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Funkmaster General posted:I wonder how other people handle pawns. I've been keeping them until they are far enough below me that it's a burden, then checking if they are leveled up, release them and rehire them if they're closer to my level again. I want to do the same, but whenever I release them they don't match my level any more  Plus my class preferences often change, usually in the direction of "Need more explosions" 
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Evil Canadian posted:Hey so about the final dragon fight what happens if you take the bitch option and take his deal? curious about that too, also has anyone managed to get into the blighted manse yet?
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May 26, 2012 15:04
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Fizzil posted:curious about that too, also has anyone managed to get into the blighted manse yet? Yes I have, you have to save the princess. You get a quest outside the castle. I did this pre-Dragon fight.
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Well my Pawn got her first rating today, 4 stars for looks, 5 for helpfulness and 5 for combat with a message saying, "Oft helped in combat" I should hope so to considering my Pawn is the party tank and does rather well at holding aggro. I just tend to hire a Mage for heals and spells and a 2nd Warrior to assist my tank, me as an Asassin just tends to charge around hitting stuff from behind or shooting arrows everywhere. Also, Ogres are the best enemies, you can't hate their excited noises when they spot a woman.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Yes I have, you have to save the princess. You get a quest outside the castle. I did this pre-Dragon fight. oh good lord i ignored it, in NG+ i tried to see the other options, but it seems like if i don't listen to the game i get to miss out on a ton of content.
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So, I finally got to make my own pawn. If anyone wants help from a level 6 mage pawn look up xbox profile: Friegolit and pawn name Jairah.
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May 26, 2012 15:22
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The warrior vocation on my main pawn has given me some hokey results. It's like the AI doesn't know how to handle a character wearing badass armor and a huge friggan sword. In battles I've seen her just jump up and down constantly when fighting a bandit, other times they run behind my main character and never seem to engage the enemy (which can be frustrating when bandit archers loving melt mages and you need the warrior in front to draw their fire). Sometimes, warcry works for half a second before the archers resume fire on everyone else except the warrior. Other times they can be pretty decent. The AI seems to handle the Fighter vocation far better. Anyone else have similar experiences? For a Sorcerer character, which skills you putting on your warrior pawn? I think of it as a case of trying to stay in the back but the AI thinks you're running away from the battle and just runs around in circles not doing anything. I'm starting to regret picking mage. Yeah, coming up against big characters and using these crazy powerful abilities is great, but getting nearly destroyed by archers 20 levels below you because they can rapid fire arrows in your face and use a million and one abilities while you're still casting your stupid loving fireball is an exercise in frustration. The passive abilities to reduce knockback and whatnot while casting doesn't work when you get hit by 4 normal arrows and that rain of arrows or hard-hitting arrow ability in the time it takes to cast a fireball.
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Judge Tesla posted:Well my Pawn got her first rating today, 4 stars for looks, 5 for helpfulness and 5 for combat with a message saying, "Oft helped in combat" Yeah, I'm building my pawn to be a tank. Right now she's a warrior so she can get abilities like bastion and clout before going back to her primary job. Either way the people renting her seem to be leaving her to die when she does her job, because she's not getting any ratings. I 
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Here's an IRC channel: #dogmagoons @ irc.synirc.net (Mibbit link)
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Lotish posted:Yeah, I'm building my pawn to be a tank. Right now she's a warrior so she can get abilities like bastion and clout before going back to her primary job. Either way the people renting her seem to be leaving her to die when she does her job, because she's not getting any ratings. I Your warrior isn't a walking piece of tits'n'rear end so I gave you 2 stars in everything. Get some taste, nerd. 
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Jimbot posted:The warrior vocation on my main pawn has given me some hokey results. It's like the AI doesn't know how to handle a character wearing badass armor and a huge friggan sword. In battles I've seen her just jump up and down constantly when fighting a bandit, other times they run behind my main character and never seem to engage the enemy (which can be frustrating when bandit archers loving melt mages and you need the warrior in front to draw their fire). Sometimes, warcry works for half a second before the archers resume fire on everyone else except the warrior. Other times they can be pretty decent. I found warrior pawns to be complete trash unless you're using the "Go!" command. Otherwise they just hang out around you and won't do much. Even then, I think you're better off with different vocations. Warrior players are pretty good and really fun, but pawns just don't handle it as well as they do other vocations. A fighter or ranger with the challenger AI handles stuff like archers far better than warrior does. Its also kind of disheartening to see the AI continually miss with the warrior's signature charge up attacks. I really wish pawns could be hybrid classes. It'd bring a lot more variety to the party, and I'd get better use out of some of the awesome equipment thats collecting dust in my storage.
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If you guys ever find yourself hurting for money early game, go down to the Man-Swallowing Falls and keep clearing it out. There are multiple giant bags of gold (worth 10,000) down there, 1000 gold coin pouches just laying around in gather spots, not to mention multiple pieces of armor and an expensive ring that'll respawn. It's an easy place to reach from the beginning of the game, though you may want to bring pawns that know how to deal with saurians if you're really low. I reached Gran Soren for the first time with over 100,000 gold mostly because I went in there once.
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Sindai posted:Two things that have been nagging at me: I believe it means that it's what I've always called "smite targeting," that is, it strikes down from the heavens and ignores anything between you and the target. edit:  I wake up early to play DD and the servers are unavailable.
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So I finally decided to stop dicking around and actually start the main Wyrmhunter quest line. I decide to clear out the goblin fort, so I'm walking from Gran Soren to wherever the red marker is on my map. It gets dark about halfway through. Nothing too bad so far, just saurions (who my magick archer just loving explodes now) and goblins/hobgoblins. It became absolutely pitch-black dark, even with everyone in my party holding a lantern (you can give your hired pawns lanterns and oil and they'll return them when they're dismissed). I hear my pawn say something about a goblin chieftain. So I start attacking the dude I see. Then I notice to his right is a loving cyclops. I pop out a magic flare arrow and bam, there were like 10 hobgoblins and a cyclops altogether. I managed to wipe out the weaker guys pretty fast, then spammed the 10-shot seeker arrows on the cyclops as my guys wailed on him. But I was noticing random bursts of flame at my general direction, I had no clue what it was. And then I saw it. A loving drake was attacking me while I was fighting the cyclops. How the hell do you even fight drakes? I realized you shot the wings to make it fall to the ground, but how do you safely attack the heart? The ground stomp move it does pretty much one-shots my team.
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May 26, 2012 16:18
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Just cleared out the quarry, getting some decent armor and a nice weapon from the merchant after I got out (I went in from the forest/fortress side). While I was in there, I discovered something fun. If you spam the charged heavy attack with a sword, and you happen to have a fighter and a warrior as your pawns, you can stunlock ogres pretty much until they die or you fail to keep the timing. They just keep getting staggered by the frequency of damage being done to them when you have three tanks.
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May 26, 2012 16:24
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So far I'm not finding this game so hard, I haven't had any trouble with Bandits since my Tank Pawn always runs for the strongest enemies it sees while I make a beeline for mages and archers and slice them up, my Rented Pawns generally do their own thing too. Ogres are a joke, since my party is mostly female, they spend most of the time lumbering around in random directions as they constantly change female targets, so I can just slash their ankles making them fall over constantly. My hardest fight so far was when I got jumped by a Chimera and a pack of Goblins, of course Chimeras are not half as hard as they look, still can do a lot of damage it decides to target me but again, my Pawn is set to defend my rear end at all costs.
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I bought this on the assumption it would be kind of like Monster Hunter if it were done by From Software, and so far that's a pretty accurate description. Haven't gotten too far yet, but I'm a little bit worried - I focused on the main quest line that you get prodded towards as soon as I hit Gran Soren, but after completing a single quest I got told I'd been locked out of another that I had assumed was story-important. Does this happen often? Should I be careful around completing the obvious plot-important quests in case I get locked out of anything?
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My dwarf fighter pawn, Cleftjaw, is pretty awesome. He charges in knocking poo poo around and keeps the heat off of me. I've yet to see him die and I'm level 21. He earned me about 25k rc before level 9, and he is apparently highly recommended. I think using a friend's pawn is free too. Psn: ZoSo_Wizard My biggest question is where can I find more rift stores? I need more metamorphosis scrolls so I can change my arisen from a down syndrome Michael Jackson.
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I love how powerful sorcerers get. I just took down a chimera in under a minute with a maelstrom and a gicel.
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So I got this game last night and have been playing it a fair bit, I think I am level 12 now. I threw my gamertag up on the list, I made my pawn to be a mage or healer in mind. I personally chose to be a strider. I keep getting owned by random stuff.  I'll set off to do a quest and meet like 10 bandits, inevitably one of which takes awhile to whittle down and somehow ends up killing me in the process. Oh well. I just got to Gran Soren and picked up the pawn guild quest but from what I've just read in the past few pages it might be, uhh, difficult? So not sure where to go from there. Guess I'll figure it out when I take the quest.I also read about how every pawn seems to be a girl, so though I was going to make a girl pawn I made a guy, except he doesn't look any good. I was gonna go for a girl power team, but no harm lost I guess! And I totally see what people mean about the abundance of girl pawns in the rift. That, and creepy children looking pawns as well. I'm sure some people just wanted to roleplay a badass small person but after reading the TVTropes thread (with all its pedophilia) it kinda creeps me out. e: poo poo I think I even hired a small child-soldier named Rin, that was the name of a little girl in some pedophilic manga even... I hope that's not what it was
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My pawn is a fat wizard that holds all my loot. I've given him both gimp masks and wizard hats, and he's gotten all 2s and 4s for appearance. He is awesome.
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May 26, 2012 16:55
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grrarg posted:Idols So wait, how exactly do you get the golden idol? And what does it matter if you turn it in Bronze, Silver, or Gold?
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May 26, 2012 16:56
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So where's a good place to find boar? I remember killing a few several hours ago but kind of forgot where...
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Lotish posted:So where's a good place to find boar? I remember killing a few several hours ago but kind of forgot where... The Witchwood and that one little pen full of boars in Gran Soren
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Dogbutt posted:So wait, how exactly do you get the golden idol? And what does it matter if you turn it in Bronze, Silver, or Gold? The golden idol is a special quest reward for the quest where you escort Fournival's daughter through Gran Soren. At the very end of the quest, she'll challenge you to a race. After the race is over, the quest is complete and you'll get your EXP/Gold. The important thing however is to lose the race! Go back and talk to her after the quest and she'll give you a reward based upon the race's result. Winning the race nets you a Golden Egg, losing it gives you the Golden Idol. So swallow your pride and let the little girl kick your rear end.
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Dogbutt posted:So wait, how exactly do you get the golden idol? Lose the race with Symone to get one.
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Policenaut posted:The golden idol is a special quest reward for the quest where you escort Fournival's daughter through Gran Soren. At the very end of the quest, she'll challenge you to a race. After the race is over, the quest is complete and you'll get your EXP/Gold. The important thing however is to lose the race! Go back and talk to her after the quest and she'll give you a reward based upon the race's result. Winning the race nets you a Golden Egg, losing it gives you the Golden Idol. Is it a notice board quest? I haven't seen that one.
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Dogbutt posted:Is it a notice board quest? I haven't seen that one. You have to talk to Fournival to get it. He didn't give me the quest until after his trial but it might be different for you.
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So, I'm currently running around as a Strider and I could use some help in what to focus on since I feel awfully weak. I just killed the Hydra and it feels like I'm just doing slivers of damage against bandits unless I'm buffed with an elemental weapon spell. I did get the tangle skill which pretty much paid for itself in hilarity, since it allowed me to snare bandits into pretty little parcels that I threw over a cliff repeatedly.
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Is it a good thing I saved what's her face from being strangled by the duke? I was worried I did something wrong.
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Sylphosaurus posted:...it feels like I'm just doing slivers of damage against bandits unless I'm buffed with an elemental weapon spell. Here, you've discovered one of the major themes of the game. Make sure to hire pawns to buff you all the time.
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Question about the Wyrmking Ring (forging it and what I miss out on and what not): I'm really tempted to keep the ring but I know that the duke tries to give you a reward later and he can't open his special treasure chest with the fake ring and you miss out on it. Can anybody who gave him the real ring tell me what the reward is? I've heard its a cape but how does it look and what special abilities does it have?
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Sylphosaurus posted:So, I'm currently running around as a Strider and I could use some help in what to focus on since I feel awfully weak. I just killed the Hydra and it feels like I'm just doing slivers of damage against bandits unless I'm buffed with an elemental weapon spell. The secret to playing a Strider is as follows. Step 1. Ensnare Step 2. Scarlet Kisses Step 3. Repeat as needed. Step 4. Biting/Cutting wind fleeing enemies.
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When can I use the Prommissary Notes? I can't give it to her, and she doesn't say anything about it.Policenaut posted:You have to talk to Fournival to get it. He didn't give me the quest until after his trial but it might be different for you. He gave it to me a few days after finishing Land of Opportunity. I haven't even started the Wyrmhunt quests.
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I've read most of the thread, but just picked up the game and feel a bit overwhelmed. Is there a decent starter guide somewhere? If I'm a mage, should my pawn be a warrior or can I roll with two mages or what?
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Comrade Flynn posted:I've read most of the thread, but just picked up the game and feel a bit overwhelmed. Is there a decent starter guide somewhere? Very curious about this myself. Just starting out, the game seems pretty daunting--are there things right at the very beginning I should be doing (around Cassardis and the Encampment I mean) to help get myself off the ground?
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Comrade Flynn posted:I've read most of the thread, but just picked up the game and feel a bit overwhelmed. Is there a decent starter guide somewhere? If I'm a mage, should my pawn be a warrior or can I roll with two mages or what? You can have your pawn be a Mage too, and even hire 2 more mages as support pawns if you wanted to. Having your pawn be a Fighter might be a better idea though - they get high defence and aggro abilities to keep enemies busy while you stand back and cast. Role Play McMurphy posted:Can an assassin use a longsword sans shield and then a bow? Yep 
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Comrade Flynn posted:I've read most of the thread, but just picked up the game and feel a bit overwhelmed. Is there a decent starter guide somewhere? If I'm a mage, should my pawn be a warrior or can I roll with two mages or what? In general, you can use pretty much whatever the hell you feel like so long as you have some way to A) inflict status and/or B) Enchant everyone's weapons to the proper element. I've found multiple casters to work quite well myself. I currently have one Mage (hired pawn), two Sorcerors (myself and a hired pawn) and a Strider (main pawn, just to level her up in it and get a bit more Stamina) and we're pretty much wrecking everything, killing Cyclops and Chimera in under a minute. However, I do use a fair amount of curatives even with the healer pawn, so take that as you will. I'd make sure to bring a handfull of grasses/etc if you don't have a Fighter to draw ire. Really it comes down to preparing for what you're going out to do - Torpor and poison are good for large monsters, so if you have spells, arrows or rusted melee weapons, use 'em! (You can swap weapons even in the middle of combat - leading off with rusted daggers to status and then swapping in damage daggers seems to work very well for my Strider, at least.) Most people seem to have a love affair with fire, which is reasonable as it IS pretty useful in that it lingers and can burn wings, but it isn't an 'end-all' element. Armoured Cyclops are far more vulnerable to lightning, for example (it also shatters their armour,) while holy light kills Skeletons about twice as fast as fire. Drakes will snort you up one nostril and out the other if you try fire against them, definitely want ice there (or just crush 'em in a tornado) and so on. The only element I've never found particularly useful is Dark. Maybe it works better on bandits and the like, but I haven't noticed a huge jump over fire or electric on them.
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