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jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

fivegears4reverse posted:

Unless you think Rin complaining about how Shirou is a Grade S oval office Destroyer minutes afterwards is important, but that's a different conversation, so why don't you have a seat over there?

OK that does it. No more porn scene chat. We are on a new page now let's try not to soil it. There are zero porn scenes in Fate/Zero let's talk about that instead.

Apparently that new project Newtype was talking about was mini-Nedoroids.

I am sure they will be adorable.

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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Caught up to about Episode 5 now.

Caster is one of the few characters I have ever legitimately been scared by in anything and I can't wait to see more of him. Gilgamesh, Lancer, Rider and Berserker are all amazing. Saber... I can never get used to her presence, I've read the VN, played the games, watched the dumb anime and am loving the hell out of this, but I still can't get used to her after all of this time, it's a wonder how I've gone through so much Fate stuff with this still bugging me.

Saber and Lancer's fight in the fourth episode was fantastic and it's one of the few times I'm probably going to hate Rider simply because I wanted to see it continue. The mexican stand-off in episode 5 was stupid, but I have to admit I do like how they're not making out Kariya to be that sympathetic given what he does later and what his real intentions were..

Oh yeah, I've been going through some of Zero's music and found two great pieces that haven't been posted yet, Berserker's theme (Spoilers in the comments if you need less reason to read them) is somehow :rock: mixed with :black101: and Sword of Promised Victory is just... wow.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Sex_Ferguson posted:

Oh yeah, I've been going through some of Zero's music and found two great pieces that haven't been posted yet, Berserker's theme (Spoilers in the comments if you need less reason to read them) is somehow :rock: mixed with :black101: and Sword of Promised Victory is just... wow.

This is from the ZIZZ Studio album. ZIZZ is the music group that has done music for most of Nitro+'s games. Yuki Kajiura is great and all, but ZIZZ deserves another shot at making an anime OST.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

jonjonaug posted:

Fate/Zero let's talk about that instead.

Ok fine. This episode sure was boring. Also it's a good thing I didn't watch it until today because that only leaves two days until the next one. Of course in a perfect world I would have never watched it in the first place.

Zahki
Nov 7, 2004

When will the anime OST be released? The music in this series is really good.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Zahki posted:

When will the anime OST be released? The music in this series is really good.

It's being released as part of the BD box set release in March.

Randomzx
Jul 26, 2007

jonjonaug posted:

OK that does it. No more porn scene chat. We are on a new page now let's try not to soil it. There are zero porn scenes in Fate/Zero let's talk about that instead.

Apparently that new project Newtype was talking about was mini-Nedoroids.

I am sure they will be adorable.

Well there's already a crossover Nedoroids game with FSN characters in the works.

warning! might give diabetes.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Sex_Ferguson posted:

Saber... I can never get used to her presence, I've read the VN, played the games, watched the dumb anime and am loving the hell out of this, but I still can't get used to her after all of this time, it's a wonder how I've gone through so much Fate stuff with this still bugging me.
She's just honestly a pretty boring character. She served her purpose for FSN's overall narrative but there's a reason Fate is the worst route and it's not just because of Shirou's sexism.

Zahki
Nov 7, 2004

jonjonaug posted:

It's being released as part of the BD box set release in March.

It's not being released stand alone? Only part of the BD pack? That blows.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Nate RFB posted:

She's just honestly a pretty boring character. She served her purpose for FSN's overall narrative but there's a reason Fate is the worst route and it's not just because of Shirou's sexism.

Worse, because all of Saber's character development happened in Fate, all we're going to see in F/Z is :geno:.

But then, that's what everyone else is for. :v:

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation
For a moment there I thought you were making a Saber Alter reference.

Golden Battler
Sep 6, 2010

~Perfect and Elegant~
You know, in F/SN it always kinda bugged me how apparently everyone was fooled into thinking Saber was a man. I mean, putting aside armored skirt, she still just didn't strike me as looking like a guy really at all. On the other hand, in Fate/Zero, with her dressed up in a suit and with a ponytail instead of a bun, she actually legitimately looks like a blond pretty boy.

I guess the clothes make the man after all :v:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I don't think anyone called Saber a man in F/SN at all? At least, that I can remember... granted it's been a while.

Also, I wouldn't call Saber's boring. She's reserved, yeah, but she's also a pretty interesting character at least in my opinion.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Saber became interesting to me only when she had a foil. Whether it was Gilgamesh, Assassin or Archer, she was actually interesting when her ideals were clashing with one of them, without a foil I really couldn't care much for her. Saber's not so much boring to me as she's sort of just... there. I love the Knight's Code and the kinds of characters it brings forth (Gawain in Fate/Extra is a pretty awesome character) as you've seen with Zero Lancer, but Saber's just one I can never really get behind for some reason.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Endorph posted:

I don't think anyone called Saber a man in F/SN at all? At least, that I can remember... granted it's been a while.

Probably referring to everyone in Saber's time being fooled by it.

Omniphile
Apr 5, 2010

Love? Justice? Pah! I'll crush them all!
Saber's been depicted with this massive fur-lined cape in a fair amount of Takeuchi's art, maybe that helped. Her hairstyle is still a very girly bun though.

I liked Saber in FSN. She's basically the cool stoic warrior type in the body of a pint-sized blonde girl. I'll admit that Fate/zero brings up a lot more of the issues with her character, particularly in contrast to Kiritsugu's pragmatism.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

McTimmy posted:

Probably referring to everyone in Saber's time being fooled by it.

And the answer to that is "a wizard did it."

Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011
I remember liking Saber a lot when I read the VN, but I can't quite remember what she was like before looking at all the spin offs and fan art, now all I can think of is food and lions.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Saber is the most boring character in the show. Mainly because everyone else is at least written to be a somewhat interesting character and they are getting some screen time. Saber is just there like a piece of scenery.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Sex_Ferguson posted:

(Gawain in Fate/Extra is a pretty awesome character)

But all he's got going for him is an EX rank in Trash Talking!

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

ROYAL
STRAIGHT
FLUSH

jonjonaug posted:

There are zero porn scenes in Fate/Zero let's talk about that instead.


Is it true that Rider and Waver sleep in the same bed? confirm/deny.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Kweh posted:

Is it true that Rider and Waver sleep in the same bed? confirm/deny.
Wouldn't you?

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Kweh posted:

Is it true that Rider and Waver sleep in the same bed? confirm/deny.

I have a distinct feeling that we're going to find out next Comiket.

Omniphile
Apr 5, 2010

Love? Justice? Pah! I'll crush them all!
^^

Next Comiket? More like any given search of the Fate/zero tag on Pixiv.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Omniphile posted:

^^

Next Comiket? More like any given search of the Fate/zero tag on Pixiv.

Well yes, but in greater detail.

Yeah Man
Oct 9, 2011

And if you had, you know, a huge killer robot at your command, yeah, that would just clutter things up; and a lesser person might want that kind of overwhelming force on their side, but you know - where's the challenge in that?
I like Saber because it presents a bit of contrast. Where everyone else is pretty goddamn hammy and over-the-top, Saber is more reserved and quiet.

Basically, it's like cranberry sauce in a Thanksgiving meal. You can't enjoy it as much if you don't clean out the taste now and then.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Well some lucky person here, we all know who, might be in luck.
https://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/fatestay-night-realta-nua-is-getting-an-official-pc-port/

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

Lostconfused posted:

Well some lucky person here, we all know who, might be in luck.
https://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/fatestay-night-realta-nua-is-getting-an-official-pc-port/
I find that rather surprising. I imagine that around 99.9% of the people interested in playing F/SN have already done so. I don't think it will sell in significant numbers.

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation
I have a sneaking suspicion they may re-add the h-scenes to this (because otherwise it's basically redundant in the Japanese market except for people who still don't own a PS2) but if not I'll pick it up for sure. And even if they do, I'm sure a lot of people would probably be interested in the chance to pick up the PC version with enhanced graphics and voice acting for less than like a hundred dollars. I have apparently also become Voldemort, which is a little worrying.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer

BlitzBlast posted:

Worse, because all of Saber's character development happened in Fate, all we're going to see in F/Z is :geno:.

But then, that's what everyone else is for. :v:

This isn't exactly true. I love F/Z's character development, and that goes for not just Kiritsugu and Kotomine but Saber as well. I don't know how well the fine details will survive the transition from page to screen, and it's not entirely evident just yet, but IIRC there should be a big hint about Saber's character arc in tomorrow's episode. Pay close attention to (fairly minor spoiler)what she says she would wish for with the grail. It's not the same thing she says she'd wish for in FS/N, and the second half of Zero shows what made her change.

She's a little lacking in Stay/Night but I felt that was more a matter of her route being poorly written and burdened with introductory exposition, as well as Rin and Sakura getting mroe attention paid to them. Saber gets a little bit better in additional material like Hollow Ataraxia, and some of my favorite bits with her character are from Zero.

In other news, the creator of Baccano/Durarara tweeted that there might be a little something interesting in the commercials of tomorrow's Zero episode. Popular speculation is that it'll be a second season of one of those two shows, though with all the Type-moon hubbub happening there is always the possibility that something's being done with his Fate Strange/Fake material.

Lostconfused posted:

Well some lucky person here, we all know who, might be in luck.
https://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/fatestay-night-realta-nua-is-getting-an-official-pc-port/

Curious how they say it won't be exactly the same. It might be a bit of a long shot, but since they're obviously releasing this to try to sell to any viewers who are just getting into the franchise from Zero, I wonder if they're going to add a little bit here and there to help tie the two works together? Urobuchi was pretty good about maintaining continuity with Stay/Night, but there's still a couple of little plot holes when you look Stay/Night after having read Zero.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...
I dont know about you guys, but I am very very psyched for the upcoming episode thats about to show up in 6 hours...... any episode with raidah is the best episode :black101:

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
New episode is up. Brace for awesome.

"You aren't wearing your fashionable suit tonight?" Oh, Rider. :allears:

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

jonjonaug posted:

New episode is up. Brace for awesome.

"You aren't wearing your fashionable suit tonight?" Oh, Rider. :allears:

Grail drinking party is the best drinking party.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
Even Bucephalus gets to be a heroic spirit. I love this show.

InsaneZero
Feb 16, 2011
Ionioi Hetairoi was goddamn boss.

Also, am I the only one that noticed that Tokiomi makes no appearance in this episode despite having a line in the episode preview? Probably a scene that'll be added back in for the Blu-rays.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

InsaneZero posted:

Ionioi Hetairoi was goddamn boss.

Also, am I the only one that noticed that Tokiomi makes no appearance in this episode despite having a line in the episode preview? Probably a scene that'll be added back in for the Blu-rays.

He has a scene directly before and directly after Rider's drinking party in the books. I'm guessing they were both cut for time, this episode didn't even have an OP.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

NOTHING ODD IN THIS EPISODE


NOTHING AT ALL

Also I just noticed this but that soldier with long dark hair looks suspiciously like El Melloi the 2nd.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
God this show owns so much.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Waver: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyboom:

This episode was amazing.

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FrantzX
Jan 28, 2007
Rider going off on Saber for her dream of being king sounded alot like Rin & Archer going off on Shirou for his dream of being a superhero.

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