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Danzou posted:These are fun characters. I love Malack blowing off Nale. Depends how hard he's knocked out, I guess. Also, does Durokan have anything that might help find him once they get a moment of peace?
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Danzou posted:These are fun characters. I love Malack blowing off Nale. The demons he made a pact with will probably come into play soon. Whether or not she cooperates is another matter.
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Danzou posted:Is there any chance of Varsuuvius saving herself from the pit, or has this clinched her out of the battle? Sort of, once he/she has "rested" long enough to regain positive hit points it wouldn't be difficult at all for a high level wizard to get out of there. It will probably take too long to be relevant in this battle though. Maybe if the party gets captured and V can put together a cunning rescue. Poil fucked around with this message at 09:59 on May 19, 2012 |
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May 19, 2012 09:36
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I love how Nale has basically become second banana to his -way- more awesome subordinates. Maybe the Linear Guild will become useful now that there's a Malick around to go "No, this is stupid exposition!"
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Danzou posted:These are fun characters. I love Malack blowing off Nale. What I don't get is - what's Varsuvius' actual status? In rules terms? Either he's under zero hits, (in which case he's dying - unlikely), or subject to an incapacitating effect (spell/poison, no indication that this is the case), or at exactly zero hits (which gives you consciousness and a single action via a bizarre little rule). Falling down pits in 3.5 doesn't knock you unconscious. It's the first plot development I've really not liked in the strip, since it's so transparently to keep V out of the fight. So this is rules-nerd gravy on my disgruntlement steak. Edit: Unless - subdual damage putting him under zero? Would that do it? But falling damage is lethal! INSUPPORTABLE, MR BURLEW
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May 21, 2012 02:08
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He didn't fall down the hole, he was knocked down it by a big slab.
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sebmojo posted:Falling down pits in 3.5 doesn't knock you unconscious. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 02:51 on May 21, 2012 |
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Colon V posted:He could have gone into negatives, but made her stabilization roll. Which was a 10 percent chance each round to not take another point of damage. Once you hit -10, you're dead.
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crime fighting hog posted:Which was a 10 percent chance each round to not take another point of damage. Once you hit -10, you're dead. I'm thinking each time we get a shot of Varsuvie down there, it's another -1 hp.....
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Colon V posted:He could have gone into negatives, but made her stabilization roll. Unlikely, but definitely not impossible, especially with some minor DM Fiat. Is stabilisation a 3.5 rule? It's in 4e, but it's been a while... let's see: Oh, right. Didn't know that, thanks.
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sebmojo posted:Is stabilisation a 3.5 rule? It's in 4e, but it's been a while... let's see: Oh, right. Didn't know that, thanks. Yeah the 4e stabilize rules are much less forgiving. Once you are under 0, you have 3 death saves. Each turn you roll a d20, if it is 1-9 you check off a death save, if it is 10-19 you stay where you are (and roll again next turn) and if it is 20 (and you still have healing surges left) you are stable and can spend a surge. V would be either back on her feet, or quite dead by now in 4e. 3e you have a pretty decent chance of getting back up, if the attack itself took you to -1 through -3 or so.
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That's not really much less forgiving. If you're negative in 4e you have only a 9% chance of failing three saves in a row, before any saving throw bonuses you might have.
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greatn posted:That's not really much less forgiving. If you're negative in 4e you have only a 9% chance of failing three saves in a row, before any saving throw bonuses you might have. EDIT: And if they can give you one of those they can get you back on your feet.
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Nilbop posted:Belkar can do one monster of a jump when he wants to. It looks to me like Roy threw him over the pit.
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Zereth posted:Three total without being healed somehow, and saving throw bonuses are pretty difficult to get other than in temporary fashion from leader powers. There's a feat that gives +2 to all saves. Between feats and items, there are actually a lot of ways to get permanent boosts to all save or to death saves, though usually the only characters that go all out with it are Revenants that want to abuse staying concious at negative hit points. Those usually end up with a +9 to death saves so they never fail.
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bartolimu posted:It looks to me like Roy threw him over the pit. Aid another is a pretty sweet deal!
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Nah, I think that Roy's just handing Durkon over the pit.
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MikeJF posted:Nah, I think that Roy's just handing Durkon over the pit. As much as I hate to think Rich passed up an opportunity for a dwarf-tossing joke, on second look it appears you're right.
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Belkar has a Ring of Jumping, he doesn't need any help.
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I really, really like Malack now. Better than Tarquin. Because honestly, who else could call bullshit on Tarquin? And on the other side of the spectrum, thus far, no one needs to call bullshit on Malack.
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Once again, Team Tarquin are proved awesome. That was the most satisfying anticlimax and backdown of an argument I've seen.
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MikeJF posted:Once again, Team Tarquin are proved awesome. 
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HKR posted:There's Tarquin and Malack slash fiction right? No, and we don't need to look. There's nothing more satisfying, or terrifying, than a friendship between villains.
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Tarquin and Malack: Best Evil Villain Friends Forever 
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Grown ups are talking, Nale. 
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"As per our usual protocols." Can't wait to find out what that means...
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DoctorTristan posted:"As per our usual protocols." Can't wait to find out what that means... It just means that Tarquin and Malak (and the other four) have been working together for a very long time, and have worked out some internal rules. Seems rule one is that the big picture always comes first.
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The reason high-level villain teams are good at working things out is that the ones who aren't kill each other. It's going to be so great when Tarquin gives the okay for Malak to snuff out Nale.
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Tinyn posted:It just means that Tarquin and Malak (and the other four) have been working together for a very long time, and have worked out some internal rules. Seems rule one is that the big picture always comes first. So an 'eye on the prize', Machieavellian sorta deal. Seems to be working well for them so far.
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Their modus operandi is propping up figurehead kings until their inevitable demise. They're just treating Nale as yet another puppet king.
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Tarqin did in fact try to have someone killed for making himself look bad in front of his son. He was pretty civil to the guy beforehand too! Not sure if its going to work out the same way, but I wouldn't go and say "Team Villain Friendship" yet.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:Tarqin did in fact try to have someone killed for making himself look bad in front of his son. He was pretty civil to the guy beforehand too! This is a multiple decade villain alliance. That's rare stuff, so I'm willing to lay odds that it would take rather a lot to get any member of said alliance to betray one another. Team Villain Friendship seems apt.
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I fully expect these two to be close allies for life. It's something Rich has discussed before. Part of Nale's characterization is that he and Tarqin don't get alone, and now we know that Tarqin is far more impressed with Elan.
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wiegieman posted:It's going to be so great when Tarquin gives the okay for Malak to snuff out Nale. I am waiting with bated breath for this one. It's going to be so sweet. (I bet Rich cockblocks me.  )
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Everyone's looking forward to it so much and it's been hinted as so hard that I can't help but feel that something totally different is going to go down.
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MikeJF posted:Everyone's looking forward to it so much and it's been hinted as so hard that I can't help but feel that something totally different is going to go down. This. As much as people like Tarquin? He's a villain. He's an arrogant self-confident villain who is utterly convinced he knows how things are going to happen. There is no way he's going to get what he wants. If anything, the only way to really defeat him is to give him an ignoble death, because nothing tarnishes a legend like a bad ending. He's probably going to underestimate one of the other villains and die realizing that he was a stepping stone for someone bigger than he is, not the big bad of his own legend. It could be someone else but Nale seems to all but beg for it, especially since Nale's been a series-long antagonist while Tarquin's been around for an arc or so. (And if you want to make a meta-joke about it, he joined Nale's order and that never goes well.)
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ImpAtom posted:This. As much as people like Tarquin? He's a villain. He's an arrogant self-confident villain who is utterly convinced he knows how things are going to happen. There is no way he's going to get what he wants. If anything, the only way to really defeat him is to give him an ignoble death, because nothing tarnishes a legend like a bad ending. I'm just hoping that Nale gets his comeuppance. Which almost guarantees he won't. (Not in a way that I find satisfying, at least.)
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ImpAtom posted:This. As much as people like Tarquin? He's a villain. He's an arrogant self-confident villain who is utterly convinced he knows how things are going to happen. There is no way he's going to get what he wants. If anything, the only way to really defeat him is to give him an ignoble death, because nothing tarnishes a legend like a bad ending. It would be entirely Xykon's style to show up and snuff him out without even realising it. e: I mean, lets step back and look at what Tarquin is doing right now. He has literally only just heard about these gates and the awesome power that they contain and has decided on the spur of the moment to make a play for that power (nb: the exact opposite of the strategy he's been using to keep himself in charge/not dead). In doing so, he's put himself in direct competition with Xykon and Redcloak without even knowing it. And they're going to be teleporting in any minute. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 14:04 on May 29, 2012 |
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