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jonathan posted:If you're competing for a seasons worth of points you shouldn't be forced to run DLC cars. You should when it's the Beetle. I about died laughing when we did one lap of stock Beetles on Iberian Mini Reverse last night.
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Don't knock the beetle man. A stock type 3 (which uses effectively the same engine) ran in the 24 hours of Lemons this weekend, and took 15th overall. Sure it's not going to win any land speed records but there's something to be said about reliability. 
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Jun 11, 2012 21:35
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Cannot Find Server posted:After much thinking, I think I have a rules package we can use for Le Mans. The LMPCs don't run at Le Mans, though they are ACO homologated for the ALMS/LMS  Edit: not that it'll matter to me, I'm in the wrong house and timezone this week. Double Edit: is this news? From that hopper article: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Forza_LeMans_2012/?fwlhd=1 posted:Drive the 2013 SRT Viper GTS – Available both in Forza Horizon, as well as in a soon-to-be-released free download for Forza fans, the 2013 SRT Viper is a car that must be driven to be believed. This American supercar will be playable by Le Mans attendees both in the Forza Horizon demo, as well as in Forza Motorsport 4 Xisticide fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Jun 11, 2012 21:43
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The viper being free is news to me. That is awesome, I had a feeling it was either going to be free, or paid DLC with additional content.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:06
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Oh poo poo, when's the Horizon demo?!
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Jun 11, 2012 22:07
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The demo will probably only be available at certain events (E3, American Le Mans races, and Le Mans itself) and then put up on Xbox Live a few weeks before the game launches.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:08
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I wonder if it'll be the free car in the next pack, or just a stand alone release.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:15
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It'll be a stand alone release like the Hyundai pack was.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:21
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The Viper is not a SuperCar. I wish people would stop calling every rwd 2 door car quicker than a Miata a Super car.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:32
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jonathan posted:The Viper is not a SuperCar. I wish people would stop calling every rwd 2 door car quicker than a Miata a Super car. This is going to be a lovely boring derail!
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Jun 11, 2012 22:32
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Steve McScene posted:This is going to be a lovely boring derail! Its important that we get the terminology correct for our fake computer cars.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:34
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jonathan posted:The Viper is not a SuperCar. I wish people would stop calling every rwd 2 door car quicker than a Miata a Super car. What do you call a V10 with 640 horse power then? It beats out the Ferrari Italia in power, and that's a super car.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:48
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I said come in! posted:What do you call a V10 with 640 horse power then? It beats out the Ferrari Italia in power, and that's a super car. It's not because somethingawful internet poster "jonathan" said so and that should be good enough for us. 
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Jun 11, 2012 22:50
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Maker Of Shoes posted:It's not because somethingawful internet poster "jonathan" said so and that should be good enough for us. No, clearly the new Viper is a mini-van for soccer moms.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:52
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I said come in! posted:No, clearly the new Viper is a mini-van for soccer moms. Well the 2013 model does have electronic driving assists now.....
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Jun 11, 2012 22:54
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Well the 2013 model does have electronic driving assists now..... That settles it, it'll be my cheap go to car for when I want to go grocery shopping.
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Jun 11, 2012 22:55
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Steve McScene posted:This is going to be a lovely boring derail! Pretty much this.
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Jun 11, 2012 23:00
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If the Viper wasn't a supercar, would it be able to do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvLjKSPiiQ
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Jun 11, 2012 23:30
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jonathan posted:If you're competing for a seasons worth of points you shouldn't be forced to run DLC cars. well, we do spec pintos and have a non-dlc equivalent car. I imagine the same could be done here. Cannot Find Server posted:After much thinking, I think I have a rules package we can use for Le Mans. Going by the criteria listed above these are the eligible cars in the game (some are DLC) GT cars 2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2 2010 BMW #79 Jeff Koons BMW M3 GT2 Art Car 2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia (if tuning up street cars is allowed) 2011 Ferrari 458 Challenge (if tuning up street cars is allowed) 2006 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F430GT 2010 Ferrari #83 Risi Competizione F430GT 2010 Ferrari #89 Hankook Team Farnbacher F430GT 2008 Ferrari #90 Farnbacher Racing F430GT 2009 Ford #40 Robertson Racing Ford GT Mk7 2005 Ford Ford GT (if tuning up street cars is allowed) 2010 Jaguar #33 RSR XKR GT 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV 2009 Lotus Evora (if tuning up street cars is allowed) 2011 Porsche #045 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR 2011 Porsche #17 Team Falken 911 GT3-RSR 2010 Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85 (if tuning up street cars is allowed) Prototype Cars 2011 Aston Martin #009 Aston Martin Racing AMR One 2008 Audi #2 Audi Sport North America RIO TDI 2011 Audi #4 Forza Motorsport RIO TDI 2011 Audi #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15++ TDI 2011 Audi #2 Audi Sport North America R18 TDI 2009 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Lola 2011 Peugeot #10 Matmut-Oreca 908 2009 Peugeot #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908 2009 Audi #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15 TDI 2011 Aston Martin #6 Muscle Milk Aston Martin Lola Edit: removed the R2 cars GutBomb fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Jun 11, 2012 23:40
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The R2 GT1 cars like the DBR9 and Corvette are not able to get down to R3. However, it is possible to do 3 classes, and seeing as GT1 was only recently cut out... ...This of course means that you'd have 3 small groups competing for a long time. To say the least they would be spread out. Also, I don't think street cars upgraded to R3 are really applicable. I would just use the pre existing GT class R3 cars such as the Ferrari F430s and 458, Porsche 911 GT3 RSRs, Corvette GT (the one added in DLC) and the Lamborghini Gallardo GT car.
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Jun 11, 2012 23:47
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Deeters posted:If the Viper wasn't a supercar, would it be able to do this? It is a tragedy that they did not include the incar / bumpercam of this.
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Falken posted:Also, I don't think street cars upgraded to R3 are really applicable. I would just use the pre existing GT class R3 cars such as the Ferrari F430s and 458, Porsche 911 GT3 RSRs, Corvette GT (the one added in DLC) and the Lamborghini Gallardo GT car. Yeah the only ones that don't have equivalents are the Spyker and the Evora.
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There's also the DLC Panoz Abruzzi for GT2.
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Jun 11, 2012 23:59
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Xisticide posted:There's also the DLC Panoz Abruzzi for GT2. I based the list on cars that participated in the last 3 years. Did I miss that one?
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GutBomb posted:I based the list on cars that participated in the last 3 years. Did I miss that one? No it never ran Le Mans, but neither did the Lambo and is the "Spirit of Le Mans" Edit: wait I may have my Lamborghinis mixed up, sorry Xisticide fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jun 12, 2012 |
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Jun 12, 2012 00:09
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Falken posted:The R2 GT1 cars like the DBR9 and Corvette are not able to get down to R3. However, it is possible to do 3 classes, and seeing as GT1 was only recently cut out... Yeah, I thought about doing LMP1, LMP2, GT1 and GT2, but it's be boring and too spread out. Two classes of 8 guys sounds like a better time. I also initially thought about R2 instead of R3 so we could have people drive the GT2 and GT1 cars in R2, but I don't think people would be down for that (maybe I'm wrong?).
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Hi, everybody! Season 4 of GoonSpec here... Just checking in. I have to find my password to edit the site again, but until then get your up through 1960 cars ready for this Wednesday at Spa-Fr...oh dammit. How about at the Mille-Miglia, better known as Camino Viejo Extreme. That is, PI: E275 Year: -1960 Tires: Stock compound Induction: Stock Must maintain stock engine and layout. See you tonight, if you want. I'm on now.
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I said come in! posted:What do you call a V10 with 640 horse power then? It beats out the Ferrari Italia in power, and that's a super car. So does the Vette zr1, as well as many CAT c16 equipped Semi trucks. But I would lump the Viper in as a Sportscar with the Vette, partly because its not a max effort showcase of technology and style like a Supercar is.
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Jun 12, 2012 02:35
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I'd be up for some Le Mans racing. Just careful about putting on a Wednesday night since both AUGR and GTCC do their spec races on a Wednesday night. I would suggest either Tuesday or Thursday. Or both. Who cares, LE MANS!
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jonathan posted:So does the Vette zr1, as well as many CAT c16 equipped Semi trucks. But I would lump the Viper in as a Sportscar with the Vette, partly because its not a max effort showcase of technology and style like a Supercar is. Tell that to TVR.
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So last night a couple of friends and I did a few private online matches. I told the one hosting about being able to effect the grip of the tires on the track, So he turned it all the way down on one of the speedway tracks. The result was us pretty much us doing laps around an ice skating rink, in S class cars. He then turned the grip back to normal and set the class to F for a point to point uphill on Fujimi Kaido. As soon as the race started, no one really took off. Apparently there is another option that effects the power of your vehicles, and this was all the way down. The result was us getting up to about 11MPH before the first hill, getting halfway up it and then slowing to a stop and sliding backwards. We then held the break and revved our engines up, then released the break to "pop" ourselves up the hill. It turned into 35 minutes of us slowly moving ourselves along the track.
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We've done that sort of thing before in hobbled "G-class" cars (sub-100 PI), and I discovered that you're better off "popping" your car in reverse. The gear ratio is typically higher than first, which helps. 
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jonathan posted:So does the Vette zr1, as well as many CAT c16 equipped Semi trucks. But I would lump the Viper in as a Sportscar with the Vette, partly because its not a max effort showcase of technology and style like a Supercar is. Can we just agree that the line is blurry as hell and "supercar" is not really a well-defined term? Pretty much every performance car in the $80-140k range these days could be called a supercar by someone's definition. Hell, think back to the early '00s, just ten years ago. If I told you of a car with over 650 HP capable of doing 0-60 in 3.5, able to exceed 200 MPH, and that pulled 1G on the skidpad, you'd be thinking about $200k+ European exotics and would have no doubt that whatever it was qualified as a supercar. Today though, that's a $63k Mustang which no one would even consider applying that term to. In the end who the hell cares? Fast car go vroom vroom and such, particularly when it's a game where anyone can have pretty much any car they want.
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LiquidRain posted:We've done that sort of thing before in hobbled "G-class" cars (sub-100 PI), and I discovered that you're better off "popping" your car in reverse. The gear ratio is typically higher than first, which helps. I was driving a peugeot 107, another person was in a Datsun 510, and my friend in the old beetle. I tried "popping" in reverse but felt I was not going as far as when I was forwards. However the old beetle steamrolled us when it came to popping up the hills for some reason.
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crazkylo posted:I was driving a peugeot 107, another person was in a Datsun 510, and my friend in the old beetle. I tried "popping" in reverse but felt I was not going as far as when I was forwards. However the old beetle steamrolled us when it came to popping up the hills for some reason. Rear engine sitting over the drive tires. An FF should get similar results going backwards. An FR going uphill backwards is possibly the worst setup in the game. wolrah posted:Can we just agree that the line is blurry as hell and "supercar" is not really a well-defined term? Pretty much every performance car in the $80-140k range these days could be called a supercar by someone's definition. Hate to chime in here, but I think the no-joke effect of Top Gear has played a bigger role in this development than many will admit. It used to be that supercars were known based on name alone, the McLaren was a McLaren, and if you wanted any more details than that you needed to buddy up to the nasally guy (older times) or the grammar-incapable guy running the car forum (newer times). Now there's a popular resource that enables even the dumbest new money to consider that the McLaren F1 may be too twitchy for them, and that they would be better off with a super saloon since that would have at least have a boot in which to place things. Plus the global economy bla bla bankers bla Veyrons like tic-tacs. I think we're in an era where we can embrace the "hypercar" moniker for cars that function beyond all human need (Veyron), while Supercars are everything that goes beyond sporty. A Miata is sporty. A 640hp Viper, unless it handles like complete rear end and wastes the first 400 of that hp, is super.
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TannhauserGate posted:A 640hp Viper, unless it handles like complete rear end and wastes the first 400 of that hp, is super. There's a Viper that doesn't handle like rear end? 
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Ether Frenzy posted:There's a Viper that doesn't handle like rear end? Vipers apparently have gotten a lot better with handling. Not that I would know personally, there's no way in hell i'll ever get the chance to even sit in one.
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Jun 12, 2012 22:24
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Ether Frenzy posted:There's a Viper that doesn't handle like rear end? Having driven a 3rd gen they are loving scary. It's not that they are ill handling, it just a lot of effort to keep it planted without all the electic nannies keeping watch. Build quality was pretty poor though.
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Is there a cheesy way to earn a bunch of credits? Or is it just grinding for forever to get enough to get the old Ferraris. It seems kinda dumb to have a car cost 9 million credits when winning a race gets you like, 30k or something...
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Is there a cheesy way to earn a bunch of credits? Or is it just grinding for forever to get enough to get the old Ferraris. Do rivals. Or cheese rivals as I should say. Find one you like and set a time. Then very slowly increase that time by as little an increment as you can stand. You'll be able to cash in pretty good up until you hit your threshold. Rinse and repeat.
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