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I started a DEX-based character and had the Baldur Side Sword drop from one of the Knights. Does the bleed effect of the Iaito make its more rigid moveset worth it?
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May 25, 2012 12:47
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Frankosity posted:I started a DEX-based character and had the Baldur Side Sword drop from one of the Knights. Does the bleed effect of the Iaito make its more rigid moveset worth it? Sometimes.
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May 25, 2012 15:24
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Bleed owns but if you don't like the feel of the moveset don't use the Iaito. 90% of this game's enjoyment comes from how good the melee combat feels. On my first playthrough I stupidly stuck with the black knight sword for a very long time, which has the world's worst R2 attack, and the second I switched to a new weapon I was like "ugu, this is instantly like twice as fun." edit: I know you're annoyed at the moment but my #1 biggest dark souls regret is spoiling that surprise for myself by reading too much about the game before it came out. I've never been surprised & eaten by a mimic  vv Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 15:33 on May 25, 2012 |
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May 25, 2012 15:29
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Thank you, Sen's Fortress, for introducing me to the game's first mimic. Oh, I can't back out of its mouth? Ok, I'll just wait until I'm dead. No problem. Thanks.
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May 25, 2012 15:30
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Frankosity posted:I started a DEX-based character and had the Baldur Side Sword drop from one of the Knights. Does the bleed effect of the Iaito make its more rigid moveset worth it? Go with the one you like using more. I don't like katanas, but really like Balder/Longsword movesets. I wouldn't say one is better though. edit- Polo-Rican said it better.
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May 25, 2012 15:32
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gwaaargh posted:Thank you, Sen's Fortress, for introducing me to the game's first mimic. You can fight them off by mashing but it does do a lot of damage. Just hit every treasure box you see with your weapon before you try to open it, free hit on mimics and tells you which ones aren't real.
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May 25, 2012 15:32
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FishBulb posted:You can fight them off by mashing but it does do a lot of damage. Just hit every treasure box you see with your weapon before you try to open it, free hit on mimics and tells you which ones aren't real.
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May 25, 2012 15:40
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FishBulb posted:You can fight them off by mashing but it does do a lot of damage. Just hit every treasure box you see with your weapon before you try to open it, free hit on mimics and tells you which ones aren't real. If you don't like bashing your weapon against every box you see, try pausing to stare closely at chests that seem suspicious or out of place. Mimics will move very slightly from time to time; sometimes they will open their lids and expand a little in a subtle "breathing" motion It was pure poo poo-luck that I noticed that on my very first Mimic, and I've kept a keen eye for it ever since. I've never been killed by one of those things, although I've come close once or twice, and I've never been taken off-guard by them at all.
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May 25, 2012 16:01
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There's an even easier way to tell which chests are mimics... spoilered in case anyone wants to retain the surprise: Real chests have a chain on the side that curls inwards. Mimics always have a chain that points outwards. http://i.imgur.com/cqgl1.jpg edit: Ha ha vvv
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May 25, 2012 16:11
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Re: Mimics I also learned via a youtube video that you can tell tham apart by the way the chain is laying on the ground. If the loose end is pointing towards you, it's a Mimic. If it is pointing away from you, it is safe. Polo-rican   I finally thought I had something to contribute tot this thread.
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May 25, 2012 16:12
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Frankosity posted:I started a DEX-based character and had the Baldur Side Sword drop from one of the Knights. Does the bleed effect of the Iaito make its more rigid moveset worth it? I can honestly say I never procced Bleed on anything before killing it normally, not even bosses. Then again, my only dex run was also my magic run so I wasn't swinging wildly at them... Also, more should use the cleaver. Pretty strong, pretty fast and has the best 1H strong attack in the game. Seriously.
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May 25, 2012 19:32
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I think Bleed is mainly for PvP and the various reskinned Demon bosses, i.e. Stray and Firesage. Almost everything else will either die before it triggers like you said, or has armor and you'll just never hit the mark.
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May 25, 2012 20:25
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Bleed works on like, a shitton of bosses though? It even works on Ornstein and Smough 
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May 25, 2012 20:52
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Alabaster White posted:Bleed works on like, a shitton of bosses though? It even works on Ornstein and Smough It even works on the giant knights in AL, but it takes at least three or more hits to trigger.
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May 25, 2012 21:01
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Alabaster White posted:Bleed works on like, a shitton of bosses though? It even works on Ornstein and Smough  Also, I play low Vit characters and can't afford to be hit and so don't hit fast and quick enough to procc it most of the time. Hell, that Dex/Int character had 8 Vit and 8 End, I wasn't taking any hits like that or risks. EC posted:It even works on the giant knights in AL, but it takes at least three or more hits to trigger. What kinda punk rear end Scythe you using if they aren't dead in 3 hits?
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May 25, 2012 21:01
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Deceitful Penguin posted:You know what also works on bosses? Soulspear. *cough* Crystal Soul Spear *cough* quote:What kinda punk rear end Scythe you using if they aren't dead in 3 hits? Join me in NGx5, and I'll show you.  For real though, dudes have a LOT of HP. I usually kill 'em with magic unless I'm having to save it for some reason.
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May 25, 2012 21:05
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Bleed is one of those things that, I think, becomes more valuable the deeper into the pluses you go... because HP may increase, resistances may increase, but %HP is %HP.
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May 25, 2012 21:08
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FYI Demon's Souls servers will remain up for now.
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May 25, 2012 21:21
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Thank god. I've been spending the last month making several builds to enjoy before they went down. Will be nice to get more time out of them.
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May 25, 2012 21:48
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In the past couple of weeks the burg has gone from a solid pvp spot to the piece of poo poo that the Kiln is, 3 v 1 ganks and Giant MoM/Childs minmaxers. It's not AS bad, but it's definitely worse than a month ago and progressively getting moreso. vv: The problem with that is those are more (in my experience) spots where you can get good invasions, as opposed to good duels which is what the Burg and (previously) Kiln are for. Read fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 25, 2012 |
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May 25, 2012 21:58
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Read posted:In the past couple of weeks the burg has gone from a solid pvp spot to the piece of poo poo that the Kiln is, 3 v 1 ganks and Giant MoM/Childs minmaxers. That certainly didn't take long. You should invade (or host) at the balcony bonfire in the Archives, I had some good matches there. The bonfire in Demons Ruins is good as well.
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May 25, 2012 22:12
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Read posted:In the past couple of weeks the burg has gone from a solid pvp spot to the piece of poo poo that the Kiln is, 3 v 1 ganks and Giant MoM/Childs minmaxers. It's not AS bad, but it's definitely worse than a month ago and progressively getting moreso. You can just host if you want to duel people, it doesn't take that long to find a match in the Kiln.
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May 25, 2012 23:26
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EC posted:*cough* Crystal Soul Spear *cough* EC posted:Join me in NGx5, and I'll show you. And Pie beats Scythe.
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May 25, 2012 23:49
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Anyone have one of those fully-stocked supermules? I've been working on building my own and holy craps I just can't take it anymore. PSN is misterbing13, please end my pain.
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May 26, 2012 00:44
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So I made it to the merchant in Sen's fortress and suddenly felt a strong urge to get the uchi...er...that Uma Thurman weapon from Kill Bill. Should I just go kill that first merchant? I know you can get it if you join the forrest covenant but I really, really hate that place and don't really wanna go there right now. At the moment I'm using the lightning spear from the mimic but I figured that an upgraded ...asian weapon...might come in handy later on?
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May 26, 2012 00:45
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Uchigatana's pretty good in PvP, as well, HOWEVER, you're far enough in the game that you can get a free copy (with a much better 2h R2, although I do like the Uchi's fairly quick stab 1h R2). In Blighttown, coming from the Depths, you might spot an item on a tower. You've gotta make a flying leap there, and you'll get the Iaito. It doesn't look as nicely textured as the Uchigatana, but it's nearly identical except for it's R2 move and a couple points less in raw damage. Otherwise, kill the Male Merchant if that's too hard for you. Personally I still don't even know where the hell Shiva shows up in Blighttown, I've never seen him except outside of the cat's hut. Which sucks because I'd like a Washing Pole for my collection.
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May 26, 2012 00:52
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Mr. Bing posted:Anyone have one of those fully-stocked supermules? I've been working on building my own and holy craps I just can't take it anymore. PSN is misterbing13, please end my pain. I'd be interested in one too if anybody feels like helping me out. I'm on 360, GT: andrew smash .
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May 26, 2012 01:02
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Shiva hangs out on swamp level, right underneath the ferris wheel that takes you up to the Valley of Drakes shortcut.
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May 26, 2012 01:06
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Mr. Bing posted:Shiva hangs out on swamp level, right underneath the ferris wheel that takes you up to the Valley of Drakes shortcut. Thanks for that, I'll grab the WP when I head into Blighttown on my current NG+.
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May 26, 2012 01:07
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WrightOfWay posted:You can just host if you want to duel people, it doesn't take that long to find a match in the Kiln. I often do host, the problem is that the Kiln especially is full of people with super min-maxy builds that aren't terribly fun or interesting to fight. After you've fought 500 Mask of the Mother / Giants Chest / Giants Gloves / Giants Legs, Ring of Favor and Protection, Dark Wood Grain Ring and Black Knight Greataxe (or Dragonslayer Spear, or Washing Pole +DMB/CMW) players, you're not really interested in fighting another. The Burg was, for a while, somewhere you could fight people out for just a straight up good fight instead of people who were obsessed with getting the win.
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May 26, 2012 01:29
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What do PvPers here think about the Demon Great Machete? I love the high base damage and the A strength scaling since it means I kill almost everyone in 2-3 hits (usually one if I land a jumping attack, BS, riposte, or the near-useless special move). The sheer power of the thing is amazing. But I also feel like I'm having issues getting outranged by a surprisingly large number of weapons. It's not helped by the great machete being incredibly slow and the fact that my build only has 13 poise unless I sacrifice ninja flips for a wolf ring. I can still win with it, of course, by being tricky about rolling attacks (at which point almost everyone tries to run away and flask, which usually lets me end the fight with a jump attack) and fishing for backstabs, but I feel incredibly limited against someone aggressively attacking with a longer range weapon. Is there anything like the DGM in terms of damage and scaling that has a better reach or moveset? I generally hate the default axe/hammer/greataxe, though I haven't tried greatclubs, and if I'd be willing to try anything if it offered something good enough.
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May 26, 2012 01:38
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I don't get why people min/max so much in this game, it's so much more fun to just do whatever you want. Brigand Hood, Armor of the Glorious, Giant Gauntlets or Black Iron Gauntlets for a bit of poise, and Waistcoat of the Channelers. This is visually my favorite setup and it's what I use when I PvP. Swap the Glorious Armor for Paladin Armor when I'm not PvPing/think the little tiny bit of extra protection will help me and that's my favorite non-PvP setup as well. The only indulgences I really take are the Lightning Uchigatana and the Dark Wood Grain Ring. The ring only really so I don't have to deal with mid-speed or fatty rolling. Even the uchi I'm trying to distance myself from, since I like the movesets and looks of curved swords much more - probably gonna do a Dex. build in my next NG run.
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May 26, 2012 01:43
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MoonwalkInvincible posted:What do PvPers here think about the Demon Great Machete? Since the Demon Great Machete is an Ultra Greatsword it shares it's moveset (with the exception of it's R2s) with the Zweihander, Greatsword, Black Knight Greatsword and Dragon Greatsword. Of these, only the BK Greatsword has decent scaling (B/E/-/-) but the Zweihander makes up for it's poor scaling with relatively high base damage for it's low requirements (24 STR vs the 40 for the Demon Great Machete) and comparatively low weight (10 vs 18).
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May 26, 2012 01:55
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Shima Honnou posted:I don't get why people min/max so much in this game, it's so much more fun to just do whatever you want. I know what you mean by do what you want. I'm wearing Ornstein's Armor and the Gold Rimmed Black Hood because good god drat does that look awesome. Once I've got the END for it I'll toss on Havel's arms and legs for the full awesome looking beefy experience, because the Shadow set looks kinda goofy. Also I love getting achievements for making weapons I need. Just made a +10 Divine Manserpent Greatsword because the Astora's sword +5 is a joke in NG+ against Nito, and ding! Fifteen points. Amazing that 150+ hours into this thing I'm still getting stuff. Anyone tried making ridiculous characters? I made a beefy purple knight with no shirt who looks coal black when he's Hollow. It's kind of neat. I also have a retarded smurf barbarian and an Oompa Loompa mage, because holy crap some of those skin tones you can pull off.
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May 26, 2012 02:51
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I just dark handed someone and stole 10 humanity 
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May 26, 2012 05:08
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Contra Duck posted:I just dark handed someone and stole 10 humanity Occasionally someone will let me sap their humanity  I usually give them some Titanite as a reward. e: apparently I'm a scrub for backstabbing someone instead of doing the "honorable" thing and lobbing Chaos pyromancies everywhere
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May 26, 2012 05:34
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I remember someone else in the thread mentioning it, so I finally went with the BB glitch and rolled a new character, going for an assasin/ninja dex build. I'd only ever played around with my STR/FTH paladin before, so this is a really refreshing change of pace. Lvl 35, Ninja set, with Uchi as my main and left hand holding some other curved sword, just for the sick-as-gently caress looking parry animation. Then get just enoug attunement to equip Toxic Mist, Poison Mist, and Chameleon. Cast chameleon, position in a narrow space, and bam, before anyone knows what the gently caress is happening, TOXIC. Now I just need to renew my live access again. Goddamnit Korea, why you gotta make it so complicated to get live?
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May 26, 2012 08:06
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Dewgy posted:
I have a fatty fat fat Sunbro who's nose is literally concave, bright fuckin purple, and a mouth jutting from his face. The mouth is also wider than his entire head. Sunbro, because the sun is the only bro he'll ever have.
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May 26, 2012 08:19
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Dewgy posted:Anyone tried making ridiculous characters? I made a beefy purple knight with no shirt who looks coal black when he's Hollow. It's kind of neat. I also have a retarded smurf barbarian and an Oompa Loompa mage, because holy crap some of those skin tones you can pull off. I made a Very Large-built dude solely to wear Smough's set in all its hilariously obese glory. He has a grin stretching across all of his face, and with the knight helmet you can't see his eyes so all you get is the mouth and it's a bit reminiscent of the TF2 soldier. Also with the knight helmet and Smough everything else, he is almost perfectly round. It's amazing and I think it looks very reassuring to people who summon me. They see this enormous dude with the smuggest face and and it just feels like he knows what he's doing.
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Dewgy posted:Anyone tried making ridiculous characters? I made a beefy purple knight with no shirt who looks coal black when he's Hollow. It's kind of neat. I also have a retarded smurf barbarian and an Oompa Loompa mage, because holy crap some of those skin tones you can pull off. For shits I kinda want to make a guy wearing Smough's set who dual wields bonewheel shields. One fire, one lightning. Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 26, 2012 |
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