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MikeJF posted:Are maps the same per seed between 1.2 and 1.3 besides new structures and emerald ore, or is the terrain output different? They're largely the same but not quite identical. If you re-generate your world in 1.3 using the same seed you'll recognize most of the map, but you may notice some weird stuff with familiar landmarks like "oh hey that one floating island is connected to the ground by a stone column now". MikeJF posted:Also, minecraftwiki says emerald ore is like 25 times rarer than diamond - so the main source will be villagers? Will we miss out on anything huge if we stick with 1.2 terraingen? Nah.
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Looking at the list of what you can buy and sell at villages now, the current values are pretty messed up. It's basically "sell all your unwanted garbage in mass quantities for 1 emerald each, buy things you could have just made instead for large numbers of emeralds with no rhyme or reason behind inflation values." Although I appreciate being able to buy experience potions, I guess. I hope they adjust it a bit before 1.3 comes out.
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Jamesman posted:Looking at the list of what you can buy and sell at villages now, the current values are pretty messed up. It's basically "sell all your unwanted garbage in mass quantities for 1 emerald each, buy things you could have just made instead for large numbers of emeralds with no rhyme or reason behind inflation values." Although I appreciate being able to buy experience potions, I guess.
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Jamesman posted:Looking at the list of what you can buy and sell at villages now, the current values are pretty messed up. It's basically "sell all your unwanted garbage in mass quantities for 1 emerald each, buy things you could have just made instead for large numbers of emeralds with no rhyme or reason behind inflation values." Although I appreciate being able to buy experience potions, I guess.
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I feel so silly asking this here, but I'm having a java issue on my USB hard drive running Mint 12 x64. Discovered I didn't have it so I installed it. Updated libwgl for the sake of it. Fixed a fullscreen bug along the way. My issue is that I can run my .jars (minecraft.jar, magiclauncher.jar) by right clicking, choosing to run using one of the JREs (using opneJDK) BUT no matter what I do I can't get them to work via terminal, which shits me because it's the way I've always done it via a small shell script to add the extra java options I want and for simplicity. When i try, this poo poo happens: code:
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Vib Rib posted:Sell pieces of paper at 1 emerald apiece. Buy an entire diamond suit of armor for 40 emeralds. Anywhere from 880 to 1276 pieces of paper under the current trading tables.
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General_Failure posted:I feel so silly asking this here, but I'm having a java issue on my USB hard drive running Mint 12 x64. I might be a moron here, but are there supposed to be TWO slashes and not one at the start of the bold line? I don't deal with the terminal on Linux too much, so I might be wrong, but maybe you made a typo in your script?
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Jamesman posted:Anywhere from 880 to 1276 pieces of paper under the current trading tables. So 15 stacks of paper? That's maybe two crops from my not THAT big Reed farm. Not bad for diamond armour.
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Jamesman posted:Anywhere from 880 to 1276 pieces of paper under the current trading tables.
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D34THROW posted:I might be a moron here, but are there supposed to be TWO slashes and not one at the start of the bold line? I don't deal with the terminal on Linux too much, so I might be wrong, but maybe you made a typo in your script? That happens even when I run the jar directly, ie no script. edit: wtf just doing "./MagicLauncher.jar" has started working again. The mysteries of linux
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I'm thinking of putting off playing MC again until some more stuff drops. I'd like to create a nice big world I can work and shape without losing all my progress or access to future gameplay. Enchanting is probably the most intimidating-looking thing added to the game that I can see... wow.
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So I grabbed INVedit and gave myself a stack of villager eggs. Threw a few down and watched them. The little buggers are crafty in their idiocy. What they were doing was going to one of the gardens, hopping across to the town wall, walking along the top of the wall to the other side of the ravine and jumping off, getting trapped outside the wall at a point with no access to town and too stupid to go around. So they would have stayed there until they either wandered into the ravine or got killed by a hostile. I did a temporary fix by putting a door in, but then that's just another weak point for sieges. It'll take some excavation or something to fix the basic issue I have with the side of the hill though. Normally I try to keep my SSP games "clean" but villager eggs aren't a pickup and damned if I went to all the trouble of making them a nice village to have it stand uninhabited.
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Yeah, basically, they decide they want to go to a point selected randomly, then the smarter pathing engine takes over and they figure out any route to get there, then there's no way back in. So if there's one possible way to get themselves to a place they can't get back from, they'll eventually all end up there. I walled my village with airlock entrances. Only way.
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May 25, 2012 03:59
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, basically, they decide they want to go to a point selected randomly, then the smarter pathing engine takes over and they figure out any route to get there, then there's no way back in. So if there's one possible way to get themselves to a place they can't get back from, they'll eventually all end up there. Mm. I might have to do similar. All I want is one thing which I have wanted to be in the game forever. A photoresistor or a photocell. I'd have pressure plates and iron doors set up along the wall, and when the sun sets the state of the photocell changes, a timer counts down and the doors are disabled.
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General_Failure posted:Mm. I might have to do similar. All I want is one thing which I have wanted to be in the game forever. A photoresistor or a photocell. You can hack this with a contained villager and the fact they go into a house when dark. You set up a cell with an 'inside' and 'outside' and detect the side they're on. Google the implementation. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:48 on May 25, 2012 |
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General_Failure posted:Mm. I might have to do similar. All I want is one thing which I have wanted to be in the game forever. A photoresistor or a photocell. I'd have pressure plates and iron doors set up along the wall, and when the sun sets the state of the photocell changes, a timer counts down and the doors are disabled. Tutorial: Light Sensor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWndB7k4bQ
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At altitude 120 and up, you should get Light Ore which works as a photoresistor, Glue Gems which can be used to make sticky pistons move more than one block back and forth and Push Stones which basically push any block that touches them forwards in a straight line, allowing you to make jump pads/player launchers that honestly I haven't been bothered thinking about because this is like fanfiction only about a loving videogame's future in mods goddamn.
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Whalley posted:At altitude 120 and up, you should get Light Ore which works as a photoresistor, Glue Gems which can be used to make sticky pistons move more than one block back and forth and Push Stones which basically push any block that touches them forwards in a straight line, allowing you to make jump pads/player launchers that honestly I haven't been bothered thinking about because this is like fanfiction only about a loving videogame's future in mods goddamn. Glue gems? Slimeballs? I used sticky pistons to change the instrument on my glowomophone via a lever and simple redstone circuitry.
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Is it weird that with all of these changes, the first thing that comes to mind is "man, Ultra Hardcore could become really drat crazy with all this poo poo" First person to loot a pyramid without dying horribly gets a big advantage. Reed farming or whatever else in order to buy diamond poo poo. I really want to see what the first season of UHC will be like once 1.3 hits.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Is it weird that with all of these changes, the first thing that comes to mind is "man, Ultra Hardcore could become really drat crazy with all this poo poo" First person to loot a pyramid without dying horribly gets a big advantage. Reed farming or whatever else in order to buy diamond poo poo. I really want to see what the first season of UHC will be like once 1.3 hits. No because honestly that was my first thought too. I'd venture to say the second season would probably be more interesting once 1.3 comes out. Just because of the learning curve. And....aww so many testificates would die....
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Okan170 posted:I'm thinking of putting off playing MC again until some more stuff drops. I'd like to create a nice big world I can work and shape without losing all my progress or access to future gameplay.  This is why I've largely given up on playing Survival.Sam Hall posted:Never used optifine, but I saw a horrendous drop in performance when the "single player is now a server" update came out. Was hoping this newest snapshot would restore the game to some basic level of playability but nope. Yeah, I had a feeling this was going to happen. It doesn't strike me so much as an SMP/SSP merge as a "let's shoehorn server.bin into the client." Considering the message you get about it "automagically" loading server.bin with the official update, I'm not expecting 1.3 Actual to offer any greater refinement than having the game automatically download the .bin. Not yet the silver bullet, and if you couldn't run a client and a server on the same box before, I don't think you're going to fare much better after 1.3. Jamesman posted:Looking at the list of what you can buy and sell at villages now, the current values are pretty messed up. It's basically "sell all your unwanted garbage in mass quantities for 1 emerald each, buy things you could have just made instead for large numbers of emeralds with no rhyme or reason behind inflation values." Although I appreciate being able to buy experience potions, I guess. It's gotta be for testing purposes. Villagers only buy/sell one thing right now, and I know for a fact the GUI is set up to allow for multiple. ANIME IS BLOOD fucked around with this message at 06:56 on May 25, 2012 |
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The Mad Archivist posted:It's gotta be for testing purposes. Villagers only buy/sell one thing right now, and I know for a fact the GUI is set up to allow for multiple. Villagers can currently buy or sell multiple things. When interacting with a villager/testificate, click the little arrows at the top, that will scroll through all available transactions for that villager.
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iolo_the_bard posted:Villagers can currently buy or sell multiple things. When interacting with a villager/testificate, click the little arrows at the top, that will scroll through all available transactions for that villager. EDIT: And I made sure it's the latest snapshot. Emeralds also still mislabeled as Diamonds. ANIME IS BLOOD fucked around with this message at 06:55 on May 25, 2012 |
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The Mad Archivist posted:I've been spawning them in creative, they never have more than one item to buy or sell each. They start out only having one item. After an indeterminate amount of time, they get some purple particle effects for a second and then they have a second option.
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Oh hey guys, finnalized creative mode menu has been revealed. Yes that is a search bar, and you should be able to drop items straight into the "chest tab" which is your inventory. Combine that with the new vanilla SSP commands to switch game modes and creative mode has become a lot more user friendly. -- Also, I wonder if Nathan was just goofing around, or if he is working on tweaks to redstone seeing that he has everything labeled in whatever the gently caress that is in the background.
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Enzer posted:Oh hey guys, finnalized creative mode menu has been revealed.
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Enzer posted:Oh hey guys, finnalized creative mode menu has been revealed. What is that at the end of the hotbar? Spider balls?
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Test Pilot Monkey posted:What is that at the end of the hotbar? Spider balls? Fermented Spider Eyes. I didn't really get it immediately either.
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^^^ Yeah, the new creative menu is going to be nice, been working on this blueprint for massive flying airship/city and trying to find poo poo in the current menu takes up a lot of time. Trying to compile a list of changes coming to 1.3, point out anything I miss.  Misc Changes -Separated server logic and client. Singleplayer is now a local server. -Stackable items now stack outside inventory when thrown to the ground individually. -"Pick Block"added to Creative mode; when clicking on a mob, it gives the appropriate Spawn Egg. -Shift+clicking can now be used to wear armor. -Brewing Stands and Enchantment Tables allow use of shift clicking to put items in it. -Items can now be deleted from the hotbar by shift-clicking while on the Creative mode item selection screen. -In the menu, Chat Options were added. Added chat opacity, letting the chat be semi-transparent. Added chat disabling, removing the chat for SMP servers. Added chat colors option. Added "Only Commands" mode to chat. -/help added. -Server Commands now appear in italics in SMP -Tools now have infinite durability in Creative mode. -Minecart and boats are destroyed in one hit in Creative mode. -Flying through water in Creative mode is no longer slow -Saplings now have their proper names. -Game no longer pauses when entering a command, writing on a sign/book or pausing the game. -New addition and changes in debug screen: Coordinates are now rounded to 5 digits. "ws", "fs" and "g" (Walking speed, flying speed and ground. "g" is true if player is touching the ground.) -Support and auto-download for server texturepacks. -Hardcore Mode is now available in multiplayer. (Player banned on death, etc) -Improved Options menu. -Added Snow to Creative Inventory. World Changes -Decreased slime spawning rate in superflat worlds. -NPC Villages change style according to their biome. -Some people have reported that biomes look a lot nicer/smoother. -Added Cocoa Plants to jungles. -Stars are more realistic. They are now slightly smaller and slightly brighter. -Added Pyramids. World Options -Added option to enable single-player commands to create world screen. -Added option to world generation for a starter "Bonus Chest". When enabled (none hardcore mode only), starts the user off with a chest nearby containing tools, items, and blocks helpful to starting a survival game. Torches will try to spawn around chest. Bonus chests may contain: Wood Wooden Planks Sticks Stone and/or Wooden Pickaxe Stone and/or Wooden Axe Bread Red Apples -Added a Large Biomes World Type. Tweaks to existing items, features or mobs -Dispensers will deploy boats on water, and minecarts on rails. Powered minecarts and storage minecarts are also deployed similar to minecarts. -Right clicking a powered minecart in Creative Mode will act as if you would give it coal. -Leather is now required to craft Books. -Silk touch can now retrieve Ice blocks and Glass Panes. -Ice no longer turns into water in the Nether. -Livestock, such as chickens, can now be "walked through" instead of pushing the player around in crowded pens -Wooden tools work in furnaces as one full furnace use. -Changed Cocoa Beans textures. -Cookies now recover 2 points of hunger rather than 1. -Villagers spawned from spawning eggs will get a random profession. -Added specific names for the different sandstone and stone bricks. -Added names for Wooden Planks and logs (e.g, Oak Wood or Spruce Wood Planks). -Changed Gravel texture. -Added a second Golden Apple made with Blocks of Gold. After being consumed, the player receives 30 second Regeneration IV, plus Resistance and Fire Resistance for 5 minutes. -Added Villager Trading. Some villagers will buy items for emeralds, others will sell items for emeralds, each villager spawned is randomly assigned if they buy or sell and what they buy/sell. -Made Buckets stackable (16). -Dispensers will eject Water and Lava source blocks (from buckets) Will also take water and lava source blocks if there is an empty bucket inside -Boats will now pass through lilypads without breaking the boat; the lilypad drops as an item instead. -While sitting inside of a minecart pushing the forward key will make it move the direction you are facing. Only works on rails. New blocks and Features -Editable Books - Book and Quill, crafted using a Book, Feather, and Ink Sac. When a Book and Quill is made, it can be right-clicked to open a screen that allows you to type the book. Pressing "Done" will save whatever was typed and allow you to edit the book again later, yet will not "sign" it. When "signing" a book, it will allow you to choose a title up to 16 characters long and disable editing of the book. The Book and Quill then becomes a Written Book, with the icon changing along with the label. -Wooden slabs for each of the four shades of wood added These new slabs no longer act like stone An axe should be used to break them They are no longer immune to fire and lava -Fixed being unable to switch tools of the same kind in your inventory. -Fixed water destroying non-solid blocks when breaking them from above. -Added Ender Chest. All Ender Chests made share the same inventory. On SMP, the Ender Chest's contents will be the same for all players on a server. -Added Emerald. -Added Emerald Ore. -Added Sandstone Stairs Bug Fixes This whole section is a goddamn mess on the wiki and in the snapshots, so in short, yeah a ton of bug fixes. Wait till 1.3 release for full bug fix report. --- And finally the modding API has been pushed back till 1.4, the reason for this is that they want to get the merger between the SSP and SMP code base done first, since they really can't get the API finished when they are rewriting the base code. --- VVV Pretty much, though I would like to see NEI's recipe index/overlay feature as well as hooks in the API to allow mods to plug straight into that as well, but NEI is still an excellent mod to use.
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It's like they're taking a page from NEI, but perhaps with a more usable interface.
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Since this is the place to sperg, please allow me to blow off some steam: Mojang has started putting up blog updates called Weekly Chunks. Here's a video talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3MYHCnCPAM Now, first let me point out that "Director of fun" is a job title that reeks of whimsical fuckery and is about as fitting as calling a bottle of water a "Vessel of Life energy". I have no real experience with Lydia Winters, as I found the one video of Minecraft Chick I've seen annoying and uninteresting, but she has nothing to do with "fun", unless she actually has something to do with game design. Now, this idea of game updates could be good, and they might be better, but this is mostly used for saying "There is a new block in the game (but not which)" and "Notch has birthday  ". Why not actually use this video time to perhaps give a sneak peak of the game? Interview the dudes working on it (The Bukkit guys, Jens or whoever happened to broom the kitchen that day)?I get she's the PR-person of Mojang, but I'd appreciate something more substantial. Oh, and while I'm bitching and sperging, I hate the "slightly too zoomed in webcam" thing the video has going. For fucks sake, buy a real camera instead of crouching infront of your laptop. When you have the backing of the Mojang Millions, this "indie teehee" approach just makes my blood boil. And now, back to talking about the update! I like how that Creative menu looks like.
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Enzer posted:-Livestock, such as chickens, can now be "walked through" instead of pushing the player around in crowded pens
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Vib Rib posted:Small but hugely influential changes. Why is it something like this that impresses me most? Maybe it just feels like someone's actually playing the game and addressing actual issues and annoyances. What does that second one mean?
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Years ago I was toying with the idea of a P2p style structure for a game world. MC's basic structure falls into the type of game I had intended it for. Was just thinking such a thing would be really fun right now. To be able to invite people to my own sub-world etc and go portal hopping. I hope I still have the basic design docs for it somewhere.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:What does that second one mean? Sounds like you can switch between two tools that are the same, but have different damage levels now.
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Dr. Chainsaws PhD posted:Sounds like you can switch between two tools that are the same, but have different damage levels now. I still don't really follow. Switch how? You could always just have two different tools of the same type on your hot bar, or to switch those tools out between your hotbar to inventory. Is there some other way of switching them?
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If you have an iron pickaxe in the first slot of your hotbar and try to put an iron pickaxe from your inventory in its place, it won't swap them. Similarly, you can't swap their places in your inventory if you wanted to sort by durability.
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Bebopaloobop posted:If you have an iron pickaxe in the first slot of your hotbar and try to put an iron pickaxe from your inventory in its place, it won't swap them. Similarly, you can't swap their places in your inventory if you wanted to sort by durability. Oh wow, I don't know how I never noticed that.
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It is indeed one of those really small, but very significant annoyances. And the livestock blocking fix is also something that has me cheering with glee. Especially when you're trying to shear 50+ sheep in a pen.
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