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DannoMack posted:Like when Miz told his chicken and JBL stories and this place went nuts, people here really love promos where guys they hate based on dirtsheet stories get called out for backstage reasons.
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Cardboard Box posted:I can actually imagine Cole showing up randomly in Bryan's everyday life to harass him.
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Nov 15, 2011 20:48
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LordPants posted:I thought the Cage match came later? When Bret wrestled Sid for the title and Austin was interfering trying to help so he could beat Bret for the title, then Bret cut the "Goddamn Bullshit" promo. There was only one. For whatever reason, people seem to have compressed a few weeks of booking into a couple of nights. What happened was that Bret defended the title against Sid on Raw the night after the Final Four PPV, and they had Austin come out and hit Bret with a chair while he had the Sharpshooter on Sid, kicking off the Wrestlemania storyline proper for Hart/Austin. A week or so later, they set up Taker/Sid for the title at WM, and then like a week or two before WM they had the Hart/Sid rematch in a cage that had Austin helping Bret and Taker helping Sid because both wanted to go for the title. Which led to the profanity-laden Bret promo and the start of his heel turn. Which takes us into Mania and we know what happened there.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:03
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The Cameo posted:the Hart/Sid rematch in a cage that had Austin helping Bret and Taker helping Sid because both wanted to go for the title.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:37
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Have I raved about how awesome the promos and booking are for that angle before mania? Shamrock standing in the ring talking about how he's going to call it down the middle, then Stone Cold appears on the Titantron and starts saying how "he's never quit in his life and he ain't gonna start at wrestlemania" and how he's got half a notion to come down to the ring and knock Shamrock on his rear end. and Shamrock is all like "I don't have my tights with me, but if you wanna come down here..."  then Hitman's music plays and Stone Cold is like "Goddamn Hitman, I better knock him on his rear end too." and then Hitman cuts this whiny crybaby promo and then says Shamrock ain't got poo poo on him, because he's Bret Hart.And then there is probably a pull apart brawl, because, y'know  But gosh that was great. 
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Nov 16, 2011 00:58
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The best was that throughout the entire feud (Mania, the reformation of the Hart Foundation etc), Bret and Austin never ever backed down from each other. It didn't matter who was the heel or who was the face, both were absolutely convinced they could murder the poo poo out of each other and neither had any qualms about accepting any callouts from the other.
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Probably a stupid question but in the beginning of Botchamania there's a soundbite of who I assume is Bryan Alvarez screaming "NEGATIVE FIVE STARS!" which I've heard bandied about here. What match/event is that referring to?
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Nov 16, 2011 19:15
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flashy_mcflash posted:Probably a stupid question but in the beginning of Botchamania there's a soundbite of who I assume is Bryan Alvarez screaming "NEGATIVE FIVE STARS!" which I've heard bandied about here. What match/event is that referring to? Isn't it "MINUS FIVE STARS!!!"?
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Nov 16, 2011 19:17
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flashy_mcflash posted:Probably a stupid question but in the beginning of Botchamania there's a soundbite of who I assume is Bryan Alvarez screaming "NEGATIVE FIVE STARS!" which I've heard bandied about here. What match/event is that referring to? Isn't that the TNA one involving Jenna Morasca?
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Nov 16, 2011 19:17
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Was there a particular time or reason to pinpoint when crowds started going "woooo!" after a chop?
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Nov 16, 2011 19:20
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flashy_mcflash posted:Probably a stupid question but in the beginning of Botchamania there's a soundbite of who I assume is Bryan Alvarez screaming "NEGATIVE FIVE STARS!" which I've heard bandied about here. What match/event is that referring to? It's from the review of Victory Road 2009, specifically the Jenna Morasca/Sharmell match.
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Nov 16, 2011 19:55
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Bocc Kob posted:Was there a particular time or reason to pinpoint when crowds started going "woooo!" after a chop?
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Isn't it "MINUS FIVE STARS!!!"? You're right, and thanks for the answers everyone - I never saw that one but it's not surprising.
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Nov 16, 2011 20:17
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flashy_mcflash posted:You're right, and thanks for the answers everyone - I never saw that one but it's not surprising. Whoa whoa whoa you haven't seen this match? Everyone needs to see it at least once in their life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYm7GR-_jk4
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Nov 16, 2011 20:35
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Oatgan posted:Whoa whoa whoa you haven't seen this match? Everyone needs to see it at least once in their life Oh my...but she....gently caress man. People paid for this?
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Nov 16, 2011 20:50
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Oatgan posted:Whoa whoa whoa you haven't seen this match? Everyone needs to see it at least once in their life What the gently caress is this poo poo? Something that actually makes Kelly Kelly look good in comparison? I didn't think it was possible! 
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Nov 16, 2011 20:51
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Bocc Kob posted:Was there a particular time or reason to pinpoint when crowds started going "woooo!" after a chop? Sort of answered by Wojtek, it's pretty much because Ric Flair popularized chops, and it just sort of stuck. It's one of the few wrestler-specific things that the audience caught onto that I personally like. Now if I see a chop and don't hear a "whooooo!" it's just weird.
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Nov 16, 2011 20:55
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Cardboard Box posted:Sort of answered by Wojtek, it's pretty much because Ric Flair popularized chops, and it just sort of stuck. It's one of the few wrestler-specific things that the audience caught onto that I personally like. Now if I see a chop and don't hear a "whooooo!" it's just weird. I could have sworn it started in ECW. I may be way off, but didn't have to do with Shane Douglas' hatred of Ric Flair? He'd do the chop and the fans would "wooo!" in mockery of Flair, but then it just stuck.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:00
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Nah, it was before that. There were also large crowds in WWF and WCW doing it at the same time.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:10
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The Senator Giroux posted:I could have sworn it started in ECW. I may be way off, but didn't have to do with Shane Douglas' hatred of Ric Flair? He'd do the chop and the fans would "wooo!" in mockery of Flair, but then it just stuck. I am sure Shane Douglas thinks that he is responsible for it. He is also responsible for the low low prices at Target.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:12
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bobkatt013 posted:I am sure Shane Douglas thinks that he is responsible for it. He is also responsible for the low low prices at Target. I can't believe I fell for his lies, and he still couldn't show me which aisle the Tupperware was on.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:42
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The Senator Giroux posted:I can't believe I fell for his lies, and he still couldn't show me which aisle the Tupperware was on. "gently caress DICK FLAIR AND gently caress YOUR TUPPERWARE!"
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Nov 16, 2011 22:09
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flashy_mcflash posted:Oh my...but she....gently caress man. People paid for this? It's TNA so I'm sure very few people actually paid for it.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:23
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Oatgan posted:It's TNA so I'm sure very few people actually paid for it. Even one is too many. I watched that vid, what, two hours ago? And I'm still having flashbacks. It's the laced LSD of wrestling matches.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:27
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Cardboard Box posted:Nah, it was before that. There were also large crowds in WWF and WCW doing it at the same time. Maybe during the Flair/Herd dispute? Or is that too early?
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Nov 16, 2011 22:59
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Gaz-L posted:Maybe during the Flair/Herd dispute? Or is that too early? I can't say exactly when, I'm not a wrestling historian by any means. I just know they've been going on pretty much ever since Flair become a big star.
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Nov 16, 2011 23:23
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Remember you can't do chops in WWE because Vince doesn't like people WOOOOOOOing.
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Nov 17, 2011 00:00
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LordPants posted:Remember you can't do chops in WWE because Vince doesn't like people WOOOOOOOing. He should just get Alex Riley to do the "WOOOOOOOOOOO!" so Vince can claim it's an ode to Riley.
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Nov 17, 2011 00:10
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LordPants posted:Remember you can't do chops in WWE because Vince doesn't like people WOOOOOOOing. Wow, you're right. I actually can't remember the last time I've seen a chop in WWE now.
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Nov 17, 2011 01:09
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I think Punk used to throw them out every now and again, but I can't remember seeing one in this calendar year. Maybe during HHH / Taker at WrestleMania, but I'm doubtful of that.
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Nov 17, 2011 01:17
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What was the match where Ted Dibiase got hit by a full soda while giving a speech in the ring? You can see the yellow security guards rush the guy in the background it was excellent. For the record I'm pretty sure it was an old wrestlemania on VHS where I saw this about 10 years ago.
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What is the state of TNA lately, ratings-wise? I have not kept up with it outside of watching it for five minutes every month or so, but I was looking at TV by the Numbers' ratings and noticed the IMPACT rating was at 0.6. I don't know what the rating posters use for the 1.1 is exactly, as in demographics, but that caught my eye. Is TNA doing worse these days?
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TNA never changes. No matter what they try or who they pull out, the ratings never shift more than .1 or so.
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Nov 17, 2011 02:51
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Same 1.0-1.2 range they've done since they moved back to Thursday.
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Nov 17, 2011 02:51
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Cardboard Box posted:Wow, you're right. I actually can't remember the last time I've seen a chop in WWE now. I remember when this was first announced, it felt like I was seeing chops constantly with WOOs! afterwards so I didn't pay it any mind. I can't think of seeing any recently though, but I also haven't really been paying attention.
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LividLiquid posted:Same 1.0-1.2 range they've done since they moved back to Thursday. Isn't ROH drawing similar or better ratings on a smaller network? Or am I just making that up?
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Nov 17, 2011 03:56
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LordPants posted:Isn't ROH drawing similar or better ratings on a smaller network? Or am I just making that up? They are in some Sinclair markets according to Dave, but due to the much lower number of homes the show is in those ratings do not translate anywhere near the number of viewers TNA gets.
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MassRayPer posted:They are in some Sinclair markets according to Dave, but due to the much lower number of homes the show is in those ratings do not translate anywhere near the number of viewers TNA gets. And given the decreased sample size, these numbers should be taken with an even bigger grain of salt than most Nielsen ratings.
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There's some young child who just got into professional wrestling, but his parents didn't watch the WWE. They watch TNA. And the first big heel stable he will have ever seen was the Main Event Mafia. I'm not sure how I feel about that. When did Mark Henry's current heel push begin? I never watch Smackdown.
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rotinaj posted:There's some young child who just got into professional wrestling, but his parents didn't watch the WWE. They watch TNA. And the first big heel stable he will have ever seen was the Main Event Mafia. Imagine all of the girls who grew up in Tennessee being told one day they'll grow up and marry Jerry Lawler, but if they hit 19 and he hasn't kissed them yet they might as well move onto a Jarrett or Rich.
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