The Fighting Game Thread IV: Arcade Edition

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AXE COP: Apr 16, 2010; i always feel like

somebody's watching me

Cat Machine posted:

I won a competition and now I get to play Strekken, UMVC3, TTT2 Arcade and Tekken Hybrid this weekend

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# ? Oct 10, 2011 21:50

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 02:49

Liar Lyre: Jun 3, 2011; Here to deliver
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Hey dudes, here's the latest Friday Night Fights for Skullgirls...on Monday. IGN is a pretty terrible website.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/10/skullgirls-cerebella-gameplay

Oh yeah, and also be on the look out for another character reveal possibly today. It was supposed to be revealed in Fraggs Magazine, but the became X360 Weekly and cancelled the issue that was supposed to reveal Painwheel. Skullgirls has been having a lovely week.

Liar Lyre fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 10, 2011

# ? Oct 10, 2011 22:02

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
A > - - - LR > > - - LL > - - -

Yeah, IGN completely hosed over Reverge. They promised to post the video on Friday, but posted it on goddamn Monday with the wrong name, wrong description, under the wrong game, unable to be downloaded without a pay account, and with worse quality than loving Youtube 240p.

# ? Oct 10, 2011 23:22

Dr. Bonertron: Mar 26, 2009; The doctor said I was too muscular to be aborted

Okay so check this out it's not really about fighting games, but about an arcade stick. (I got it for fighting games so don't worry) Anyway I'm playing a game that requires me to press two buttons (circle and square) repeatedly in quick succession. I can figure out how to set one button to turbo, but not a second. I'm using a Hori Real Arcade 3... anyone have any idea if it's possible to turbo two buttons at once?

# ? Oct 11, 2011 00:10

Trykt: Jul 30, 2000; Still training..

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# ? Oct 11, 2011 01:01

Trykt: Jul 30, 2000; Still training..

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Stream for the PC tournament is now live! No Xbox stream tonight.

# ? Oct 11, 2011 03:07

AXE COP: Apr 16, 2010; i always feel like

somebody's watching me

The skullgirls site posted an interesting article on how they'll be approaching tutorials:

http://skullgirls.com/2011/10/tutorials-teaching-the-untechable/

# ? Oct 11, 2011 09:32

South Town guy: Jun 6, 2011

According to the end of this interview, Ono is impressed enough with KoF XIII to warm up to the idea of a CvS3.
It probably wouldn't be his call as much as it would the Capcom higher-ups', but there have been mentions of Capcom trying to split their fighting game output into more casual and hardcore stuff, and a more casual public is unlikely to even be aware of SNK, which the more hardcore have at least some rough awareness of, who knows...

# ? Oct 11, 2011 17:24

Shiki Dan: Oct 27, 2010; If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

If CvS3 is made, get the loving Ultimate Match team to do it, not Dimps.

That's all I ask.

# ? Oct 11, 2011 20:09

PalmTreeFun: Apr 25, 2010; *toot*

AXE COP posted:

The skullgirls site posted an interesting article on how they'll be approaching tutorials:

http://skullgirls.com/2011/10/tutorials-teaching-the-untechable/

After about 20 years, finally someone puts a proper tutorial in a fighting game.

vvv I had that game collection, but I forgot that that's where it was from. Okay, so second time in 20 years.

PalmTreeFun fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 11, 2011

# ? Oct 11, 2011 20:45

Zand: Jul 9, 2003; ~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

PalmTreeFun posted:

After about 20 years, finally someone puts a proper tutorial in a fighting game.

these are from the Xbox 1 and PS2 game, Capcom Classics Collection vol 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoILSEQL9jE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCapuhsOMcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dD3K2_Pz4

# ? Oct 11, 2011 21:10

Cat Machine: Jun 18, 2008

PalmTreeFun posted:

After about 20 years, finally someone puts a proper tutorial in a fighting game.

Blazblue had an hour+ tutorial

# ? Oct 11, 2011 21:33

Shiki Dan: Oct 27, 2010; If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

PalmTreeFun posted:

After about 20 years, finally someone puts a proper tutorial in a fighting game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G12yIXwpFVA

:colbert:

# ? Oct 11, 2011 21:39

Liar Lyre: Jun 3, 2011; Here to deliver
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All of those tutorials are really great, especially that ST one, but what really is jumping out to me for Skullgirls is breaking down the execution barrier. From first hand experience I can say I know a lot about fighting games but I'm really bad at them. I have difficulty understanding when to use what I know. So far it sounds like they will show you the info, let you use the info, then have you think about when to use it.

# ? Oct 11, 2011 22:25

Gutcruncher: Apr 16, 2005; Go home and be a family man!

Shiki Dan posted:

If CvS3 is made, get the loving Ultimate Match team to do it, not Dimps.

That's all I ask.

Then it wouldnt be CvS, it would be SvC :colbert:

# ? Oct 12, 2011 08:15

Shiki Dan: Oct 27, 2010; If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

Doesn't matter what the name is, it would still be 10x better than anything that Dimps could make.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 08:37

Schmendrick: Aug 22, 2003; (Insert stupid MMO name here.)

Gutcruncher posted:

Then it wouldnt be CvS, it would be SvC

I'll take steroid characters over broken game mechanics/hitboxes, but that's just me. Whoever made SvC should be ashamed of themselves for making such a broken, horrible game.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 15:38

Gutcruncher: Apr 16, 2005; Go home and be a family man!

Schmendrick posted:

I'll take steroid characters over broken game mechanics/hitboxes, but that's just me. Whoever made SvC should be ashamed of themselves for making such a broken, horrible game.

The worst part about SVC Chaos is that SVC Match of the Millennium, a handheld fighting game from several years earlier, was so much better. How the hell did they manage that?

# ? Oct 12, 2011 16:00

Fenn the Fool!: Oct 24, 2006; woohoo

I think the easiest way to teach people fighting games would be to change how AI difficulty works. Instead of just making the AI dumber as you scale down the difficulty, keep the AI reasonably smart but take away tools from their characters. At the easiest difficulties the AI would only have a handful of attacks that the player learns to counter in order to win. This is exactly how bosses in most other games work and simply by playing the game a new player quickly learns what to do in a given scenario. More importantly it breaks the strategy of the game up into easy to digest chunks, this would make it much easier for a new player to make the jump from just throwing attacks out and seeing what sticks to having an overarching strategy. In this way you can easily create a lengthy single player experience with a traditional scaling difficulty curve all while teaching new players to play the game through actual gameplay.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 18:00

ShinsoBEAM!: Nov 6, 2008; "Even if this body of mine is turned to dust, I will defend my country."

Fenn the Fool! posted:

I think the easiest way to teach people fighting games would be to change how AI difficulty works. Instead of just making the AI dumber as you scale down the difficulty, keep the AI reasonably smart but take away tools from their characters. At the easiest difficulties the AI would only have a handful of attacks that the player learns to counter in order to win. This is exactly how bosses in most other games work and simply by playing the game a new player quickly learns what to do in a given scenario. More importantly it breaks the strategy of the game up into easy to digest chunks, this would make it much easier for a new player to make the jump from just throwing attacks out and seeing what sticks to having an overarching strategy. In this way you can easily create a lengthy single player experience with a traditional scaling difficulty curve all while teaching new players to play the game through actual gameplay.

You could also have something like Mauve's IaMP AI that could learn pressure/combos/resets from replays, it still sucked at blocking though

. I know VF recorded top players playing and tried to integrate it and smash bros brawl tries to copy what you do for its lv9 AI, I mean it is pretty funny to watch a computer pikachu use QAC to move around.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 18:12

PalmTreeFun: Apr 25, 2010; *toot*

ShinsoBEAM! posted:

You could also have something like Mauve's IaMP AI that could learn pressure/combos/resets from replays, it still sucked at blocking though . I know VF recorded top players playing and tried to integrate it and smash bros brawl tries to copy what you do for its lv9 AI, I mean it is pretty funny to watch a computer pikachu use QAC to move around.

Wait, Smash Bros. AI is that advanced? I'm kind of surprised.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 20:20

redmercer: Sep 15, 2011; by Fistgrrl

Gutcruncher posted:

The worst part about SVC Chaos is that SVC Match of the Millennium, a handheld fighting game from several years earlier, was so much better. How the hell did they manage that?

The NGPC, for everything else that went wrong, was probably the best handheld yet for fighters.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 20:37

Captain Corduroy: Mar 31, 2007; We find the source of the problem, and we throw dragons at it.

SRK's got the reveal for the newest Skullgirls character, Painwheel.

http://shoryuken.com/2011/10/12/shoryuken-skullgirls-exclusive-painwheel-revealed/

# ? Oct 12, 2011 21:57

canoshiz: Nov 6, 2005; THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!

PalmTreeFun posted:

Wait, Smash Bros. AI is that advanced? I'm kind of surprised.

Well I dunno about Brawl but when I played Melee a lot in high school sometimes I'd catch a level 9 CPU doing a wavedash.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 21:59

fix yr hearts: Feb 9, 2011; things you cannot touch:
my heart

Captain Corduroy posted:

SRK's got the reveal for the newest Skullgirls character, Painwheel.

http://shoryuken.com/2011/10/12/shoryuken-skullgirls-exclusive-painwheel-revealed/

drat, no video.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 21:59

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

Captain Corduroy posted:

SRK's got the reveal for the newest Skullgirls character, Painwheel.

http://shoryuken.com/2011/10/12/shoryuken-skullgirls-exclusive-painwheel-revealed/

Holy poo poo the site is filled to the brim with ads.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 22:04

Liar Lyre: Jun 3, 2011; Here to deliver
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kaujot posted:

drat, no video.

Well, we got New York Comic Con and Season's Beatings this weekend so we could get a little something then. At the very least we'll probably get some more Ms. Fortune footage.

# ? Oct 12, 2011 22:12

Zero000: Mar 8, 2008; Woof.

So who's going to Season's Beatings???

# ? Oct 13, 2011 08:12

Nickoten: Oct 16, 2005; Now there'll be some quiet in this town.

Not me this time.

# ? Oct 13, 2011 10:16

Eckertmania: May 11, 2007; "'Hey, a computer took your place, daddy.' That's hard times! That's hard times!"

Zero000 posted:

So who's going to Season's Beatings???

I am! I'm entered in AE and I'll be working in the Focus Fire booth most of the time, so come say hello (I'll be the big, fat, goony looking dude.)

# ? Oct 13, 2011 12:56

HORSEPORN: Oct 7, 2008

Zero000 posted:

So who's going to Season's Beatings???

Leaving from michigan around noon today. Should be there pretty early in the evening/afternoon.

# ? Oct 13, 2011 13:15

Brett824: Mar 30, 2009; I could let these dreamkillers kill my self esteem or use the arrogance as the steam to follow my dream

I'll be there.

# ? Oct 13, 2011 13:23

Jmcrofts: Jan 7, 2008; just chillin' in the club; Lipstick Apathy

Zero000 posted:

So who's going to Season's Beatings???

Me!

# ? Oct 13, 2011 14:11

fix yr hearts: Feb 9, 2011; things you cannot touch:
my heart

Jmcrofts posted:

Me!

Do you know if there's going to be any Skullgirls announcements? Or, say, video of a recently announced character?

# ? Oct 13, 2011 14:15

may contain peanuts: Sep 28, 2007; WOW what a grate sports paly by the 49rs (better than seahawks)

Zero000 posted:

So who's going to Season's Beatings???

I'm going to be there. I will be the white dude with no distinguishing characteristics playing Mortal Kombat and Skullgirls.

# ? Oct 13, 2011 14:26

Jmcrofts: Jan 7, 2008; just chillin' in the club; Lipstick Apathy

kaujot posted:

Do you know if there's going to be any Skullgirls announcements? Or, say, video of a recently announced character?

No announcements at SB as far as I know (SG is also at comic con this weekend though so we'll see). However Ms Fortune will be playable to the public for the first time!

# ? Oct 13, 2011 14:33