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Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
e: An official trailer for FF7 PC that you've probably seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UwO1xgiOUE

Pay no attention to the dumb in the spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MhEm5fYPmo

fe: for some reason my website is down/absurdly slow. The picture isn't showing up, but in the second video, Tifa calls her Aerith.

Ugato fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jul 5, 2012

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Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Ugato posted:

fe: for some reason my website is down/absurdly slow. The picture isn't showing up, but in the second video, Tifa calls her Aerith.

You do realise that you can change the names in FFVII, right?

[e]: Unless they've changed the default name to Aerith or something.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jul 5, 2012

Happy Blue Cow
Oct 23, 2008

I have moooore respect for
Mr. Carpainter then others. Even if I become someone's steak dinner, I'll still respect him.

In a very not at all surprising fashion, Motomu Toriyama hints at a new Final Fantasy XIII in Ultimania Omega

quote:

http://www.novacrystallis.com/?p=3027

The Final Fantasy XIII-2 Ultimania Omega has made it out into the wild, and with that comes the usual bits of information contained within.

In addition to a collection of artworks from the game, including rough character sketches of Lightning, Hope, Serah and Caius by Tetsuya Nomura, the guide also features a brief interview with staff members Yoshinori Kitase and Motomu Toriyama.

The most interesting bits come from questions regarding the recent Lightning episode DLC, which includes perhaps a bit of insight into Toriyama’s next project. “Like Lightning advancing one step forward in the secret event, I think we want to take a step forward to advance our own project. From now on, I’d be happy if you could anticipate it.”

Does this mean Final Fantasy XIII-3 is truly in the works? Toriyama did recently mention he would be working on a new project soon after XIII-2′s completion… and with XIII-2 not exactly “concluded” I suppose we’ll find out in due time.

Another bit from the guide translated by Gematsu reads:

Kitase: (The last part about Lightning’s DLC Episode) Explaining “XXX Years Later” would be pointless. It might seem that the line “To Be Continued…” means that Lightning’s chapter will continue in more download content, but we are doing it in a different interpretation.

Toriyama: With Lightning remaining in the 〇〇〇〇ル (crystal?) but still keeping her heart, you could say that the world of Final Fantasy XIII will be permanently 〇〇ed. I’m praying for the day to come that Lightning will surely 〇〇めて (wake up?) and Serah will be rewarded.

quote:

http://squareportal.net/2012/07/05/the-announcement-of-final-fantasy-xiii-3-is-happening-soon

The Announcement of Final Fantasy XIII-3 Is Happening Soon?

According to the Famitsu interview when they asked “Is there something Final Fantasy XIII related in the works at the moment?” Motomu Toriyama has commented that we may soon discover the meaning behind the secret ending of Lightning DLC which was released in last May.

In few interviews Kitase has commented that they want development cycles like Call of Duty series. Also a lot of original Final Fantasy XIII staff wasn’t credited for Final Fantasy XIII-2. This makes us wonder: Has another team been working on XIII-3 when other has been doing XIII-2?


Maybe we'll hear something more at TGS?

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
"Call of Final Fantasy XIII-3 - The writing gets no better."

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

It really can't get worse than The Adventures of PARADOX: Paradox Paradox Paradox.

Unless they start bringing in Parasite Eve 3 bullshit.

Slashkun
Sep 19, 2011
http://androidandme.com/2012/07/games/final-fantasy-iii-gets-an-english-translation-hits-google-play-for-15-99/

FF III is now released on android!

Just posting to inform you FF guys and wondering if anyone has tried it yet?

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Minrad posted:

The Prologue theme? That was an FF4 song before it got redone for 12's main menu for some reason. (Edit: Ah, that was Nobuo's contribution to the soundtrack. It was the only song he did for 12)

Most of 12's soundtrack was done by Sakimoto and Iwata, who also worked on FFT, so the soundtracks are very similar.

The Prologue Theme is also known as the main Final Fantasy theme and it appears in almost every game, but usually at the end, although sometimes it's near the beginning - it was at the beginning of I, III, and IV, and then they decided to start using it as ending music until they put it in the beginning of XII and XIV. I think II and X are the only numbered games lacking it. Not sure about XIII. It's not as well known as the prelude, Chocobo or victory fanfare music though as it generally shows up in the end credits.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Gammatron 64 posted:

I think II and X are the only numbered games lacking it. Not sure about XIII. It's not as well known as the prelude, Chocobo or victory fanfare music though as it generally shows up in the end credits.

It's not in XIII either, nor is the Prelude, though that shows up in FFXIII-2. The only recurring tune XIII uses is the Chocobo theme.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Slashkun posted:

http://androidandme.com/2012/07/games/final-fantasy-iii-gets-an-english-translation-hits-google-play-for-15-99/

FF III is now released on android!

Just posting to inform you FF guys and wondering if anyone has tried it yet?

Yeah, I posted about it in the Android Gaming thread, but 15.99 is a really steep price for what I've already bought once and still play. :(

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Yeah, I would probably buy a couple Final Fantasy iOS games, but I think they are absurdly overpriced. SE's games seem like they are literally the most expensive games on the entire apple store. I haven't seen any other $15 iPhone games other than FFIII and Tactics.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Pesky Splinter posted:

You do realise that you can change the names in FFVII, right?

[e]: Unless they've changed the default name to Aerith or something.

Oh I see what you're getting at now. Sorry, I was thinking that was an official clip for some reason. That's what I get for posting quickly on 3 hours' sleep. :downs: No, there's no reason to believe they changed her name. That was just a randomly linked video in the article for nostalgia's sake.

Ugato fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jul 5, 2012

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
They should just make XIII sequels from now on and then when they get to XIII-14 start going backwards through the catalogue and doing the same thing with every other game. That is their hundred year plan.

Hopefully I will live to see Final Fantasy II-8.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

I hope XIII-3 busts out some new antagonists and conflicts that have nothing to do with the previous games except maybe one instance of absurdly vague wording from an obscure datalog entry that could be interpreted as foreshadowing by idiots.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
It'll be a little blurb in the datalog:

"And after the epic duel - a clash that would reverberate through out the ages - a bitter standoff, which would shake the very foundations of the Pulse itself - Caius said, 'I have to go now, my timeline needs me.'"

Note: Caius died on the way back to his home timeline.

zonar
Jan 4, 2012

That was a BAD business decision!

Level Slide posted:

I hope XIII-3 busts out some new antagonists and conflicts that have nothing to do with the previous games except maybe one instance of absurdly vague wording from an obscure datalog entry that could be interpreted as foreshadowing by idiots.
Apparently, some people think that XIII-3 will involve the Thirteenth Ark based on its two-second appearance in XIII-2 and something from the Datalog. Here's hoping you're right about this.

TGS is in September, right? Not too long to wait to see what their next money-making scheme is.

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?
Didn't they take the ark's power source though?

Tempo 119
Apr 17, 2006

Allan Assiduity posted:

Apparently, some people think that XIII-3 will involve the Thirteenth Ark based on its two-second appearance in XIII-2 and something from the Datalog. Here's hoping you're right about this.

People in that one area in 13-2 kept saying "look it's the 13th ark!" and I could never figure out what the gently caress they were talking about, so it'll be nice to see that thread picked up. I can't wait to climb aboard that thing and play a rehash of literally the most boring dungeon in either game.

keet
Aug 20, 2005

Level Slide posted:

I hope XIII-3 busts out some new antagonists and conflicts that have nothing to do with the previous games except maybe one instance of absurdly vague wording from an obscure datalog entry that could be interpreted as foreshadowing by idiots.

I wouldn't mind if it's some Kingdom Hearts/God of War mashup where Lighting kills the Final Fantasy 13's Pantheon in ~fabulous~ fashion like we thought 13-2 was gonna be. I'd make a smarmy joke that the third will invariably poo poo up Lightning the way it happened to Aya Brea, but Square has been weirdly good about that. I got tons of issues with the sort of character Light is, but I'm very glad she exists and is popular in the fandom because it might make creators more receptive to including less (traditionally) cliche characters in other games.

Also I may not be remembering my playthrough correctly, or have been softened by the fandom for it, but was Vanille really a terrible character in regards to the *plot* or more she was terrible in execution by the designers? I don't really remember much about her besides being the designated cute one and being ambigiouslyBFF with Fang.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

penguinmambo posted:

I wouldn't mind if it's some Kingdom Hearts/God of War mashup where Lighting kills the Final Fantasy 13's Pantheon in ~fabulous~ fashion like we thought 13-2 was gonna be. I'd make a smarmy joke that the third will invariably poo poo up Lightning the way it happened to Aya Brea, but Square has been weirdly good about that. I got tons of issues with the sort of character Light is, but I'm very glad she exists and is popular in the fandom because it might make creators more receptive to including less (traditionally) cliche characters in other games.

Also I may not be remembering my playthrough correctly, or have been softened by the fandom for it, but was Vanille really a terrible character in regards to the *plot* or more she was terrible in execution by the designers? I don't really remember much about her besides being the designated cute one and being ambigiouslyBFF with Fang.

Vanille could have been interesting. They do some interesting things with foreshadowing with her, and the fact that she is the only one in the know about what is going on and hiding it out of shame could be interesting but... they never really do anything meaningful with it. She lies, people suffer, and it never really comes to anything.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
She was like 2/3 of a meaningful character, with the last third taken by Fang. If they wrote her out of the game and gave almost everything to Vanille, it would've been much better.

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?

Momomo posted:

She was like 2/3 of a meaningful character, with the last third taken by Fang. If they wrote her out of the game and gave almost everything to Vanille, it would've been much better.

Obviously false because fang owns.

heartcatcher
Oct 6, 2007

:patriot: woof :patriot:

Winks posted:

Obviously false because fang owns.

Well it probably works in reverse too. Take the important stuff out of Vanille's character and give it to Fang, either way's fine.

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?

glod posted:

Well it probably works in reverse too. Take the important stuff out of Vanille's character and give it to Fang, either way's fine.

The tension between Fang and Vanille is pretty important though and you can't have that without the two characters. Fang is willing to sacrifice everything and anything for the sake of Vanille even if Vanille doesn't want her too and Vanille is unwilling to sacrifice others for the sake of herself or Fang.

Having watched the entire set of cinematics over again a month or two ago, I'm okay with Vanille's character, but her design and voice are not okay.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

penguinmambo posted:

I wouldn't mind if it's some Kingdom Hearts/God of War mashup where Lighting kills the Final Fantasy 13's Pantheon in ~fabulous~ fashion like we thought 13-2 was gonna be. I'd make a smarmy joke that the third will invariably poo poo up Lightning the way it happened to Aya Brea, but Square has been weirdly good about that. I got tons of issues with the sort of character Light is, but I'm very glad she exists and is popular in the fandom because it might make creators more receptive to including less (traditionally) cliche characters in other games.

FFXIII-3rd Birthday?

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I liked everything about Vanille. In fact, I liked the entire playable cast except Lightning and Feng. Light because she was a one-note bitch for so long that by the time she developed I had stopped caring. And Feng because...well, no real reason. She just didn't interest me.

Vanille was good because she had excellent dynamic with the rest of the cast. The section with her and Sazh was very enjoyable. It's also notable because the scene where Sazh confronts her is the only time when an eidolon appearing made loving sense. Every other time had the most ridiculously forced angsting.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

Tempo 119 posted:

People in that one area in 13-2 kept saying "look it's the 13th ark!" and I could never figure out what the gently caress they were talking about, so it'll be nice to see that thread picked up. I can't wait to climb aboard that thing and play a rehash of literally the most boring dungeon in either game.

I would be excited for XIII-3 if they involve Bhunibelze and Lindzei and such since it's hinted that the former would awaken which would require the latter's presence.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Berk Berkly posted:

A pay-for-cheats system in a single player PC game you say? :allears:

This is a low effort cash grab by the suits. Pretty disappointing even with a minimum of build up and no lack of cynicism already.

I can see why buying power-ups/cheats exists in some games, like Record of Agarest War Cross Edge any game Idea Factory has been involved in creating.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Just get to work on FF15 already, SE. I know you've sunk a lot of money on FF13 and have to recoup your losses by rehashing the same engine under the supposed idea that you're creating this vast intricate story of interdimensional casinos and throwing Moogles off cliffs, but Final Fantasy XIII-3 isn't exactly the game people are clamoring for.

If you're that desperate for money, you could always remake FF4 again for the Wii U. The main screen could be fancy 3D while the tablet screen would have the original 2D sprite graphics.

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?
I'm pretty sure XIII and XIII-2 were financial successes.

It doesn't make sense for them to release XV on this console generation and XIII's engine though. A XIII-3 makes sense financially for them and they just happened to set it up for a sequel.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Winks posted:

I'm pretty sure XIII and XIII-2 were financial successes.

It doesn't make sense for them to release XV on this console generation and XIII's engine though. A XIII-3 makes sense financially for them and they just happened to set it up for a sequel.

I agree, XIII's long development time and XIV being online (not to mention its botched launch) pretty much assured that XV is going to be next generation. Especially with the announcement of the 720 and PS4 likely to be made within the next year. XIII-3 is the perfect way to get a little more revenue out of this generation before people start seriously thinking about the new consoles.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



If we're wishing, then can we have a FFV prequel that follows the fight against Exdeath the first time with Dorgan, Xezat, Galuf, and Kelgar? Please?

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Kyrosiris posted:

If we're wishing, then can we have a FFV prequel that follows the fight against Exdeath the first time with Dorgan, Xezat, Galuf, and Kelgar? Please?

Yeah, and then maybe they'll give us the original War of the Magi from VI, or the Adventures of Laguna from VIII, or Braska's Pilgrimage from X, or the Story of Zack Fair from VII, or two installments of the stupid adventures that nobody cared about after FFIV- wait, scratch those last two.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Schwartzcough posted:

Yeah, and then maybe they'll give us the original War of the Magi from VI, or the Adventures of Laguna from VIII, or Braska's Pilgrimage from X, or the Story of Zack Fair from VII, or two installments of the stupid adventures that nobody cared about after FFIV- wait, scratch those last two.

Hahaha.

Yeah, a lot of those are possibly pretty cool in concept, but the truth is, SE doesn't currently employ anyone nearing the actually pretty low level of competence required to make them enjoyable games.

Death By Yogurt
Apr 3, 2007

Winks posted:

I'm pretty sure XIII and XIII-2 were financial successes.

It doesn't make sense for them to release XV on this console generation and XIII's engine though. A XIII-3 makes sense financially for them and they just happened to set it up for a sequel.

Yeah, they both made Square Enix a lot of money. The only concern going into XIII-3 is that XIII-2's sales dropped significantly despite its better critical reception (1.96 million sales as opposed to 4.83 million according to vgchartz.com). Something else to be said is that this series is in a way an experiment for the Final Fantasy franchise with its quicker release dates and DLC and such.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Kinda weird to hear that 13-2 was a big financial success, given that it's already $20 at Best Buy (which is why I just picked it up).

I guess it was a lot cheaper to make, though.

EDIT: My brick and mortar store; it's still $40 online and like $25 at Amazon I guess. Maybe worth checking into if you've got one on your commute or were planning on buying a TV this week or something!

Baku fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jul 6, 2012

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Schwartzcough posted:

Yeah, and then maybe they'll give us the original War of the Magi from VI, or the Adventures of Laguna from VIII, or Braska's Pilgrimage from X, or the Story of Zack Fair from VII, or two installments of the stupid adventures that nobody cared about after FFIV- wait, scratch those last two.

Personally I couldn't care less about Zack and I don't know why they made CC. What I always wanted was a prequel about the original war with Jenova. It would star a party of Cetra as they futilely try to stop the abomination as it kills the rest of their race over the course of the game. Finally the heroes defeat and seal Jenova. Then you could even have a nice epilogue flash of Gast and Hojo finding the sealed jenova.

keet
Aug 20, 2005

NikkolasKing posted:

Personally I couldn't care less about Zack and I don't know why they made CC. What I always wanted was a prequel about the original war with Jenova. It would star a party of Cetra as they futilely try to stop the abomination as it kills the rest of their race over the course of the game. Finally the heroes defeat and seal Jenova. Then you could even have a nice epilogue flash of Gast and Hojo finding the sealed jenova.

Making CC lets them retread old ground and involve a Cloud and Sephiroth feel-alike and some painful Nomura OC characters, though it's a happy accident it's well recieved. None of them really give a drat about building up the FF7 universe (the more-than-likely :effort: PC rerelease of the game to me is a sign they don't really care about the game per se anymore) in the sense of the world rather than the handful of characters and the star power they have.

Hell, I still think Midgar, even in its unspecific smashed-up version (how many people are displaced? How smashed up are what parts? What effect would all that lifestream sloshing around have? etc.) itself could be a great setting for an entire game. As for characters, you got plenty, including one who is a canonical treasure hunter.

Isn't it suggested to be one of the largest "normal" cities in the franchise? At least Ivalice is pretty cool, but I'm still boggled anyone gives a poo poo about FF13's setting the way Square seems to think the place has easy appeal.

keet fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jul 6, 2012

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

penguinmambo posted:

Isn't it suggested to be one of the largest "normal" cities in the franchise? At least Ivalice is pretty cool, but I'm still boggled anyone gives a poo poo about FF13's setting the way Square seems to think the place has easy appeal.

Well I guess that's the thing: as much as I hate FF13, it's absolutely true that it has an easy appeal in the sense that a five-year-old can enjoy it the exact same as a fifty-year-old can enjoy it because it has these pretty visuals with way too much bloom. I swear, that poo poo is like the '10s version of the lens flare.

As a storytelling setting? Hahaha. Anything that requires you to read more than, say, five to ten NPC boxes of flavor to engage you or for you to sufficiently enjoy it or tell you everything meaningful you need to know about a place is an absolute failure. It's supposed to be a fusion of visual and descriptive elements, not LOOK AT MY LEVEL DESIGN and a college essay about what this place is supposed to be.

Midgar's a great example of it. Visually, you already know it's a shithole and how squalid the conditions its residents live in are. The attitude of the NPCs and the dialogue in the story bits just reinforces everything you already know.

Compare to FF13: "OH MY GOD GUYS PULSE IS A HELL ON EARTH"
*sweeping breathtaking this-it-totally-not-the-Calm-Lands, guys*
"HELL
ON
EARTH"
*fifty encyclopedia entries*
xXx~*~fabula nova crystallis~*~xXx

Fur20 fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jul 6, 2012

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



I'd like to have a game that takes place solely in Lindblum. While I'm not a huge, huge fan of FF9, I have a major fondness for sprawling Medieval/Steam age cities. Plus Lindblum looked really neat, too.

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Vanderdeath posted:

I'd like to have a game that takes place solely in Lindblum. While I'm not a huge, huge fan of FF9, I have a major fondness for sprawling Medieval/Steam age cities. Plus Lindblum looked really neat, too.

I always thought it was a bit annoying you never get to visit that one area of Lindblum after your first visit.(was it the Industrial section?) Upon your return to Lindblum, that entire section was sucked up by Atomos and gone forever.

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