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Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, how inconsiderate of him to die in such an inconvenient way for you.

Regarding gathering evidence, are you saying that all the actually legit evidence there is isn't enough on its own, you have to use forgeries as well? This isn't a very nice fantasy RPG world is it...

I think this is because... Fournival is Guilty!

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VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Shardok posted:

Also, VDay, I doubt you'll be overly gimped by switching to Sorcerer or Mage, especially not Sorcerer given that they get such a high magic gain up to level 100. And even regardless, Assassin still has okay magic attack gain (2 as opposed to 5 for Sorc and 4 for Mage. But if you're really worried, you might want to just switch to Magic Knight for ~10 levels or so first, but that would really only make it take longer to really test out Sorcerer. Probably best to just become Sorcerer and mostly let your pawns do it, although what with the enemies still being normal weaklings, that isn't too necessary no doubt.

The thing is, if the game's still the same then I'm going to be getting jack poo poo for experience since I'd be running around level 57 to start. That means that even though I'd be fine stat wise to switch to sorcerer, I wouldn't actually be gaining that many levels which means that by the time I got to the very end of the game to do the postgame stuff again, my magic would be pretty terrible still.

Plus I just kind of want to play as a sorcerer without being able to rely on the fact that I'm almost level 60 to survive. Part of the fun of this game was the satisfaction of being able to completely destroy enemies that gave you trouble earlier on.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I really hope I didn't break that quest killing Jasper. Cheeky fucker wanted way too much

Role Play McMurphy
Jul 15, 2010
You get more money for completing the quest than you spend. And I'm sitting on like 600K a few quests later, it's really not that much.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I was hoping killing him would count as him having been evicted and I could move on

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Does anyone know how you get through the gate at the bluemoon tower, first floor? It's on the other side of the boss area.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Don't you just smash the board barring it shut?

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

So if I make a forgery of an item how do I tell which one is the forgery? I know some quests have consequences for giving item forgeries but I can't tell how to make sure I keep the forgery and give the real one for the quest.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!
Protip: Don't toss orphans downhill in the nice part of town.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
So... Vivi decided to use Whirlwind (instead of being a moron and casting that aoe fire attack...) on the drake. It takes out a quarter of a life bar per hit. That's a lot of health gone Very fast.

Surprisingly it worked better than ice just because it lasted so much longer and was easier for it to hit its weak spot.

Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

randombattle posted:

So if I make a forgery of an item how do I tell which one is the forgery? I know some quests have consequences for giving item forgeries but I can't tell how to make sure I keep the forgery and give the real one for the quest.

Forgeries say so in their description, but only if you are the one who commissioned them (so forgeries received as pawn gifts look genuine to you). They also won't stack, so if you happen to have two genuine items and a forgery, it's easy to tell them apart.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Shardok posted:

So... Vivi decided to use Whirlwind (instead of being a moron and casting that aoe fire attack...) on the drake. It takes out a quarter of a life bar per hit. That's a lot of health gone Very fast.

Surprisingly it worked better than ice just because it lasted so much longer and was easier for it to hit its weak spot.

Yeah the right sorcerer spell at the right time in the right spot can do ridiculous damage. My favorite is when he casts the lightning one that charges the entire party. If he keeps it up for a few seconds then my warrior pawn and I can run up and all the sparks just melt anything less than a drake. I basically one-shotted an ogre once because he started the fight off with that spell.

VDay fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 26, 2012

Tactical Grace
May 1, 2008

VDay posted:

Haha, that ending sure is something. Note though: If you're like me and play the game with music turned off so you can play your own music while you run around, turn it back on before the final fights otherwise you get to watch the ending cinematics with 0 sound.

It seems like people are finishing this game awfully quickly.

After an extended period of agonising I decided to create Tarhunt the Hittite magick archer and his pawn Sigurd the massive Norse swordsman. Both of them are historical dragon slayers, brought together from different planes to slay ONE MORE WYRM. PSN: "Tactical__Grace".

ArcticZombie
Sep 15, 2010
Man, those escort quests to Shadowfort were no joke. It's like a boss rush mode. I opted to not follow the path and just cut as straight a line as possible and ran into a Chimera, a Cyclops and then a Drake all one after the other. Mercedes died to the Cyclops somehow (I don't know what really happened to her it was pitch black and she vanished and the quest was failed), which is a shame because her reward seemed like a shield and being a tanky fighter dude I really wanted it. I managed to get the guy there by running past the Drake because that thing had a LOT of fuckin' health and I had zero consumables left. The 2 handed sword is useless to me and my pawn. It's worth like 115k though so I really regret failing getting Mercedes there as the shield probably owned.

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

I missed a lot of quests on accident at the beginning so by the time I realized it I just said "gently caress it" and skipped through a good chunk of the side stuff to beat it quicker and move on to NG+ for a proper 100% run. It still took me a decent amount of time to beat, and I ended the game at like lvl 53 or so. The only problem is that I did this first playthrough as sorcerer and really want to give assassin/strider/fighter a try but feel like I've gimped myself quite a bit by reaching this point without raising HP or strength or anything. Is there anyone going through NG+ that can comment on what level progression is like? If it's not too bad then maybe I can salvage things


That post-game and ending though, holy poo poo :stare:

Tufty
May 21, 2006

The Traffic Safety Squirrel

Tactical Grace posted:

It seems like people are finishing this game awfully quickly.

After an extended period of agonising I decided to create Tarhunt the Hittite magick archer and his pawn Sigurd the massive Norse swordsman. Both of them are historical dragon slayers, brought together from different planes to slay ONE MORE WYRM. PSN: "Tactical__Grace".

They're probably playing it in marathon sessions and moving forward at a decent pace. All the people who are talking about the ending and post-game are the people who love DD. I myself love the game and have been playing it in huge amounts but I'm taking it slow and so even though I've in maybe 40 hours or more I've only just seen the duke and done one quest for his advisor.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Tactical Grace posted:

It seems like people are finishing this game awfully quickly.

After an extended period of agonising I decided to create Tarhunt the Hittite magick archer and his pawn Sigurd the massive Norse swordsman. Both of them are historical dragon slayers, brought together from different planes to slay ONE MORE WYRM. PSN: "Tactical__Grace".

I beat the game in 39 hours and 40 minutes. In three days. I didn't do poo poo all week. Don't bother with side quests (they're by and large boring and pointless) and you'll go through pretty quickly.

If you're feeling the need to breeze through the game you can always just summon my pawn, Rolf and let him do everything for you. At level 53 it'll be a long time before things that aren't the deep end of the pool and long falls will even be able to scratch him. If you like a challenge then you might want to pass on him.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
I don't know how Gimpy Joe has managed to accrue an appearance rating of 4 stars, but uh. Thanks, you guys. :stare:

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



Scott Bakula posted:

I was hoping killing him would count as him having been evicted and I could move on

Unless its story related there is no permanent death, so wait a week and he'll respawn.

Also with regards to the trial and tribulations quest, i have went through it twice and i can tell you without a doubt that you need at least one forgery on top of the witnesses to prove him innocent, so don't waste your cash on a second forged document.

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010
Just got the game.

I love that there is an actual challenge to the game.

What I'm not a fan of is running everwhere? Is there no fast travel in this game? How soon can I get Ferry Stones?

Also, why can I kill that thing in the cave under the Pawn Guild? It doesn't seem to take any damage?

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Werewolf? I've never seen a werewolf in the game.

The pawn told you to go into the secret underground place under their guild, right? You should go there.

edit: vvvv don't fight the ogre silly, they are big and dangerous

I started again as a warrior, played more thoroughly through the quests and came back and squashed this big idiot like a bug :D

Much better this time around.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

jerichojx posted:

Just got the game.

I love that there is an actual challenge to the game.

What I'm not a fan of is running everwhere? Is there no fast travel in this game? How soon can I get Ferry Stones?

Also, why can I kill that thing in the cave under the Pawn Guild? It doesn't seem to take any damage?

That's an ogre. They're sturdy sons of bitches. He'll usually go stumbling to his death if you just keep railing on him from a distance, but your best bet is to run away. You won't have the strength to kill them conventionally for quite a while.

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010
If I can't beat that thing, why did they include it in my first three hours?

Tactical Grace
May 1, 2008
Thanks for the reassurance. Its a great game.

Yeah I picked up Rolf because he looked totally badass, that skull helmet! I was not wrong infact he may be a little overqualified for my humble band of merry warriors.

Manatee Cannon posted:

If you're feeling the need to breeze through the game you can always just summon my pawn, Rolf and let him do everything for you. At level 53 it'll be a long time before things that aren't the deep end of the pool and long falls will even be able to scratch him. If you like a challenge then you might want to pass on him.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

jerichojx posted:

If I can't beat that thing, why did they include it in my first three hours?

:darksouls:

No, seriously though. The key to that quest is to run screaming down the stairwell, then run screaming back up it.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Tactical Grace posted:

It seems like people are finishing this game awfully quickly.

I think people are because nobody can put it down.

I don't know how to check time played in the game but I downed the dragon last night and I have put every free moment I have had into the game since it came out.



As an aside, when you down the dragon, and the credits start coming in, then theres still more game to go is pretty :aaaaa:

*ed*

Hey so about the final dragon fight what happens if you take the bitch option and take his deal?

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Hobo Siege posted:

:darksouls:

No, seriously though. The key to that quest is to run screaming down the stairwell, then run screaming back up it.

Dark Souls is perfectly beatable at any level, it all comes down pretty much to skill in that game :colbert:

As far as the ogre, I'm kinda disappointed. I went and found other quests, I ran around the world killing all sorts of poo poo, making my way to level 25 before going back to Gran Soren.

The ogre then proceeds to kill itself jumping off the cliff with my main pawn when I get it, fairly easily, to half health. Instead of running out, I justified my power-leveling by killing every tentacle that spawned on the way back up.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



It's in your status page. Press start. For other meaningless numbers, I think you can check your pawn's ranking by using the rift stone to search for pawns. Also, in the chamber the Ur Dragon is in there's a plaque ranking the people who have defeated the dragon. There was nobody on it as of when I played earlier today, but the dragon was almost dead. Anyone post dragon should take a swing at it! You don't need to kill it, you just need to survive until it leaves. So long as you hurt it you get something.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.

Hobo Siege posted:

That's an ogre. They're sturdy sons of bitches. He'll usually go stumbling to his death if you just keep railing on him from a distance, but your best bet is to run away. You won't have the strength to kill them conventionally for quite a while.

Not sure if I just got lucky, but he wasn't that tough. Had me (level 14 2h warrior), main pawn (ranger), healer mage and tank fighter. Constant jump+heavy spam on a leg to knock him over, then repeated heavies to his head. Killed him in a couple of minutes, he takes massive damage to the head when he's down.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Man I love this post game content that's really just a continuation of the story. What's great about this game is it's hard. Even though i'm not dying, I have the illusion of that I'm struggling to win these fights. I imagine at the end of fights with dragons my dude would be seriously coughing up a lung trying to catch a breath.


I have the worst luck with getting dragon forged stuff. I've killed like eight dragons, and nothings been dragon forged.

AttackBacon
Nov 19, 2010
DEEP FRIED DIARRHEA
What an awesome game. Just did my first Drake fight at level 30, seriously epic. When he grabbed one of my pawns and went YOUR WILL IS MINE I was like :aaaaa:. Getting in there and thrusting my sword into his beating heart was pretty much the best feeling I've had in a game since Shadow of the Colossus or Monster Hunter. I've been playing as a Warrior and while it is pretty lame you only get 3 skills, the class seems really strong. It took me a while to get used to the charge-up skills, but I can stunlock an Ogre with my Indomitable Lash skill, and I used Arc of Deliverance (It has a 15 second charge time!) on a knocked down Chimera and nearly one shot it, so I'm in love. My Gamertag is AttacusBaconius, my pawn is a Ranger with pretty good gear, lots of monster and quest knowledge, and lots of crowd control abilities! Use her! I need delicious Rift Crystals!

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009

Murodese posted:

Not sure if I just got lucky, but he wasn't that tough. Had me (level 14 2h warrior), main pawn (ranger), healer mage and tank fighter. Constant jump+heavy spam on a leg to knock him over, then repeated heavies to his head. Killed him in a couple of minutes, he takes massive damage to the head when he's down.

I got close my first time. Helped that I had an all-female party (it's bloody hard to find male pawns for some reason!) so the ogre pretty much ignored me and I could keep bringing my pawns back to life. Then with a sliver of health left it caught me with a wild swing and I went off the edge and pancaked :argh:

Also, regarding that weird bug where your pawn's gift show up but the reviews don't, does not give you rift crystals until a review actually shows up? Because I finally got one and it came with a whopping 4000 crystals!

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Murodese posted:

Not sure if I just got lucky, but he wasn't that tough. Had me (level 14 2h warrior), main pawn (ranger), healer mage and tank fighter. Constant jump+heavy spam on a leg to knock him over, then repeated heavies to his head. Killed him in a couple of minutes, he takes massive damage to the head when he's down.

Sounds like you pretty much had the perfect setup for that fight, honestly. Me, I ran in there with daggers and my bow and my tank pawn managed to get swiped off the edge straight away. Thankfully, the ogre followed right behind him after Gimpy set his entire torso on fire. Tried to put himself out by rolling and went clear over the edge.

Refind Chaos
Sep 16, 2007

King of 'tisms mountain

Myriad posted:

Everyone rates my big fat guy fighter a 1 for appearance :qq:
Clearly I need to get some lingerie for him

Put a bag over his head, literally. I did this and started getting 4 star appearance ratings for my giant Amazonian with a man's voice.

Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

I wonder how other people handle pawns. I've been keeping them until they are far enough below me that it's a burden, then checking if they are leveled up, release them and rehire them if they're closer to my level again.

Do other people just go on a couple quests and dump them for fresh meat or something? Most of my returns have been for small amounts if crystals and I don't see any repeat rents, but consistently over 3 stars in battle and usefulness.

Funkmaster General fucked around with this message at 14:21 on May 26, 2012

grrarg
Feb 14, 2011

Don't lose your head over it.

Tufty posted:

They're probably playing it in marathon sessions and moving forward at a decent pace. All the people who are talking about the ending and post-game are the people who love DD. I myself love the game and have been playing it in huge amounts but I'm taking it slow and so even though I've in maybe 40 hours or more I've only just seen the duke and done one quest for his advisor.
Same. I think I was level 40 when I finally met the duke, and all the notice boards were empty thanks to my horrible RPG OCD. :suicide:

I'm really looking forward to NG+ though. Despite or maybe even because of my RPG OCD, there are several things I've missed.

Grimoire quest
It was night when I arrived at Aernst so I couldn't see far enough to tell the transition between hostile and non-aggressive bandits. I just kept killing my way inside until a bandit with a red quest marker was attacking in the middle. I missed whatever quests he had.

Idols
I missed out twice here. After talking to the duke, I went straight out to save Selene before the idol quests were available. When I got back and saw the quests, I just turned in the bronze idols since I already had them. After that I saw a notice board quest for a silver one. I missed the golden one too since I got a golden egg from doing Symone's escort before talking to the duke.

Night in this game is so amazing. I just arrived at Soulflayer Canyon as the sun set. I figured I'd be fine since it is a 'dungeon.' :tviv: Navigating those narrow pathways at night with harpies and phantasms attacking was intense.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Funkmaster General posted:

I wonder how other people handle pawns. I've been keeping them until they are far enough below me that it's a burden, then checking if they are leveled up, release them and rehire them if they're closer to my level again.

Do other people just go on a couple quests and dump them for fresh meat or something? Most of my returns have been for small amounts if crystals and I don't see any repeat rents, but consistently over 3 stars in battle and usefulness.

That's pretty much what I do, yeah.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

grrarg posted:


Grimoire quest
It was night when I arrived at Aernst so I couldn't see far enough to tell the transition between hostile and non-aggressive bandits. I just kept killing my way inside until a bandit with a red quest marker was attacking in the middle. I missed whatever quests he had.


He and his female counterpart in the northwest both respawn. I know this because I killed them both first, and then did their quests later.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Funkmaster General posted:

I wonder how other people handle pawns. I've been keeping them until they are far enough below me that it's a burden, then checking if they are leveled up, release them and rehire them if they're closer to my level again.

Do other people just go on a couple quests and dump them for fresh meat or something? Most of my returns have been for small amounts if crystals and I don't see any repeat rents, but consistently over 3 stars in battle and usefulness.

I tend to hire out pawns 10 or so levels higher than me, and replace them once I meet their level or they die.

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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Count Uvula posted:

Don't you just smash the board barring it shut?

Wait, we're talking about the same gate right?

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