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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:How far along would you want to be in grappling before you did a seminar? I'm still just getting my legs under me, and I don't want to waste a few hundred bucks on something way over my head. That depends on how much money you have/can afford to spend. I'll say this in favor of seminars: I've never trained with someone at the world-class level without having come away better or having learned something that I might not otherwise have gotten. There's something special that happens when you're exposed to talent way above what you're familiar with, and there's really no way that the experience won't be beneficial to you. That being said whether or not it's worth it to you will depend on how easily you can afford the seminar.
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Great advice. My teacher is awesome, but we only meet 2 days a week. I like to train at least once or twice a week for conditioning on top of that too. I've recently been using focus mitts and gloves as it's a major warm-up activity for us. I've noticed in the first month that I am using my hips in ways I hadn't really thought of before, and that my hip movement/control will be crucial if I ever want to do a tourney. What are some more "sport specific" things I can do without a gym to work on my hips?
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Here's something I was typing up for my own benefit. Might as well drop it here to stir up conversation. I'm thinking about switching gyms this year, and made myself up a pros/cons list to try and help me weigh it up. I'd be keen if anyone with cage experience wants to have a look through and give me an opinion. I was thinking of kicking my training up a notch and taking a fight or two at the end of the year. Might as well take a fight or two before I pass my prime. I feel like I'll legitimize myself as a martial artist, even if I scrap MMA and just do BJJ/Judo for the rest of my life. But that's why I'm taking the decision so seriously, I intend to train the hardest I ever have and beat myself into the best shape of my life this year. Where's the new gym? Dip left advance? bummer I spent the last 6 months of last year flat-out working, now I'm taking like 3 months off and training thai every day at my "home" gym, it's a nice change of pace. Hoping to have an amateur fight in March
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Dewski posted:Great advice. backwards shrimping, and you could look up youtube vids of ginastica natural. better to have a mat but a lot of it could probably be done on a soft carpet. that poo poo is great
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Dewski posted:Finally did it. After reading through the entire thread, I've signed up for BJJ. The first few weeks have been great. Big picture stuff is good, but don't forget simple goals that you can accomplish as well. For instance, when you're in someones guard (a little more gi focused, but still good): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6csJu8vQjY Get that good posture, and stay square - your shoulders are in a square with their shoulders, if they move off angle, adjust to remain square on. You're going to have a blast, all you need to do is put the time in and stay positive! It might not feel like you're making any progress, because everyone is "leveling up" at more or less the same pace as you, but wait until a newbie comes in the door and you roll them, you'll see that this poo poo does actually work!
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I got punched it the jaw It was cool I'm bad at boxing
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Dont be afraid to put your weight on guys. Everyone is used to it, no one's going to think you're a dick for doing it, and the chances of hurting anyone is virtually zero. e: but dont slam either.
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A friend of mine had a muay thai fight in Thailand yesterday, and surprisingly the video is online already. Check it out if you like this sort of thing, I think he does pretty drat good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-vRygNc8hk&feature=player_embedded
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Kumo Jr. posted:A friend of mine had a muay thai fight in Thailand yesterday, and surprisingly the video is online already. Check it out if you like this sort of thing, I think he does pretty drat good. Dude looks like Sagat http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J-vRygNc8hk#t=219s This is the catch and counter I use the most. I think it's the safest and easiest. He does it beautifully here too
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I'd like everyone's opinion on this. If you had to pick two martial arts, one strike AND one grappling, which ones would you pick?
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Savate and BJJ. If I wanted to compete, mixing them both at the same time like you would in MMA, MT and wrestling. I, on the other hand wish to know if people pick bananas OR sweet potatoes/regular potatoes for some carbs to get through the days training
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Judo+Muay Thai. Jack of all trades, master of clinch. Bananas- I cramp easily.
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I'd probably go for Judo and muay thai because that strikes me as something that would make you well rounded, would be ridiculous fun to train and would make you feel like god as soon as you grabbed someone in stand up. Strikly for UFC style fights I'd go with Wrestling and Muay Thai probably. Also, bananas are best and require 0 preparation. Roasted bananas are particularly awesome... Toast and eggs make me particularly happy before training though.
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Capoeira and Greco-Roman. I want to do a spinning upside down suplex.
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Oops, I just had two full wheat rye toasts with greens, a slice of cheese and ground beef patties on top, then realized I have to do what probably amounts to 10-15 rounds of sparring in two hours. That wasn't a huge or even a particularly big meal but I might feel the beef... better go do some extra training before so I'll be used to the heavy tummy 
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I've done clinch work with the judo + mt guy. It's like fighting a god drat brick wall that can throw you when you try and throw a knee at him.
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Ligur posted:Oops, I just had two full wheat rye toasts with greens, a slice of cheese and ground beef patties on top, then realized I have to do what probably amounts to 10-15 rounds of sparring in two hours. That wasn't a huge or even a particularly big meal but I might feel the beef... better go do some extra training before so I'll be used to the heavy tummy I can eat pretty much anything except hot dogs if I have two whole hours to digest it. It helps that my stomach usually goes into panic mode about 20 minutes before training, or exactly 25 seconds before I have to leave the house. I never have to worry about constipation so long as I'm training, at least. With the exception of hot dogs. gently caress sausages and training.
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Bohemian Nights posted:I can eat pretty much anything except hot dogs if I have two whole hours to digest it. It helps that my stomach usually goes into panic mode about 20 minutes before training, or exactly 25 seconds before I have to leave the house. I never have to worry about constipation so long as I'm training, at least. That's how my body has always prepped for physical activity. It's like it's trying to expel anything extra that could slow me down.
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TheKingslayer posted:That's how my body has always prepped for physical activity. It's like it's trying to expel anything extra that could slow me down. Well now I know why I've always got to take a dump the moment I have my wraps on.
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I rolled with a legit heavyweight yesterday. It was like trying to bikini wax a grizzly. I started in his guard and he just bench-pressed me into the air before crushing me with side control. I'm a goony 230+ right now, and this tells me it would be loving suicide to compete at anything heavier than 185. Guess I shouldn't have had all that Nathan's for lunch. 
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long shot but does anyone have a link or copy/paste to the post from the old thread about the ninjitsu class where they shut the lights out and when they turned them back on, half the students were on the ground and there was a guy hanging upside down from the ceiling?
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They had forgone the healthy, delicious, potassium rich bananas and had kebab dinner instead, with extra fries just before class right? The guy hanging from the ceiling was trying to safely demonstrate wall climbing just when the guy who ran to the crapper mistook the general power switch for the toilet light. I have that figured out.
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Oh great. It's competition time again. 25-26. of February I get the opportunity to compete in bjj gi and nogi following ibjjf rules for both. I just have to decide whether or not my fragile psyche can handle another embarrassing tournament miss, except now I'll get to waste my time and money in the advanced class instead. But on the bright side, that's not as bad as the opportunity to lose spectacularly in white belt Gi.
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Bohemian Nights posted:Oh great. It's competition time again. 25-26. of February I get the opportunity to compete in bjj gi and nogi following ibjjf rules for both. I dunno if this is will help you or not but I recently developed a new mentality for competition that I feel has immensely helped my mental game (I used to get super bad nerves before I competed, like shaking and sweating before I even stepped on the mat). There is no mystery with a match. You will either win, or you will lose. Those are the only two possible outcomes. If you win, cool you won. If you lose, cool you have something new you KNOW you need to improve on. So relax and enjoy yourself, because if you're not enjoying what you're doing why do it? The idea behind this mentality is that the process of learning and improving is more important the the immediate result of winning, especially for us who are still new to MAs and competing. Even for those who are more experienced, there is still probably something that you can still be working to improve. That being said, good luck!
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Cortisone is awesome! Sprained my hamstring/possibly tore my meniscus at the very beginning of November and missed two months of training. I've been back the last ten days after getting a cortisone shot in my knee and after hurting like a bitch for about a week seems to have really helped a lot. I missed jiu jitsu so much I get a lil teary eyed thinking about it. There's something about strangling another human that just can't be replaced with any other recreational activity. I might still have a damaged meniscus but as long as my major ligaments are ok I'm not too bummed out. I'm both better and worse than I expected to be getting back on the mat. Passing any guard, playing half guard, and any attempt at butterfly have been horribly awkward and lovely feeling because of the pain and worry involved in compressing my knee all the way. I also have been getting crushed under side control from big guys because I can't shrimp that well on the bad leg so I just wait to go to turtle, let them try to take my back and work out from there. But for some reason I've been tapping people with the greatest of ease from my closed guard with the basic cross choke. I don't have any fancy set ups, I hardly ever hit it before, in fact I never really even thought about it rolling pre hurting myself. But I took two months off and now it's my favorite thing to do and I'm randomly successful with it. I find this really odd, I think my subconscious was doing something jiu jitsu related while I was drinking beer and eating pizza. Also, for any of the more advanced guys, what is your go to sweep when your opponent goes to defend the collar choke? I was thinking since you have the deep collar grip and they're bringing their hands up to defend, you can just grab the sleeve and you'd be in a good position to scissor sweep if you scoot back and get them up on your knee. I haven't actually tried this yet I was just thinking what to do when you don't quite have the choke in. Has anybody ever come back from injury or long breaks and actually feel like their technique sort of improved? I may just be kidding myself but the brain works in mysterious ways.
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Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks.
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LeapFrog posted:Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks. Do capoeira, then you'll become less shy as a bonus.
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LeapFrog posted:Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks. KingColliwog posted:Grappling is the heterosexual art of hugging big muscular dudes while furiously moving your hips around until the opponent can no longer take it. It is sometime done with a pajama on, sometime in form fitting synthetic clothing. So you need to learn how to move your hips furiously if you want to stand a chance
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LeapFrog posted:Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks. Kung Fu or Karate most definitely. People here will scream BJJ and wrestling because it's all they know, but Kung Fu and Karate will do wonders for fitness, and shyness. You're not forced at any point on the spot like with capoiera or boxing or wrestling, and can take your time to address the issues you need to address. Just make sure you are addressing them at some point.
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See a lot of people choosing Judo for a grappling art, but wouldn't jiujitsu be better, I mean, isn't judo just a more peaceful version of jiudjitsu? (isn't it?)
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I wouldn't describe Judo as peaceful... They both came from the same roots iirc and are very similar. As for which is better don't forget Kimura beat Hélio.
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LeapFrog posted:Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks. I wouldn't worry much about the art in itself. For a beginner, and especially on with social anxiety, I'd say the most important factor is the culture at the gym you go to. All martial arts, barring maybe stuff like ninjitsu, will give you a good workout when you are starting out anyway. So my suggestion is to check your local area for gyms, visit a few of them and go for the one where you feel most comfortable with the instructors and other students. Maybe make a quick check to make sure that the gym isn't one of those places that try and fleece thir students by locking them into long term contracts. When you have trained for a few months and start to get more comfortable you can start worrying about what specific martial art you would prefer and what you want to get out of it, self defence, competition or just exercise.
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LeapFrog posted:Is there a specific martial art you would recommend to someone who has never tried it before, wants to lose a bit of weight, has social anxiety and is shy? I've looked a bit into some different ones, but was wondering what you thought. Or if there's things I should know if I keep looking. Thanks. And if the kicking of, say, Kun Fu and Karate put you off, I know many 25+ guys who have flexibility issues and don't enjoy going through being awful at kicks for five years, just check out if there's a gym that offers boxing/fitness boxing on the side and go check it out. It doesn't need to be a place where they train pro's or anything.
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Actually yeah, boxing. Remember it's a martial art just as much as Judo or MT is. And if you are just starting even shadow boxing (can be done in your own room!) is really tiring/ good exercise.
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Mr Interweb posted:See a lot of people choosing Judo for a grappling art, but wouldn't jiujitsu be better, I mean, isn't judo just a more peaceful version of jiudjitsu? (isn't it?) Judo is more throw focused, while bjj is focused on what you do when you get to the ground. I'm not sure what 'peaceful' means in this context. Judo has a cool philosophy behind it, doing things efficiently and not wasting force, but you're also being thrown, so you're going to be taking those impacts. You've been asking these questions for a while now. I dont know if we can give you the answers you're looking for. Find out what's available in your area, talk to instructors, and sign up for a practice class, and dont worry about it so much.
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You can even post some of the places you find here if you are not uncomfortable with that, and ask us what our expert opinion™ is. We can spot McDojos, decent sports clubs (which could be what you are looking for) or serious martial arts gyms from thousands of miles away!
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Meat Recital posted:Judo is more throw focused, while bjj is focused on what you do when you get to the ground. I'm not sure what 'peaceful' means in this context. Judo has a cool philosophy behind it, doing things efficiently and not wasting force, but you're also being thrown, so you're going to be taking those impacts. "Peaceful" in the sense that judo's something to help you simply disable your opponents, whereas jiujitsu is something that causes you to maim/kill your opponent. quote:You've been asking these questions for a while now. I dont know if we can give you the answers you're looking for. Find out what's available in your area, talk to instructors, and sign up for a practice class, and dont worry about it so much. Honestly? It's cause I've been watching a lot of Human Weapon/Fight Quest, and there just seems to be so many cool martial arts. Each time I see something I like, I find another that seems pretty appealing too. I realize it may be annoying with all these questions, but I find them useful, since some people bring me back down to Earth when I'm in an enamored state with a certain martial art (someone in this thread mentioned jeet kun do is useless and silat probably doesn't exist and that made me sad). In any case, I do appreciate everyone's advice in this thread.
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Ligur posted:And if the kicking of, say, Kun Fu and Karate put you off, I know many 25+ guys who have flexibility issues and don't enjoy going through being awful at kicks for five years, just check out if there's a gym that offers boxing/fitness boxing on the side and go check it out. It doesn't need to be a place where they train pro's or anything. On that note, what are some good ways to improve flexibility, besides just kicking/grappling more? My flexibility remains abhorrent, can't land a decent high kick or do fancy leg control on the ground to save my life.
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Rhaka posted:On that note, what are some good ways to improve flexibility, besides just kicking/grappling more? My flexibility remains abhorrent, can't land a decent high kick or do fancy leg control on the ground to save my life. Stretching. It's really boring though, so I avoid doing it.
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