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VagueRant posted:Now if Elentor and the people who quoted him can just edit that out, problem goes away and we can get back to discussing why they thought purple was a good colour for 1st Class members of SOLDIER. You know, until this thread I always thought that it was blue? This changes... almost nothing, really, but it's still a nice thing to learn.
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VagueRant posted:Now if Elentor and the people who quoted him can just edit that out, problem goes away and we can get back to discussing why they thought purple was a good colour for 1st Class members of SOLDIER. It is only fitting that 1sts would get the most fabulous uniforms.
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May 30, 2012 15:27
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Dauntasa posted:It is only fitting that 1sts would get the most fabulous uniforms. Speaking of which, has Sephiroth ever been depicted in the regular uniform as opposed to his iconic outfit?
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May 30, 2012 16:09
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SirPhoebos posted:Speaking of which, has Sephiroth ever been depicted in the regular uniform as opposed to his iconic outfit? No, shame really. Though, I think the purple would clash with his hair 
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May 30, 2012 16:12
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Pesky Splinter posted:No, shame really. Though, I think the purple would clash with his hair I think it'd be funnier to see him as an MP getting chewed out for his non-regulation haircut.
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May 30, 2012 16:14
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Dauntasa posted:I think it'd be funnier to see him as an MP getting chewed out for his non-regulation haircut.  "Wadda you call that poo poo, boy! That ain't regulation? Wadda' think you are? A purple anime fairy? The best part of you, is with your momma's body in a tank- Look me in the eye goddammit! You come here as a aniMAY, you're gonna leave an aniMAN!" Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 30, 2012 |
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May 30, 2012 16:33
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Reminder:Elentor posted:* NO SPOILERS. I met two people this year who had just started playing FF7 and did not actually know anything, even the major events everyone knows about. So it's possible there will be one or two readers who don't know either. Don't talk about anything beyond what we've seen. I know there's a couple things that might seem ridiculous, but the OP asked for it; please don't just decide for everyone what is or isn't "common knowledge" .
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VagueRant posted:Now if Elentor and the people who quoted him can just edit that out, problem goes away and we can get back to discussing why they thought purple was a good colour for 1st Class members of SOLDIER. Actually, via Crisis Core, it was apparently retconned black.
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May 30, 2012 22:00
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VagueRant posted:Now if Elentor and the people who quoted him can just edit that out, problem goes away and we can get back to discussing why they thought purple was a good colour for 1st Class members of SOLDIER. Nah, the SOLDIER 1st Class uniform has always been navy blue. It's just that after like a hundred wash cycles, it kinda washes out to purple.
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Magil of Shadow posted:Actually, via Crisis Core, it was apparently retconned black. In all seriousness that's one of the more minor retcons. The only thing that purple evokes for me is aristocracy and birth-based arrogance, which doesn't really apply to SOLDIER First Class. It's not like they're part of the bourgeois, they're just really good at killing people. Using a quick google search though, purple can also be applied to spiritual strength and mystery, which I guess applies. Black evokes death, earth, secrecy, class, evil, and a lot of things which have to do with power, authority, and murder. Overall, seems to fit better.
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May 30, 2012 22:19
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The White Dragon posted:Nah, the SOLDIER 1st Class uniform has always been navy blue. It's just that after like a hundred wash cycles, it kinda washes out to purple. Or if you're a special snowflake you can wear whatever the hell you feel like. But you better be extra good at slaughtering armies for that right.
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May 30, 2012 22:31
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Honestly, they probably did purple because purple stands out really well onscreen.
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Trasson posted:Honestly, they probably did purple because purple stands out really well onscreen. Same old "Mario wears overalls" solution where character design is dictated by technology limitations.
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Twelve year old me always thought it was purple because purple is the colour of the aristocracy, and SOLDIER are Elites. I think 3rd class is Blue and 2nd is Red, right?
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May 30, 2012 23:22
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Purple is a perfectly sensible color for an elite death squad.
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I think I read somewhere that the first class SOLDIER uniforms were always meant to be black, but that they couldn't make it so that it didn't look bad on the little LEGO sprites.
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Byers2142 posted:You know, until this thread I always thought that it was blue? This changes... almost nothing, really, but it's still a nice thing to learn. It's blue. Cloud's is drawn (emphasis on drawn) purple often because he's mostly yellow colored otherwise and it's purple's compliment. Pops out to the viewer more. Its kinda like how in comics a lot of black is blue or purple to avoid looking flat. Tifa's white tank top is probably to break up the dark space from her huge-rear end hair and dark shorts. Aeris' dumb red jacket is probably to break up all the ~PINK~ or because she's from a 90's comic book or I guess she needs a place to keep her keys n stuff. Hell, even Cloud's dress is purple. You can't really do the full black outfit except on HD stuff like we got now. Tifa's outfit in AC is pretty nice, but we wouldn't know kilt from skort to asscape if they tried that back in the PS1 days. A skirt and tanktop is as much fanservice as pragmatic programming. keet fucked around with this message at 01:06 on May 31, 2012 |
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Cool Ghost posted:I think I read somewhere that the first class SOLDIER uniforms were always meant to be black, but that they couldn't make it so that it didn't look bad on the little LEGO sprites. They're not sprites And yea, you couldn't do a black outfit properly back then. It wasn't impossible back in the PSX but it was very hard to pull properly.
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Pesky Splinter posted:You come here as a aniMAY, you're gonna leave an aniMAN!" I just know that one day, I will say this aloud.
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simplefish posted:I just know that one day, I will say this aloud. Lucky for you A-kon is this weekend. I'm sure you could find somebody to say it to there, whether you would make it back out is another question.
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SirPhoebos posted:Speaking of which, has Sephiroth ever been depicted in the regular uniform as opposed to his iconic outfit? Pesky Splinter posted:No, shame really. Though, I think the purple would clash with his hair I take this back:  The modders have made him dress in uniform. [e2]: This should make it easier for contrast. Behold the orange, ye mighty, and despair! [e]: I like how his mouth is wide-open in horror that all he can see is the blueish-purple void. And you're right about the black, it looks dodgy enough on Sephiroth, let alone how it would look on the troops. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 01:18 on May 31, 2012 |
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I like how they contrast the purple uniform with the... purple background. VVVVVVVVVVVVV I was just thinking about that. The gaping mouth has always been there. But why God, why? Elentor fucked around with this message at 01:17 on May 31, 2012 |
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May 31, 2012 01:10
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Why did they have these gaping mouth holes in the PC version?
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Pesky Splinter posted:I take this back: Isn't that the wrong uniform for SOLDIER? It looks more like a generic Shinra mook uniform.
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NothingToFyr posted:Isn't that the wrong uniform for SOLDIER? It looks more like a generic Shinra mook uniform. You...are absolutely right. I'm guessing this is just a mod to have Sephiroth replace Cloud, and Cloud has to wear that mook's uniform in Junon. Yeah, first class is purple isn't it?
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Brainamp posted:Lucky for you A-kon is this weekend. I'm sure you could find somebody to say it to there, whether you would make it back out is another question. For content - Purple, black or blue? You decide! This is a quick-n-dirty colour palette done by taking screenshots and then using a colour-picker tool. No, it's not authoratative or probably even that accurate, but since the line between blue and purple is different to some people, I thought it might be interesting. Three values for a part that's lit, one that's neither lit nor in shade, and one that's supposed to be in shadow. Lit -> Medium -> In Shadow "Blocky" Cloud: 513F67 -> 3F3051 -> 211D2C "Battle" Cloud: 343144 -> 1F1E30 -> 0D0D19 (In especially bright light, lightest is 403869, darkest is 120C18) "Advent Children" Cloud: 3A3E4A -> 222632 -> 07080D What got me is just how dark all of these colours are. Even the "light" colours aren't as light in block form as they seem in comparison to their surroundings. Really says a lot about the environment FF7 has. The colours are surprisingly similar between Battle Cloud and AC Cloud, with Blocky Cloud being a bit lighter overall, but with similar variance between light, base colour and shade. simplefish fucked around with this message at 01:25 on May 31, 2012 |
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quote:Why did they have these gaping mouth holes in the PC version?
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If Saints Row the Third taught me anything it's that purple is the manliest colour. Therefore Purple SOLDIER First Class is Ok.
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Saucy! posted:Yeah, why is it that the enhanced detail (or whatever they call it) model of Sephiroth has that huge black dot on his face? I assume it's supposed to be his mouth, but, why is it so big? Is his jaw permanently dropped in surprise? Did his lips get stung by a bee at a KISS concert? Is he a mouthbreather? I imagine it'd be kind of hard to take some world-ending demigod seriously if you can hear his soft palate vibrating up and down every half-second like that kid from Hey Arnold. The thing is, it's not just him, almost every character had this face hole.
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simplefish posted:Lit -> Medium -> In Shadow For those who are bad at visualising hex colours; 
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FillInTheBlank posted:For those who are bad at visualising hex colours; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doI9mJaBvfE
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iTrust posted:If Saints Row the Third taught me anything it's that purple is the manliest colour. This man here speaks the truth...not that my gang tag has any sway in my answer.
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I see this and I picture Sephiroth making an "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" sound throughout every single conversation. The guy must have been hell to work with even before he went bonkers.
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That's just his impressive mustache.
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iTrust posted:If Saints Row the Third taught me anything it's that purple is the manliest colour.  We agree with this.
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I played the PC version first so when I played it on the PSX one of my first thoughts was; "The mouths are gone. Thank God."
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It's strange to me that Cloud would even still be wearing the SOLDIER uniform.
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revtoiletduck posted:It's strange to me that Cloud would even still be wearing the SOLDIER uniform. Psychological warfare. Would YOU mess with a guy wearing the uniform of the top rank of an elite military order, who has literal superhuman strength and combat skill? It advertises to everyone that I you mess with this guy he will gently caress you up. I guess random encounters are just the brave/stupid enemies
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Prison Warden posted:Psychological warfare. Would YOU mess with a guy wearing the uniform of the top rank of an elite military order, who has literal superhuman strength and combat skill? It advertises to everyone that I you mess with this guy he will gently caress you up. Or the ones who drew the short straw. "Man...I'm gonna miss Steve." "Why?" "He lost the bet, he has to be the one to go fight that 1st Class who went rogue and is running around with that barmaid and some slum girl." "Oohhhh....man, I'd HATE to be him right about now..."
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revtoiletduck posted:It's strange to me that Cloud would even still be wearing the SOLDIER uniform. It's a good look, man.
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