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drat it, if every single old PC game gets revitalized here I am going to run out of money. -still waiting for Freelancer 3-
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 13:29 |
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Quarex posted:Well, it is how they say it, so apparently it is. But I would hope it would be pronounced as two separate words. This may be a confusing semantic point for anyone who is not an easily-annoyed native English speaker (not to accuse you of anything, just trying to figure out why it would bother Yodzilla and I but not others). There is probably a linguistic term for what is going on there, where the words flow together so easily that it seems like an attempt to create a new word. "The Lingering Dead" probably did not sound as good to them, though. Yeah the way I hear it in my mind sounds like Nerdlinger.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 13:59 |
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Mojo Jojo posted:Yep, projects spend a few days being considered before they go live. The weird thing is that Kickstarter do reject some. You can imagine how bad they must be with some of the crap that seeps through. It could just be inappropriate content. Like it wouldn't surprise me if some gross people tried to kickstart a furry porn or something.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 14:08 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:It could just be inappropriate content. Like it wouldn't surprise me if some gross people tried to kickstart a furry porn or something. No, I've seen decent ideas get rejected (like the guy who had a modular terrain thing intended for tabletop RPGs - although in that case the guy could barely string a sentence together so it's not surprising). So, it's not as clear cut as "no porn".
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 14:28 |
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Edison Carter posted:Okay, I'm pretty critical of the Class of Heroes 2 Kickstarter too, but this is just a bit knee-jerk. He's not extorting money threatening a lovely translation. He's said several times it's just going to be a more literal localization, with no planned "upgrades" to the game, no english VA, no Japanese VA, etc. He's not going to half rear end the translation, he's just not going to go that extra mile to 'murican up the game like he wants to (and like he's essentially wanting to do to Idolmaster). The Kickstarter has plenty to be cynical about already without having to go all apeshit about it. The problem is he's been intentionally vague this entire time and shown to be lying before (at the start of the Kickstarter campaign, he said that if the project weren't successful only the beginning and ending songs would be undubbed, but in the past week or so he changed his tune to the KS campaign being determinant of whether or not there's english VA in the game at all). So, him out-and-out threatening the fanbase with the promise of a lovely job isn't really that ridiculous a notion, considering how little we know about how good of a job he's planning to do if the project is not backed.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 14:40 |
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Vrikkian posted:drat it, if every single old PC game gets revitalized here I am going to run out of money. There was never a freelancer 2? and Freelancer was a Microsoft game. there are a ton of 'high-profile' projects going up, makes me unsure about our indie game getting enough notice. I will still put it up and hope that we can get enough interest.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 15:01 |
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LumberingTroll posted:There was never a freelancer 2? and Freelancer was a Microsoft game. I'm sure he meant FreeSPACE, though I'd love to see a Freelancer 2.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 15:14 |
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LumberingTroll posted:There was never a freelancer 2? and Freelancer was a Microsoft game. I wouldn't worry about it It's not just a group of 100 thousand people who are the "gaming investment community" like someone said in one of the kickstarter threads. You've got people pledging to Wasteland because they played the first one, because they're fans of Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas, because they like turn-based RPGs, because they like old-school RPGs, because they like post-apocalyptic stuff, because they thought Brian Fargo's video was funny and have never played any Fallout or Wasteland games etc. There is some overlap with W2 and Shadowrun: Returns because they're a similar genre and the originals were from a similar time (RPG fans, turn-based fans, really old people like Quarex) but there'll be people who pledge to one and not the other, and people who've only pledged to Jane Jensen's thing and I'm not gonna list all the possibilities. Plenty of low-profile indie games get funded and do very well. See: Faster than Light, Stardrive, Star Command. Notice how there's tons of space themed stuff that did really well, like your game? NERDS LOVE SPACE poo poo. And even better, space games are really under-represented in the mainstream publisher-funded market (Mass Effect and Halo don't count).
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 15:44 |
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Mojo Jojo posted:Yep, projects spend a few days being considered before they go live. The weird thing is that Kickstarter do reject some. You can imagine how bad they must be with some of the crap that seeps through.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:21 |
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Armor-Piercing posted:So what you're saying is that someone looked at the Your World kickstarter and thought "yeah, that looks pretty solid"? A young millionaire who made almost all his money from the lottery did. You can draw a lot of conclusions from that.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:22 |
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Armor-Piercing posted:So what you're saying is that someone looked at the Your World kickstarter and thought "yeah, that looks pretty solid"? Even more baffling is this abomination.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:24 |
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SparkTR posted:Even more baffling is this abomination. $22! Of a $1,500 goal? Even I'd have made a pity pledge to have bumped that up to $100 just so they wouldn't feel so bad.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:26 |
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Nooo don't do that. The last thing someone like that needs is encouragement.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:32 |
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Yodzilla posted:Nooo don't do that. The last thing someone like that needs is encouragement. They'd still feel bad, just not as bad. And they wouldn't have even come within 10% of their goal so I doubt they'd try again.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:33 |
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Shadowrun just got funded
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:36 |
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NINbuntu 64 posted:They'd still feel bad, just not as bad. And they wouldn't have even come within 10% of their goal so I doubt they'd try again. My favorite part is the section where they explain what they'll do if they got overfunded to the tune of $25,000.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:42 |
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Palpek posted:Shadowrun just got funded yeah thats pretty goddamn amazing, 400k under 30 hours
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 16:43 |
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Proud to say $15 of that is mine. Now let's see how high above that they can get in 23 days...! $400,000 isn't exactly big budget game money, after all.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 17:05 |
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Looked around for more stuff to fund on Kickstarter. There's this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1424869054/tortured-hearts-or-how-i-saved-the-universe-again?ref=category On one hand, it's a huge RPG by some unknowns. On the other hand, it seems that these unknowns have already done two really popular and highly-rated 100+ hour NWN modules. Have any of you tried these modules?
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 17:30 |
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Megazver posted:Looked around for more stuff to fund on Kickstarter. There's this: I like how it looks, it gives me a pretty cool Dark Cloud 2 vibe and that's always a good thing to me.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 17:34 |
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I know what they were trying to acheive but they forgot to learn how to draw in 2d before doing a project like that. The linework is really bad which is especially apparent on doors and details - it looks amatourish and I wouldn't be able to stand this game. The 3d depth doesn't make cartoon drawings better because what you lose is the detail quality and if additionally there's no style to their art it looks even worse. Also drat if that "style" isn't a dead ringer for Google Sketchup.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 17:42 |
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Links to the modules: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=modules.detail&id=3799 http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=modules.detail&id=5347 Their site: http://torturedhearts.com/ Discussion thread on RPGWatch: http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16659 EDIT: They're not getting the money they want, no way. But I do think they have promise if they reevaluate their goals and do the Kickstarter again with more stuff to show to people. Megazver fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 5, 2012 |
# ? Apr 5, 2012 17:43 |
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IndieGoGo is an absolute wasteland. Is there any way I can use Kickstarter in Canada legally? Like some sort of company that is dedicated to this? Or is that not a thing?
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 18:32 |
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well this looks interesting. a post apocalyptic 64 man first person shooter. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2dawngames/ravaged
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 19:54 |
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njark posted:well this looks interesting. a post apocalyptic 64 man first person shooter. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2dawngames/ravaged "What makes our game different?" *list of things that tons of other games have done* Edit: The non-copper Statue of Liberty is really bug me. mutata fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 5, 2012 |
# ? Apr 5, 2012 20:07 |
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mutata posted:"What makes our game different?" Yeah that's a really bad list. However the game does look pretty decent though and unlike most kickstarters the goal is modest and there's a lot of the game in-action to see. In some ways it reminds me of that multiplayer Mercenaries game Pandemic was working on before they closed.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 20:29 |
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They only ask for $15,000 and it's for publishing it and testing as the game seems ready. The problem is that it looks like a copy of many ideas from different sources without enough original content (Ravaged=Rage) mixed with some generic weapons. I'm also not sure about its readiness - animations look wonky and something is off about the first person view - it reminds me of Just Cause 2 fps mod rather than a dedicated fps title. The vehicle videos look really cool though.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 21:01 |
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Palpek posted:I think Jane Jensen's will be the first "big name" kickstarter that will fail because apparently they weren't able to put together an inspiring presentation that would say or show anything about the game they want to make and went for writing a producer resume with the worst headshot sticked to it. After the insanity* of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter last day, how can you think this (or any big name) kickstarter will fail? They're already 1/6th of the way to the goal. It won't fail and neither will the Larry one. *Its obvious that the developers/planned donators are standing by ready to donate big on the last day to scoop up what money they can
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 21:12 |
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Palpek posted:Also it seems that Shadowrun has stopped the Larry HD's cashflow. The thing that pisses me off about Leisure Suit Larry HD is that they could do it for much, much cheaper if they would pull back on what they want to accomplish. There's no real reason why they need to do professional voiceover work (or any voiceover work, just keep it text only) or orchestra sound or a ton of ports right out the gate. Update the graphics, have Al Lowe come up with some new content if he wants to and get it out. It sucks even more since they said in the description that they are planning to redo the entire series and maybe even come up with a new game but you know they are never going to get past the first one.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 21:17 |
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the black husserl posted:After the insanity* of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter last day, how can you think this (or any big name) kickstarter will fail? They're already 1/6th of the way to the goal. It won't fail and neither will the Larry one. I never considered this and now that I do I realise how absofuckinglutely brilliant it is.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 21:28 |
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^^^ EDIT: Hardcore Tactical Shooter gathered $160,000 during it's whole run and the remaining $40,000 within the last hour. Gee, I wonder how that heppened. So yeah the idea is definatelly real and works.the black husserl posted:After the insanity* of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter last day, how can you think this (or any big name) kickstarter will fail? They're already 1/6th of the way to the goal. It won't fail and neither will the Larry one. Palpek fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 5, 2012 |
# ? Apr 5, 2012 21:28 |
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I hope if the Jane Jensen one fails we can get another good rant out of her about the state of video games these days.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:01 |
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Sporadic posted:The thing that pisses me off about Leisure Suit Larry HD is that they could do it for much, much cheaper if they would pull back on what they want to accomplish. There's no real reason why they need to do professional voiceover work (or any voiceover work, just keep it text only) or orchestra sound or a ton of ports right out the gate. The orchestra thing is what kills it for me. Part of the appeal of LSL is the chintsyness about it. They'd go a lot further with a jazz quartet. Al Lowe himself is a loving saxophone player anyway. He could do that himself. signalnoise fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 5, 2012 |
# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:17 |
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njark posted:well this looks interesting. a post apocalyptic 64 man first person shooter. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2dawngames/ravaged The problem with donating to this is that it is another Multiplayer-focused FPS which will likely die within a few months of release.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:31 |
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Tsurupettan posted:The problem with donating to this is that it is another Multiplayer-focused FPS which will likely die within a few months of release. Whatever happened to bots, people! Whatever happened to bots!?
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:34 |
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Yeah I actually asked them that and there's no plans for any sort of offline component at this time. I think I'm still going to support them but it's kind of a shame.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:38 |
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Mokinokaro posted:I'm sure he meant FreeSPACE, though I'd love to see a Freelancer 2. He must because that's the most deserving oldish PC game of them all.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:40 |
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Palpek posted:I can see Larry succeeding but the Jane one goes really slow compared to the other successful projects and it doesn't target a hardcore niche ready to organise themselves to back it. Of course it's all speculation either way. My point was more that this particular kickstarter seems kinda off and wouldn't bring in people who have no idea about those older games. Wasteland and Shadowrun were pitched really good - in a way that could even convince people who hear those names for the first time. Jensen's fans are mostly 40+ year olds and hidden object fans. They will donate slow, but they will donate. A lot of goons (not necessarily you) seem to be upset that these kickstarters aren't targeting them with cool gameplay videos or something, but appealing to vastly different audiences is one of the main strengths of kickstarter. Some people like the Jensen video.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 22:59 |
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the black husserl posted:Jensen's fans are mostly 40+ year olds and hidden object fans. They will donate slow, but they will donate. Yeah, sooner or later, they will figure out the button actually works like a button and is not a trap, so they will stop looking for an hidden one.
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 23:23 |
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Ravaged actually looks kind of great, though it fundamentally terrifies me that they call it a "first person shooter" without ever mentioning that it is a multiplayer-only game. I realize if you look half-way down the page you get to "you can't go it alone, you need your team!" but if I were less attentive I might think this was some super-high-concept single-player post-apocalyptic wargame. I probably only think that because I hate multiplayer games and think such a game would be awesome Tufty posted:There is some overlap with W2 and Shadowrun: Returns because they're a similar genre and the originals were from a similar time (RPG fans, turn-based fans, really old people like Quarex)
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# ? Apr 5, 2012 23:48 |