lazy for doing that, though.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Coughing-up Tweed posted:

I have some mistakes doing DPs in older games like super turbo and the alpha series using a keyboard, so I doubt I could use a hitbox for those. For 3S and up (I guess, I've never played SF4 on a keyboard) you can just hold down and double tap forward for a DP, so that would work. I still feel cheap and lazy for doing that, though.

I played SF4 on a keyboard for a bit and to me, it's just so awkward. DP's are definitely doable but they are SO much more natural on a stick.

I also like charge characters a lot so I'm kind of a japanese square gate purist. I can do Balrog's BnB juggle into ultra on a Japanese stick in my sleep. On the 3DS pad/stick it's pretty yucky. On a keyboard or an Xbox pad? I don't think I can even do it. gently caress, on the standard 360 pad I can't even do a hadoken. That thing was designed for navigating menus and switching to different guns, not for actually controlling any character in any videogame any way.

But that's just me. I know a few pad players who are way better than I am, so it's all a preference thing.

S-n-S
Oct 27, 2010
Lately, I've been trying to find a local fighting game scene that is less than 6 hours away--one of the main reasons I didn't bother going to CEO. That, and I would actually like to start locally so if I get my rear end kicked, it won't be as expensive an rear end-kicking. Is there a Louisiana(esp. New Orleans) scene or similarly located? I know of a few Tuscaloosa things coming up and there doesn't seem to be a Louisiana/Deep South competition thread on SRK unless I'm blind--which is likely.

Fingers McLongDong
Nov 30, 2005

not eromenos
Fun Shoe
:pcgaming: NEW GOONSGARDEN FOR NEXT WEEK, SUPER TURBO THIS TIME :pcgaming:


http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv



Rules are in the signup page, going to do a quick ST tourney for fun this time. Everyone can play this game because it's on PC!! yay!!

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
Unlikely here but worth posting:

If anyone goes to University of Florida or lives close to Gainesville, we are having "Wednesday Night Fights" this Wednesday and every Wednesday to try to expand our scene and offer a weekly tournament. They haven't told us what location we can use (somewhere on campus) but hoping we can get a decent turnout... I can't go this week but should be able to go most weeks. We will have AE and Marvel 3.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Fingers McLongDong posted:

:pcgaming: NEW GOONSGARDEN FOR NEXT WEEK, SUPER TURBO THIS TIME :pcgaming:

I'll probably enter this, I like super turbo.

ZerodotJander
Dec 29, 2004

Chinaman, explain!

Fingers McLongDong posted:

:pcgaming: NEW GOONSGARDEN FOR NEXT WEEK, SUPER TURBO THIS TIME :pcgaming:

Rules are in the signup page, going to do a quick ST tourney for fun this time. Everyone can play this game because it's on PC!! yay!!

I want to play but GGPO runs like absolute poo poo on Win7 :(

gently caress, I might play anyway. Who cares if everything lags by like 5 frames.

vvv I wanted to but none of my friends are going, plus I just moved into a new apartment and my rent went up by 50% (no roommates now though, it's worth it) so I should probably try to save my money. I should have skipped the ST SBO quals, then I'd definitely go to SB. Oh well.

ZerodotJander fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Sep 27, 2011

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

ZerodotJander posted:

I want to play but GGPO runs like absolute poo poo on Win7 :(

gently caress, I might play anyway. Who cares if everything lags by like 5 frames.

Are you going to SB again this year? I wanna run sets with someone in ST :twisted:

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me

Fingers McLongDong posted:

:pcgaming: NEW GOONSGARDEN FOR NEXT WEEK, SUPER TURBO THIS TIME :pcgaming:


http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/sfchzh8qfv



Rules are in the signup page, going to do a quick ST tourney for fun this time. Everyone can play this game because it's on PC!! yay!!

I've never played ST. Gonna body y'all though

e: oh it's at 3am, gently caress that

Fingers McLongDong
Nov 30, 2005

not eromenos
Fun Shoe

AXE COP posted:

I've never played ST. Gonna body y'all though

e: oh it's at 3am, gently caress that

Im guessing you're a eurogoon then.. yeah sorry the time is set up to try to be convenient for east and west coast US boons. No one cares about stupid europeans!

Cinroth
Dec 11, 2008

Has it never occured
to you that this club
is overpopulated?

Fingers McLongDong posted:

Im guessing you're a eurogoon then.. yeah sorry the time is set up to try to be convenient for east and west coast US boons. No one cares about stupid europeans!

You're the one who's stupid you... you big stupid poobrain!! :smith:

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*
Oh hey, it's on PC! Well, I think I'll play, but can someone tell me who the best beginner characters are in ST? I think I played it like once and I was button mashing.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

PalmTreeFun posted:

Oh hey, it's on PC! Well, I think I'll play, but can someone tell me who the best beginner characters are in ST? I think I played it like once and I was button mashing.

Ryu.

ZerodotJander
Dec 29, 2004

Chinaman, explain!
Boxer is also a good choice for a new player.

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*
Same as AE then. Alright, that makes things easy. I'll download GGPO and try to be not absolutely awful before Sunday. Thanks guys. :)

Bovineicide
May 2, 2005

Eating your face since 1991.

Jmcrofts posted:

Ryu.

He could always just cut out the middleman and use O.Sagat.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Bovineicide posted:

He could always just cut out the middleman and use O.Sagat.

Except Ryu would do a lot more for teaching him the fundamentals of the game.

Fingers McLongDong
Nov 30, 2005

not eromenos
Fun Shoe
Its cute how people assume picking o.sagat is an automatic win when in fact you actually do have to know how to play to use him right

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Bovineicide
May 2, 2005

Eating your face since 1991.

Fingers McLongDong posted:

Its cute how people assume picking o.sagat is an automatic win when in fact you actually do have to know how to play to use him right

Easy has nothing to do with it. I pick characters based on how much hate mail I'll get with them :cool:

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