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Eddie Bravo's band 'Smoke Serpent' just released a new single entitled 'Jiu Jitsu'. You're welcome. Hahaha  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Y_m0wZxsw
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Being taller does make certain parts of grappling harder. With shorter people who have a lower center of gravity it's easier to do shots, bear hugs, leg trips and poo poo. Longer legs and arms makes things like guard and a bunch of submission easier.
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I'm so pissed at myself right now. Was at my second sparring session ever for Muay Thai. After we do some 2 for 2, 3 for 3 drills we're doing 1 person the center in with 4 other people rotating in for 1 minute each. So the guy in the center is in for a total of 4 minutes. I'm the last guy to be in the center for 4 minutes. I'm doing alright, but definitely gassed out, last guy comes in and proceeds to corner me and keep the pressure on. They know I'm the new guy so he's not blasting me, but just a lot of punches. He's taller than me with a longer reach. I'm shelled up behind my gloves and my coach is telling me to circle out, which I'm trying to do, but he's keeping the pressure on. Coach calls "Break!", I'm getting my poo poo pushed in and I think he's calling the end of the round. We break, I walk off and sit down against the wall. He's all "What are you doing!? You got 30 seconds left!" gently caress Stand up and go back at it for a moment. Round ends. Coach says "We'll have to work out something else, we can't have you sitting down in the middle of the round. Maybe we rushed you into sparring." I tried to explain what I thought happened but he didn't seem to convinced/happy. He said I can show up to the sparring drills (3 for 3 type stuff) but maybe not the actual sparring. I'm going to go back to sparring on Friday and ask for a second chance. If not I guess I'll just hang out and watch after class.
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Dec 11, 2011 05:02
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Don't worry about it. It's pretty hard to communicate effectively after you just sparred for a round, bereft of human language faculties, and with a mouthguard still in. Explain yourself later and see what he says. His assessment might not have been just over the sit-down alone.
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Dec 11, 2011 05:16
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Does BJJ involve ANY striking attacks?
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Dec 11, 2011 07:54
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Mr Interweb posted:Does BJJ involve ANY striking attacks? The way almost all places will teach BJJ, no, there won't be any real strikes. But you will still get bruised up from limbs banging into each other. If a BJJ gym you're looking at drills "attacker leads with this goony strike, you defend with this technique" extensively, I'd look elsewhere.
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Dec 11, 2011 08:10
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Mr Interweb posted:Does BJJ involve ANY striking attacks? No.
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Dec 11, 2011 08:18
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henkman posted:Being taller does make certain parts of grappling harder. With shorter people who have a lower center of gravity it's easier to do shots, bear hugs, leg trips and poo poo. Longer legs and arms makes things like guard and a bunch of submission easier. Leg trips are way easier with long legs.
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Dec 11, 2011 10:49
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:No. They do happen by accident though! *headbutts rolling partner after a bad takedown*
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Dec 11, 2011 13:33
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I learned the Most Ridiculous Sweep today. Take double underhooks from butterfly guard, lever your opponent upwards enough so you can scramble under into a firemans carry position, then follow through as if doing the fireman's carry. Absolutely ridiculous and i'm going to try the hell out of that next time i'm on the mat. edit: holy poo poo Ligur what did you say to earn THAT avatar 
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Dec 11, 2011 16:30
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Rids! posted:Leg trips are way easier with long legs. Okay well then maybe I just suck at them.
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Dec 11, 2011 18:01
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henkman posted:Okay well then maybe I just suck at them. Focus on what your hips are doing when you are trying to trip/foot sweep someone. If your hips are back and your posture is bent, it won't work.
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Dec 11, 2011 18:44
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Paper Diamonds posted:I'm so pissed at myself right now. Was at my second sparring session ever for Muay Thai. After we do some 2 for 2, 3 for 3 drills we're doing 1 person the center in with 4 other people rotating in for 1 minute each. So the guy in the center is in for a total of 4 minutes. I'm the last guy to be in the center for 4 minutes. Just for future reference, yelling 'Break' usually means break and reset. Usually the ref will call it when you're stalemated (in a boring clinch), so get used to hearing it a lot. Your only real relief is the bell.
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Dec 11, 2011 20:28
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Mr Interweb posted:Does BJJ involve ANY striking attacks? BJJ tournaments don't allow strikes and most places don't teach BJJ beyond the tournament stuff. There might be a few strikes in the same sense that Judo has strikes, but I'm not sure.
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Dec 12, 2011 00:14
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Traditional BJJ has no strikes and most tournaments won't allow it. If they allow striking they move into mma/sport jujitsu.
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Dec 12, 2011 03:06
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sometimes we wing open handed palm strikes at each other to practice self defense takedowns. So no we don't "train" strikes but we sometimes "do" them.
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Dec 12, 2011 04:39
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From the grappling thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBogci4cze0
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Dec 12, 2011 04:58
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I've got to get a new guy ready to spar as quickly as possible. He's got good cardio/strength and is pretty non-flinchy in comparison to a lot of new guys. What drills do I focus on?
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Dec 13, 2011 05:49
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Fontoyn posted:I've got to get a new guy ready to spar as quickly as possible. He's got good cardio/strength and is pretty non-flinchy in comparison to a lot of new guys. Just let him spar some guy with lots of control and can ramp up and down the speed/output as needed? As long as his technique and tactics are all there.
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Dec 13, 2011 08:19
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But if he's a new guy as I understood it i.e. new to the sport, his technique and tactics aren't at all there  Also what was it that Fontoyn needs to have this guy spar in, BJJ? Ninjitsu?
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Dec 13, 2011 12:40
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just spar him.
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Dec 13, 2011 15:14
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You said he was in shape, and was eager to spar, but not if he had trained in anything, ever. Do some some basic drills like 1,2,kick combos on pads or put them on a bag and see what they do. Go from there.
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Dec 13, 2011 16:12
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Fontoyn posted:I've got to get a new guy ready to spar as quickly as possible. He's got good cardio/strength and is pretty non-flinchy in comparison to a lot of new guys. Spar what? boxing? kickboxing? thai boxing? MMA?
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Dec 13, 2011 21:36
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I'm going to Heidelberg, Germany on Christmas and need a place to train some man-grapple or face-punching. Looking at this place (http://www.boxgymnasium.de/index.php?id=2). Anyone know anything about it? The close-up shots of sweaty abs and biceps puts me off a little... Anything else near the place?
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Dec 13, 2011 23:49
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TheStampede posted:He's really not trained at all, besides being not flinchy. The guy is some rich man involved in one of those charity boxing events. It's straight Thai Boxing with headgear and shinguards. Rounds are 3x3mins. Last night we spent most of the time going back and forth with the basic counters, only blocking/parrying instead of him or me holding pads.
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First BJJ lesson today. it was no gi and was pretty awesome. The class is split up into beginner and advanced so I was actually learning something for once. Another guy started today aswell and he does MMA but I totally schooled him even though he was 20kg heavier than me, it felt amazing to sweep him almost every time. I can't believe I picked up so much from the ne waza. Feels extremely weird without the gi, way more intimate than I'm used to but it was great. The owner wanted me to stay and try the muay thai class which started after BJJ but grappling is in my heart so I'll specialise for now.
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Nierbo posted:First BJJ lesson today. it was no gi and was pretty awesome. The class is split up into beginner and advanced so I was actually learning something for once. Another guy started today aswell and he does MMA but I totally schooled him even though he was 20kg heavier than me, it felt amazing to sweep him almost every time. I can't believe I picked up so much from the ne waza. Feels extremely weird without the gi, way more intimate than I'm used to but it was great. The owner wanted me to stay and try the muay thai class which started after BJJ but grappling is in my heart so I'll specialise for now. Great to know you found a way to continue grappling even if Judo wasn't enjoyable anymore. Let's hope you can crosstrain judo and bjj eventually!
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Fontoyn posted:I've got to get a new guy ready to spar as quickly as possible. He's got good cardio/strength and is pretty non-flinchy in comparison to a lot of new guys. That sounds like a good idea to start with since he's not Flinchy McPanic. First you have to teach the basic punches, kicks, blocks and evasions right. [Start meaningful part of the post.] Then try this: Pair him up, pick roles, role A) and role B). Use 4 minute rounds (or why not 3 if that's what you aim for, but you can go longer because this isn't as tiring as free sparring). During the first round A) attacks with one punch and one punch only, and role B) immediately counters with a single punch of his own. Both use all the hand strikes in their repertoire and of course attempt to block, parry, slip and do whatever they can not to get hit. After two minutes switch roles without pausing the round and now B) begins and A) counters. The tempo should be fast not bang... bang... bang... yawn... Or even bang bang.... bang bang... but bang bang bang bang bang bang bangbangbangbangbang. That said, you shouldn't be going very hard. Fast, accurate but definitely control the force. After round #1 rest for 60 seconds and start round #2. Round #2 is the same drill, but this time role A) attacks with a two punch combination instead of just one, and as soon as he's unleashed his attack B) counters with two of his own. Again switch roles at the half-way point. After round #2 is done, rest for a minute and start round #3, with three punch combinations, and go on to round #4 with four punch combinations. Tell him him what he needs to improve the most while taking a little longer to rest and restart the drill with legs included. [/end meaningful part of the post.] Round #1 A) starts with one low (or medium) kick B) Counters with two punches and a kick. Naturally the order can and should vary considering distance etc: if A) finishes his leg technique from up close then punch him in the face, use body rotation to kick him in ribs or the thigh and finish with a straight to get out of there. Or throw a hook, a straight and disengage with a kick. Then A) comes at you again and tries to connect with his mighty single kick using feints or speed or whatever. At half point of the round switch roles again. Now A) has the advantage and may punish B) for flailing around like a retard and not controlling his strikes. The tempo should again be fast and everyone should have fun, too. Well I guess most of this is pretty clear anyway but this is for the benefit of all the Judo people or something. In this type of drilling you are going to get hit probably, especially when you are the one starting with a single strike and the other person knows he can rapidly land a series while you can only block or slip them, but that's the loving idea. Round #2 A) starts with a kick and a punch B) counters with three strikes, 2 kicks and 1 punch or 1 kick and 2 punches. Round #3 A) starts with 2 kicks + 1 punch or the other way around B) counters with 2 kicks + 2 punches. Round #4 A) starts with 2 + 2 B) the same. The variations are many. You can drill something specific, for example have the last strike always be a defensive kick (which the other must with great pains immediately counter past). Someone smarter than me has said training in more than four strike combinations goes outside the scope of what could happen in an actual fight, if even that, but hell you can train longer combinations once in a while just to learn people in chaining a lot of their wild swings. There's a few things to keep in mind I guess. Better have the shorter person start the round. Then people don't have to pick and second, he can control the range at first. The drill sort of fails if people start running away i.e. they throw a single kick or punch and then retreat at full speed, laughing as they go. This would make them idiots, of course, but it happens. You want to stay in range no matter which role you LARP. Throw your strikes, stick with your position and block the combination which follows and BANG can you use your single punch or kick to actually hit this time. Muahahaha. This type of drilling has a bunch of advantages. It's a cross between non contact and sparring and thus prepares you for sparring better than hitting pads, watching UFC or drinking beer. People who dislike getting hit will get hit almost no matter what and have to deal with it (or gently caress off because someone punched them in the face, but then maybe sparring wasn't their thing to begin with). Even with disparity in size and skill it gives everyone an opportunity to land something. It teaches distancing and how to properly use combinations against someone looking to avoid them without having to test it in a sparring ring against some monster - and imposes an element of control for those beginners who would flail their arms and legs in random directions, turn their back and use illegal strikes in panic. It fortifies the soul, improves reflexes and is good cardio preparation for actual sparring because the long duration of the drill forces you to RELAX (as soon as you stop being scared of someone touching you). Superior to drilling against the pads, the bag or an un-resisting target (hello TMA's... tho you also rule in your own way)! Also I'm not by any means saying only beginners should do these drills, a beginner vs more experienced is a good combination for learning. TLDR; punch each other in turn. There's a Mexican coach with 30+ years of Savate/MT/Kickboxing behind him who uses this type of drill to teach new(er) people. He was based in Monterrey but recently moved to Finland (considering what Monterrey has turned into the past 5 years I'm not surprised) and as far as I know his gym put out a lot of decent full contact fighters. In Finnish Savate we call drilling like this pingpong and it's commonly used as warmup. However Samuel, the Mexican guy, has a class each week for newer practitioners which basically consists of a solid hour or more of the above and not much else, coming close to 45+ min of people just punching each other in turn and then the rest between periods. Some like it better than a sparring only class where they might feel overwhelmed and find this beneficial on the way there, some don't, because getting tagged every other second is uncomfortable, but there are different technique classes they can go to and contemplate the correct back leg footing in a chasse lateral tournant median instead so it's cool. Ligur fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 14, 2011 |
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The class that runs after us is on haitus until the middle of January, so starting last night we added an hour of newaza randori to the end of our Judo classes. I am so sore today, it's awesome.
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Since I haven't pimped our "Martial Arts Goons" Fitocracy group in a while... We're up to 59 members with probably around half regularly posting their workouts (the generic Goon group is around 2,000 members last I checked). I still think it's cool to take this thread a step further and actually see and discuss people's workouts. Here's the group invite link. Our group code is "8EVVT", though I have no idea if you actually need that.
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Joined the group because I just signed up for 1 year of BJJ class after my free week. I'll have to remember to post my workouts once I can walk (sore as gently caress).
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haha I just noticed that some random white belt is the duke (or whatever they call it) of our bjj gym on yelp. I need to remember to check in and bury that guy.
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Thoguh posted:Since I haven't pimped our "Martial Arts Goons" Fitocracy group in a while... We're up to 59 members with probably around half regularly posting their workouts (the generic Goon group is around 2,000 members last I checked). I still think it's cool to take this thread a step further and actually see and discuss people's workouts. Here's the group invite link. Our group code is "*EVVT", though I have no idea if you actually need that. I'm gonna second this. Gives me a little more motivation to hit the gym and train even if work has me a little tired.
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So there's a guy at our club that came in with an attitude. He likes to go full strenght and claim he'S so much better than "x" and "y" person that are higher rank than him and he should get a better belt (he's yellow). But what he's doing is basically just beating girls and small guys that are way weaker than him physically. Teacher sent me on a mission to put him in his place. On the ground it was pretty fun just choking him with triangle chokes mostly or getting a good kesa and putting a lot of pressure so he wasn't enjoying himself. He strangely tried to avoid me all night after that. But I wasn't feeling so good about trying to beat him silly standing up because injuries come fast... I did a couple of harai maki komi and I think he got the message after cause he didn't want to fight anymore. I really don't like to do that kind of thing usually but the guy was really being a misogynistic rear end in a top hat so it was warranted. Have any of you guys done that or has it happened at your club? How did you guys deal with assholes? It's the first one since I'm in this club. KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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Dec 16, 2011 03:36
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Sooooo thats what everyones doing to me...
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KingColliwog posted:So there's a guy at our club that came in with an attitude. He likes to go full strenght and claim he'S so much better than "x" and "y" person that are higher rank than him and he should get a better belt (he's yellow). But what he's doing is basically just beating girls and small guys that are way weaker than him physically. I think I've seen it happen at every place I've trained. One time our master hired a new office assistant who started kickboxing with us, he had some experience before and it seems when there was low supervision he would beat up the early teen kids in the class. It finally came to light when he broke their nose and was told to get the hell out. So he was a jerk. Another time there was a gent claiming credentials as an Army Ranger and pretty much telling us we were nothing compared to him. So when it came time for sparring he was asked if he wanted to and jumped in. A few moderate leg kicks and the tears started to flow and he never came back. We eventually found out he failed out of Ranger school and liked to pretend. I'm not sure what engenders dick waving amongst people you're supposed to train with and grow better with/from. Beyond friendly joking it's kind of childish.
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On Wed, I saw some new guy getting tooled by an affiliate school's coach, a guy who's 200+ lbs of pure muscle and with the kind of power to knock people down in regular sparring. Whatever that kid did must have rubbed the coach the wrong way, cuz he was barely able to stand after a few leg kicks. Not even full power ones, just stiff ones. When the poor guy could summon the guts to fight back, he was throwing pretty hard, so maybe that's what he did the first round or so.
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I guess it could always be that some folks have the wrong impression and think if they come in and beat down the guys already training it will get them something special.
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TheKingslayer posted:I'm gonna second this. Gives me a little more motivation to hit the gym and train even if work has me a little tired. Behold the power of virtual level achievements! 
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Come March, my instructor of three years is now moving, and our club will be without any properly "qualified" instructor. Luckily, the students set up a board and took over the management and adminstration of the club a year and a half ago, and I like to think we did that part better than our instructor ever did it anyway, so thankfully, that won't be an issue. The bigger issue is with the training itself, since the most experienced of us have only been training for about four years. I don't like the idea of our instructor leaving, and I guess I always fancied that I'd leave before he did, and I'll definitely miss having him in the club-- and then there's also the matter of legitimacy. We have enough skilled people in the club to take over basic instruction, and we can still fly in people to do (tjj) gradings and instruction, but we now lack that one person in the club that was more or less untouchable. There's also the marketing approach. People are simple, and having a higher belt (he is brown, so is his belt) probably does help with the initial impression of a club-- more so than seeing that the instructor is a skinny nerd with the same belt as half the students. I'm open to suggestions or hearing about other people's experiences with instructor exodus, but I can say what our current plan is to remedy the lack of general competance. Basically, since we don't have the talent of our instructor for teaching, we're going to micromanage the gently caress out of this thing and create a bi-annual syllabus to go through, to make the transition from one to several less qualified (but specialized) instructors will run more smoothly-- Because that's the other obstacle. We only have four two hour classes a week, but none of us alone have a schedule that would allow attending and instructing every class. Luckily, the same has been true for our instructor on several occasions, so out of the group of six we chose as the new instructors, we've all had several opportunities to teach previously, so it's not entirely new territory. I'll mainly be teaching BJJ stuff, since that is the only thing I'm decent at- but I'm also kind of wary of my own inexperience, and with just three years under my belt, I shouldn't really be instructing, but unfortunately, all the other new instructors are probably thinking the same thing, but if we want to keep the club going, we don't really have a choice in the matter! I'm also not super excited about the prospect of more responsibility, but that's mostly because my lizard brain automatically connects responsibility to work, and I fear I could start resenting it. On the positive side, I know you learn a poo poo ton when you teach, and this might actually help improve my jujitsu. Honestly, considering that I live in a desolate and forgotten artic town of barely 60.000 people, the fact that we manage to have a club with 45 paying members is pretty straight baller, and I hope we don't end up suffering a loss of TOO many members through this. Anyone else lost their SENSEI? Any suggestions for me and the board on how to approach this, beyond just meticiously planning the crap out of it? Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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