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Jedit posted:You should watch the animated series of Soul Music if you think you've found them all. They get to play with some of the visual jokes that didn't quite translate to the page. Soul Music - Animated (animation and character design is rather...um..."quirky"). Oh, Christopher Lee, I'll obey your every word with that voice.  He's got just the right voice for a creature that has to be both terrifying and comforting, ageless, yet with a kind of innocence. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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I was just at a "flash mob" for The Long Earth in Trafalgar Square. I was on my lunch break so didn't have much time, but it was just a small group of goony looking types (at least two fedoras) standing around waiting for something to happen. I got a badge out of it I guess.
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Jun 20, 2012 13:45
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The animated Soul Music is insane and you have to see it just once. Just for the weird design choices they picked for half the cast.
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Jun 20, 2012 15:55
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The music is legitimately great though.
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Jun 20, 2012 15:59
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The_Doctor posted:The music is legitimately great though. The music does indeed have hole.
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Jun 20, 2012 16:04
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Nobby looks far too human.
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Jun 21, 2012 02:19
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I just noticed I've run out of Discworld books, so I'm ordering more. I'm getting awfully close to the latest book though. Then what will I do? 
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Jun 25, 2012 20:28
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John Dough posted:I just noticed I've run out of Discworld books, so I'm ordering more. I'm getting awfully close to the latest book though. Then what will I do? Read them all again, of course.
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Jun 25, 2012 20:52
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Eric the Mauve posted:Read them all again, of course. I've been doing this for the past 14 years or so.
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Jun 26, 2012 02:15
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Put on a stage play. "I can't do that, Cor-pral Nobbs! Cap-tan Vimes will-go-spare!" *cue audience laughter*
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I'm quite sad to see that a lot of people apparently disliked Making Money, I Shall Wear Midnight and Snuff.  I thoroughly enjoyed all of them (finished Snuff just a couple minutes ago); Snuff certainly had some of the problems mentioned (long monologues, quite a bit of swearing and sometimes strange characterizations) but I definitely found the story intriguing and rather coherent. It certainly puzzles me that some people find MM and ISWM awful enough to suggest other readers to outright skip them - I can't think of any Pratchett book apart from Eric that might be worth skipping.
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Jun 27, 2012 05:44
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Hempuli posted:I'm quite sad to see that a lot of people apparently disliked Making Money, I Shall Wear Midnight and Snuff. Sourcery is pretty poor. Got The Long Earth today (birthday), but unfortunately it will have to wait until I've finished Warbreaker by Brandon Sanderson. I recommend Warbreaker, by the way; it reads a lot like The Malazan Book of the Fallen would if Pratchett had written it, and there's a magic sword that's even funnier than Kring.
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Hempuli posted:I'm quite sad to see that a lot of people apparently disliked Making Money, I Shall Wear Midnight and Snuff. I thought MM was pretty decent. That said, I was bored by ISWM. Most of the books about Tiffany I don't really like outside of a few good scenes. That's not to say they're bad books, I just couldn't get into the character. The Last Continent, The Colour of Magic, The Light Fantastic, Equal Rites are ones that I recommend people to skip. And then I tell them to start at Guards! Guards! and work their way through the watch books. Snuff is still sitting on my bookshelf, pleading for me to read it. [e]: I get the jokes and references, it's just I found it to be rather dull as is. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 12:46
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Snuff just isn't that great. I really, really, wanted it to be, too. The Last Continent only works if you get Australian jokes. Then it's great, otherwise it completely falls flat. Otherwise, yeah, all the early books up to the Mort/Pyramids/Wyrd Sisters era are skippable.
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Jun 27, 2012 12:51
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Mister Roboto posted:[...] Wrong. Totally. In my opinion, of course.
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Loki Kunti posted:Wrong. Totally. Mort is only the fourth book anyway, so you'd be skipping a whole three books. That said, I wouldn't skip any of them, especially if you're reading in order. Sourcery is really great, the opening scene is one of the best he's ever written, and the climax is also pretty great. I don't understand how anyone could dislike Making Money, either, the Moist books are easily my favorites of the recent era, with Thud! and Snuff being the most "meh". The Last Continent is kind of rubbish, admittedly. But it has wizzards in, and they're always amusing. I've always wanted a whole book about Ponder and HEX that's sort of a satire of cyberpunk. "I heard she's got knives in her fingers!" "What, like... all of them?" "Yeah!" "Bloody hell. I can barely stand a papercut, strewth."
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precision posted:I've always wanted a whole book about Ponder and HEX that's sort of a satire of cyberpunk. Hex plays an interestingly large part in the Science of Discworld trilogy, particularly in Darwin's Watch. They actually contain canon stories, so I recommend them if you've run out of novels to read and haven't read them yet.
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Loki Kunti posted:Wrong. Totally. You really think Color of Magic, Light Fantastic, Equal Rites and Sourcery are that good? I would never start a new reader on those--they're less cohesive stories and just random fantasy parody event-after-event. And not too funny, to boot... Mort is probably the best of the early ones, but Wyrd Sisters and Guards! Guards! is when Pratchett really started to create characters versus one-off caricatures, which is sign he got a grasp on the world.
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Jun 27, 2012 18:36
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I wouldnt skip any of them either. I did read them in order, as they came out (only COM and LF were out when I started) so I do have a soft spot for his earlier work. In fact I still think Strata is one of his best books.
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StrawmanUK posted:I wouldnt skip any of them either. I did read them in order, as they came out (only COM and LF were out when I started) so I do have a soft spot for his earlier work. In fact I still think Strata is one of his best books. You must honestly admit that your view (which started 30 years ago) would be completely different than a new reader with their modern expectations, right?
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Jun 28, 2012 00:52
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Mister Roboto posted:You must honestly admit that your view (which started 30 years ago) would be completely different than a new reader with their modern expectations, right? ...I have been reading Terry Pratchett books for over twenty years, when the gently caress did that happen?
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Jun 28, 2012 01:10
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Mister Roboto posted:You really think Color of Magic, Light Fantastic, Equal Rites and Sourcery are that good? I would never start a new reader on those--they're less cohesive stories and just random fantasy parody event-after-event. And not too funny, to boot... Yeah, I started with the first two. They were kind of crap. If I wasn't talked into giving Guards Guards a try, I doubt I'd have ever read another.
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Jun 28, 2012 01:33
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The first four are very very different from the rest of his work.
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StrawmanUK posted:I wouldnt skip any of them either. I did read them in order, as they came out (only COM and LF were out when I started) so I do have a soft spot for his earlier work. Same here. What's up, geezer buddy. That said, I'm having a hard time reconciling people in this subforum, who read things I would consider "completely irredeemable poo poo" (see: every series aside from this one that has more than a hundred posts in it), telling people not to read the first few Disc books, which one could easily read in a couple hours each. Kids these days!
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AXE COP posted:The first four are very very different from the rest of his work. They're not as good as the rest of the series, but they're not in any way bad books. I'd start at the beginning too. Or even just read Guards! Guards! or Wyrd Sisters or Pyramids and then go back to the start. I read my first few Discworld novels in random order, starting with Witches Abroad, then Soul Music. It wasn't the best way to do it, but I was 12.
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Mister Roboto posted:You must honestly admit that your view (which started 30 years ago) would be completely different than a new reader with their modern expectations, right? I am a new reader and found them light amusing reads.
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Mister Roboto posted:You really think Color of Magic, Light Fantastic, Equal Rites and Sourcery are that good? I would never start a new reader on those--they're less cohesive stories and just random fantasy parody event-after-event. And not too funny, to boot... I don't know why exactly,1 but I really, really like the first two novels (COM and LF). 'Equal Rites' - ok, I don't remember too much about the quality of the story/the book (but play Iron Maiden - 'Seventh Son of a Seventh Son' in the background during reading - it's awesome). But the fourth book is already 'Mort' and that is still one of my favorites of the Discworld novels. I have to admit that, when starting to read the novels (20 years ago), I preferred the stories with the wizards and DEATH over the guard stories (and especially the witches stories) - nowadays that has changed, 'Nightwatch' is one of my favorite books (of all books, not only Discworld novels and I re-read it probably over 15 times), with 'Going Postal' the second. But taste is personal and if somebody wants to skip some books and read them later - no problem. 1 But probably because the books are funny satires of classic and traditional fantasy topics - and I like Rincewind.
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rejutka posted:...I have been reading Terry Pratchett books for over twenty years, when the gently caress did that happen? I remember Equal Rites coming out and thinking "Wow, a new Discworld book!" Think how I feel. (Hint: old.)
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Mister Roboto posted:You must honestly admit that your view (which started 30 years ago) would be completely different than a new reader with their modern expectations, right? Ill admit that yes but they are no means bad books and I just cant imagine anyone liking discworld but not knowing about the adventures of Rincewind, Twoflower and the luggage!
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I certainly stand by my opinion that Mort is easily in the top 10 Disc novels and I don't think nostalgia has anything to do with it. Pyramids is another early but great one.
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Jun 28, 2012 14:30
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I'm part of the 'they might not have his kick in the developed later ones, but I still enjoy Mort and Sourcery dangit!' gang too.
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Yay, my books arrived! I've already read Making Money by chance, but I'm rereading it anyway. Every scene in every book where Vetinari manipulates someone into doing something for him is just great.
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The_Doctor posted:Ah, DWCon. I haven't been in a long time At first, looking at your avatar, I thought this was Doctor Who Con. Then I saw the thread title and realized which universe I was in.
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precision posted:I certainly stand by my opinion that Mort is easily in the top 10 Disc novels and I don't think nostalgia has anything to do with it. Pyramids is another early but great one. Mort is fantastic; I can't think of anything I don't like about it. Pyramids is one of my favorites... for the first half, then it kind of looses its way. The best is Small Gods and Soul Music was the first I read; then I read randomly untill I cought up with the publishing arround Maskerade.
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Dirty Frank posted:Pyramids is one of my favorites... for the first half, then it kind of looses its way. Now that I think on it, yeah, this is totally true. The stuff with the Assassin's Guild is absolutely amazing, but then things get a bit... weird. Not necessarily bad, just... squiffy. Holy poo poo Firefox knows that "squiffy" is a real word!
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I got to agree Pyramids did wonder a little in the middle of the book, but it tightened up nicely towards the end.
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I really liked Pyramids. Especially towards the end. The middle does get a bit off course, but when the dead kings start coming back and complaining I still get chills.
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This is all very subjective. Sourcery was my first Discworld book and I loved it, then read Moving Pictures, followed by Colour of Magic and Light Fantastic which I also loved, and was hooked from that point onwards. This would have been around 15-20 years ago. My girlfriend, after failing to click with Discworld multiple times, really enjoyed Equal Rites when I randomly tried her on it, and now loves the series. I guess that owed a lot to the fact that she really liked Esk (I think she really identified with her as a girl trying to make her way in a male dominated field, she is doing a Physics degree), but my point is that what one person might deem skippable, could be the perfect introduction to someone else. chippy fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jun 29, 2012 |
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AlphaDog posted:I really liked Pyramids. Especially towards the end. The middle does get a bit off course, but when the dead kings start coming back and complaining I still get chills. "Handcuffed to the bed, the aunt thirsted."
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