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Master_Odin posted:What's with everyone following the 3 guys 1 girl (one guy is black) team layout. Seriously, why can't we mix things up, ugh. Yeah man why can't we have two inuit women one melanesian man and one ambiguous maghrebi?
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Wow, Zombie Playground. Wow. This is very promising. Of course, that also leads into this discussion, and as to why I am sure I will not want to play it despite it looking great:Urdnot Fire posted:While I agree with you for the most part, I'm not getting your reasoning with this statement. It was never advertised as a single-player experience, and the whole point of it is four survivors teaming up. It's okay for some games to be focused on the multi-player experience. (Feel free to correct that assumption though, zombies are great) Also, I confess I had no idea that Left 4 Dead was always pitched as a multiplayer game. I just saw that it said "single-player/multiplayer" in the description on Steam before it came out, and it was not until after I saw some people playing it that it dawned on me that it probably had a single-player game in the same sense that Half-Life had a multi-player game. SupSuper posted:I wasn't trying to pick on any specific genres, they were just examples I quickly pulled out of thread. I could've used FPS/platformer/RPGmakers/etc but I'm pretty sure everyone's wore out of those to begin with. seorin posted:I think the problem is that these genres are so old, many of the people posting have no idea that the genres didn't used to be considered the same.
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May 23, 2012 08:07
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Master_Odin posted:What's with everyone following the 3 guys 1 girl (one guy is black) team layout. Seriously, why can't we mix things up, ugh. They have a fat kid, that's new. They also actually have more character. 
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May 23, 2012 08:34
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I like the 4 kids on the right, actually; Goonan the Barbarian, Road Warrior, Ragged Ann and Mirror's Edge Protagonist (Age 6). Who wouldn't want those characters as your protagonists? EDIT: I will play Goonan and never, ever stop.
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May 23, 2012 08:42
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If you look at the concept art in the stretch goals they actually have a lot of variation.
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May 23, 2012 09:08
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Feminist Frequency raised her $15,000 bonus goal. I think "Man with Boobs" and "Mrs. Male Character" have too much overlap, but I'm thrilled about "Positive Female Characters." It's hard to imagine her being positive for an entire video. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games The procedurally generated platformer is 3 days and less than $4,000 away from their goal. I'm not optimistic. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1564776348/the-hardest-platformer-ever Heran Bago fucked around with this message at 09:34 on May 23, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 09:10
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The MSJ posted:And we have another zombie game: Zombie Playground. This is the first time since Banner Saga I've been genuinely excited for a KS project. I dunno what it is-probably a mix of how impressively professional their pitch was, how good the concept art looks, and how realistic and well-thought-out their budget allocation/stretch goals are, but this needs its own thread. Really impressed. Just top-notch pitch from start to bottom. CommissarMega posted:Based on this, I assume? Pic's been around for quite a while, and I've even played a one-shot AFMBE game based on it; might be cool. Apparently the creator of that image is senior artist of the company making the game.
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May 23, 2012 09:36
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Davincie posted:If you look at the concept art in the stretch goals they actually have a lot of variation. I have to admit, it does have me curious- L4D's characters were pretty much interchangeable save for character banter, but Zombie Playground seems to indicate that each kid has his/her own special abilities, or are restricted to certain weapon sets (I hope the latter isn't the case; sounds too restrictive).
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May 23, 2012 09:37
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AntiPseudonym posted:Y'know the thing that bugs me the most, I don't think I've ever seen a GOOD zombie game that actually leverages the reason why zombies are supposed to be scary. A single zombie bite could remove all of your humanity, and every zombie used to be a person just like you. Having a game where even a single hit could start you on the slow decay to becoming a zombie, where you had to build relationships with people around you (That might even lie about being bitten themselves) and holding onto the slim hope that there might be a cure would make for an awesome zombie game. Wonder if they could set it up like Dead Rising: Have a city layout and instead of hunting down people in hiding and escorting them to saftey the human npcs would be the players. You have to find the others and start forming little groups to round up others and escape/survive. Make the supplies scarce and the player weak so they have reason to group up. Still plenty of potential for dickishness but still stresses teamwork and a strong sense of danger. Like you'd frequently end up like the people in the original Night of the Living Dead movie: trapped together in a semi-safe house waiting out the zombies.
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May 23, 2012 09:39
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I think this is the first ks I've seen with 0 physical rewards at any tier. I'm really impressed with their professionalism through and through; even though I love swag, they're obviously scrimping and saving every penny they have to make this game and aren't big stupid morons who want to spend 10k of their funding on like t-shirts or some stupid poo poo.
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May 23, 2012 09:41
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Quarex posted:Also, I confess I had no idea that Left 4 Dead was always pitched as a multiplayer game. I just saw that it said "single-player/multiplayer" in the description on Steam before it came out, and it was not until after I saw some people playing it that it dawned on me that it probably had a single-player game in the same sense that Half-Life had a multi-player game.
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May 23, 2012 09:45
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Quarex posted:True enough. Now, obviously, the more into an overgenre (das übergenre) someone is, the more likely they are to further differentiate; people who have never played any games of a particular "type" might not even think about how different two games of the same sort could be. Kind of like how nobody who had ever played any of these games would think Borderlands or Rage was similar to Fallout or Wasteland despite all being post-apocalyptic games. CRPG fanboys like me might sneer at anyone who fails to call Diablo an "action RPG" or improperly labels King's Bounty as a "strategy game" instead of a "strategy game with RPG elements" or something strange like that, but yeah, there are likely people out there who do not even necessarily see how Diablo is different from World of Warcraft.  ) while a lot of people would probably have a hard time getting more than just "a point 'n' click adventure" out of all their descriptions. So in the end maybe a lot of these Kickstarters aren't doing too hot because there's not enough people that just "get it" as they assume.Also I'm sure you could describe any game these days as "X with RPG elements" and be right on the money. 
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May 23, 2012 11:27
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CommissarMega posted:Based on this, I assume? Pic's been around for quite a while, and I've even played a one-shot AFMBE game based on it; might be cool. There you go, you weirdos, here's your game where you get to kill children.
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May 23, 2012 11:32
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The Zombie Playground's artist is truly awesome, but it would be nice if they actually had more, like, gameplay stuff.
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May 23, 2012 11:48
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Megazver posted:The Zombie Playground's artist is truly awesome, but it would be nice if they actually had more, like, gameplay stuff. This is what's troubling me. This is a really cool pitch, and I love everything Jason Chan's done, but seeing some in-game assets at the very least would make it a lot easier to back this (it doesn't help that their company, Massive Black, doesn't appear to have any programmers/programming experience, either).
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May 23, 2012 11:54
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Cloudberry Kingdom, the procedurally generated 2D platformer, is firing up its Beta on Steam for those who did that. They also hired on a real artist so the game might start not looking like a flash cartoon.
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May 23, 2012 19:19
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Good news for those who are not too fond of Steam: the new Carmageddon will be available as a DRM-free download soon after release. If anyone was on the fence due to a religious aversion to Steam, now is the time to open up your wallet.
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May 23, 2012 21:48
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Heran Bago posted:Cloudberry Kingdom, the procedurally generated 2D platformer, is firing up its Beta on Steam for those who did that. They also hired on a real artist so the game might start not looking like a flash cartoon. That game looks pretty cool, I hadn't heard of it before. But I'm not a bad enough dude to actually play it. You should see how few levels I was able to beat in super meat boy.
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May 23, 2012 21:50
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Cross of the Dutchman released a gameplay trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRmE5IIGFUA Davincie fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 23, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 21:55
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Arthur D Wolfe posted:Good news for those who are not too fond of Steam: the new Carmageddon will be available as a DRM-free download soon after release. If anyone was on the fence due to a religious aversion to Steam, now is the time to open up your wallet. And they have rights for the original games and hinted they are looking into GOG for some reason 
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If you put up the $15 for a copy of Carmageddon you get both the DRM-free version and the DRM-full version. That's two copies, one to play with and one to trade for Team Fortress hats or something. The DRM-free version will be missing Steam achievements and probably online multiplayer, but it will still have LAN/Hamachi multiplayer. And here's the 'other' section of the mail they're sending out: quote:· Carmageddon & GOG – “Stay tuned for further announcements...
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The MSJ posted:And we have another zombie game: Zombie Playground. See, when I say "doing something that distinguishes them from the crowd" this is exactly what I mean. They've come up with a cool art-style, they're running with a cool concept, and everything about it just says that there's a fun product in all this.
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The girl in the Carmageddon update video really reminds me of my friend as far as the voice is concerned. Scary stuff when she wants to 
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Davincie posted:Cross of the Dutchman released a gameplay trailer: To be honest, that looks like rear end, gameplay-wise.
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Megazver posted:To be honest, that looks like rear end, gameplay-wise.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:I'm not a fan of the art direction, either. I love the idea and I love it that they're trying to do something Dutch, because it's so rare to see, but I just don't like looking at it. I do like the art, but the gameplay seems to be "sloooowly amble towards the enemy and spam left-click."
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Feminist Frequency's Tropes Women vs. in Video Games has extended its goal a second time because people really want to see those videos. The new goal of $20,000 will buy her better sound and lighting equipment. Also stickers added as a $50 reward. I don't care how crappy they are I just want the videos. VVVV She already has Final Cut Pro, a lighting rig, a handycam, and a DIY soundproofing setup like you can see on the kickstarter's page. She's covered. Heran Bago fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 09:26
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I'm sure she's got some valid things to say but drat, she could hire a boom op and buy giant floodlights for that amount of money. Which is kinda overkill for a webcam video Pledge $10,000 and I will rent a live studio and you get to be in the audience. I can think of worse Kickstarters to contribute to sure Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 09:33 on May 24, 2012 |
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NINbuntu 64 posted:See, when I say "doing something that distinguishes them from the crowd" this is exactly what I mean. They've come up with a cool art-style, they're running with a cool concept, and everything about it just says that there's a fun product in all this. I'm getting a Heart of Darkness vibe from it, just good.
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May 24, 2012 12:33
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RPS finally covers Kinetic Void.
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I hope all these privateer inspired games do well, I've been missing on some space combat stuff for quite a while. (X3, with its learning curve like dwarf fortress, turned me off immediately) I half expect to start seeing kickstarters from EA or Activision for these more niche titles to see if there's enough interest to put a team toward making such and such game, and it'd take away a lot of the risk that's inherient in making a game that's not for the largest target audience possible.
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I'd give money to that Zombie Playground thing just based on the fact that Aesop Rock was putting some music in.
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The MSJ posted:RPS finally covers Kinetic Void. Yes they did! Its a pretty good article too. I appreciate their honesty.
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NINbuntu 64 posted:See, when I say "doing something that distinguishes them from the crowd" this is exactly what I mean. They've come up with a cool art-style, they're running with a cool concept, and everything about it just says that there's a fun product in all this. It does look cool, but I have two big concerns. One, they basically admit that their full vision for the game requires $2 million. It's good they're being honest about it, but they're not going to raise anywhere near that much. It seems to me the $100,000 only gets you a demo level, not a game. Second, no one on the team is a programmer. Obviously they'll hire some, but it makes me question their ability to produce a game on a strict budget. Thewittyname fucked around with this message at 16:09 on May 24, 2012 |
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Al! posted:There you go, you weirdos, here's your game where you get to kill children. I find the fact that it's children killing those children (and adults) vaguely disturbing. But those are my feelings towards the zombie genre, in games, in general.
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Heran Bago posted:Feminist Frequency's Tropes Women vs. in Video Games has extended its goal a second time because people really want to see those videos. The new goal of $20,000 will buy her better sound and lighting equipment. Also stickers added as a $50 reward. Such a stupid amount of money for a project that could be funded for 300 hundred dollars and all it really is is a series of videos pointing out incredibly obvious things to a crowd of people who already are aware of them. I didn't know you could make 20k preaching to the choir.
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Rinkles posted:I find the fact that it's children killing those children (and adults) vaguely disturbing. But those are my feelings towards the zombie genre, in games, in general.
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Quodio Stotes posted:Such a stupid amount of money for a project that could be funded for 300 hundred dollars and all it really is is a series of videos pointing out incredibly obvious things to a crowd of people who already are aware of them. I didn't know you could make 20k preaching to the choir. The choir is donating. The idea is that this is something that other people will get to see and it will do a more in-depth analysis than "this is a thing."
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That Kinetic Void referral thing sounds like a horrifically bad idea right out of the gate, and probably will break KS' TOS. I really really really hope you got the ok from KS before putting that up since it could easily be seen as directly contradicting your reward system. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 24, 2012 |
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Occupation posted:That Kinetic Void referral thing sounds like a horrifically bad idea right out of the gate, and probably will break KS' TOS. Other Kickstarters have done similar things, and there is nothing in the TOS against it. it has literally no downside for us either, so I don't see how its a bad idea. You seem to be really jaded against anything Kickstarter really, its kinda curious. LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 24, 2012 |
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