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MourningView posted:Erin Andrews is good at her job and generally handles all the gross poo poo she has to deal with really well. I will never understand all the weird vitriol she generates. Is she supposed to be ashamed of being pretty or what? Decent women do their ironing with their clothes on, man.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 16:31 |
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 16:34 |
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Glad there's a "feet" in there to break things up.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 16:44 |
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quote:The Erin Andrews Effect, as sports media phenomena, is attracting more female communications majors into taking as many shortcuts as possible to grab a coveted sideline reporting job or studio host instead of risking the time and challenge necessary to try play-by-play, game analyst, or even what's still referred to journalism at a magazine, newspaper or website. What the gently caress does this even mean? What "shortcuts" are available? Is he trying to suggest Erin Andrews flirted/slept her way to where she is without actually saying it? Somebody better go tell Craig Sager to stop slutting it up on the sidelines and leave the camera work to the real journalists.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 16:49 |
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I don't think there can be any doubt that that is exactly what is being insinuated by the word "shortcut." Even if there were any valid point to be made about female journalists "using shortcuts," the only place you can go with that without being a reprehensible misogynist is "gee, it would be nice if society stopped making women feel like being a sex symbol is more appropriate to strive toward as a woman than being well educated." Blaming a woman for the objectification of women is just mindbogglingly offensive.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 17:21 |
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Quasimango posted:Some may hate this, but I think it's awesome: Holy poo poo. I love stuff like this because it puts fanaticism in its proper place.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 17:38 |
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MourningView posted:Erin Andrews is good at her job and generally handles all the gross poo poo she has to deal with really well. I will never understand all the weird vitriol she generates. Is she supposed to be ashamed of being pretty or what? Yes, pretty much. Lest you think this is just misogyny, the Washington Post's Christine Brennan wrote a column after the whole peephole thing to say that Erin Andrews was asking for it and encouraging someone to do that by being a sex symbol, despite Andrews never trying to actively be a sex symbol. What a fun media climate we live in.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 20:37 |
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The guy who wrote the Erin Andrews piece says at the website that he welcomes e-mail and his address is listed right there on the L.A. Daily News site, so feel free to drop a line to thomas.hoffarth@dailynews.com and tell him just how amazing that piece was.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 20:55 |
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Crazy Ted posted:
this is the worst loving thing I've ever seen
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:08 |
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AsInHowe posted:Lest you think this is just misogyny, the Washington Post's Christine Brennan wrote a column after the whole peephole thing to say that Erin Andrews was asking for it and encouraging someone to do that by being a sex symbol, despite Andrews never trying to actively be a sex symbol. Christine Brennan is really obsessed with the idea role models and I hate her figure skating coverage. Just felt like mentioning that.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:11 |
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stuart scott irl posted:this is the worst loving thing I've ever seen
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:11 |
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If I were a successful, high-profile woman in the media and regularly subject to things like fellow women stating publicly that I was "asking for" my sexual privacy to be invaded and impotent men raging about my audacity in Being Pretty And Talking About They're Spoarts, there's a good chance I would rather "play dumb" than engage the issue fully too. NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO DEGRADE YOU, BUT WE DEMAND YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE DEGRADING YOU INSTEAD OF PLAYING DUMB LIKE A DUMB DITZY WOMAN
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:17 |
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Rick Reilly Columns Increasingly Laden With Cries For Help
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:21 |
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stuart scott irl posted:this is the worst loving thing I've ever seen I hate TMZ so much, it's like a giant bitchy cat EDIT: Nothing says great journalism quite like pictures of someone who is visibly irritated that you're taking pictures of them AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jul 8, 2012 |
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AsInHowe posted:Yes, pretty much. An easy fix for most of these problems would just be putting burkas on everybody.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:38 |
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General Dog posted:An easy fix for most of these problems would just be putting burkas on everybody. No article of clothing is going to fix a society that continues to value women primarily as sex objects.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:45 |
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stuart scott irl posted:this is the worst loving thing I've ever seen I thought the series of dumb words that Tom Hoffarth wrote would be the worst part about today but wowww
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:48 |
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General Dog posted:An easy fix for most of these problems would just be putting burkas on everybody. ...says the Aggie fan.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 21:59 |
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General Dog posted:An easy fix for most of these problems would just be putting burkas on everybody. This was a joke, by the way. I know it's hard to tell sometimes.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 22:06 |
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General Dog posted:This was a joke, by the way. I know it's hard to tell sometimes. There are no aggy jokes, only aggy stories. But seriously, Tom Hoffarth really did some terrible work today, that amazingly was syndicated around the country.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 22:14 |
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I just browsed it, but every word I read was terrible. How dare this attractive woman be successful. The comments below commending his "courage" are equally soul-crushing. I think a Fire Joe Morgan reunion is called for. Edit: just loving look at this "Faith" posted:An extremely harsh (and poorly edited) critique of Erin Andrews, but bravo for having the guts to say some things that are very true but others are afraid to vocalize. Crazy how these people whose job it is to stand in front of a camera always "happen" to be in front of a camera. General Dog fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 8, 2012 |
# ? Jul 8, 2012 22:24 |
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She sure doesn't seem to be wearing out her loving welcome with the mongoloids googling voyeuristic videos of her alone in a hotel room
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 22:33 |
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If you're an attractive woman on television, you've implicitly accepted lifelong status as a sex symbol and a slut. Whether you're taking 3 dicks at once or getting Dabo Swinney's halftime reactions- it's all the same thing.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 22:48 |
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You might be thinking, after that masterstroke of a column, that Tom Hoffarth is done on the topic. gently caress NO. Tom Hoffarth goes on to write another snarky blog post (http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/archives/2012/07/weekly-media-co-31.html), with these true journalism gems: - This photo of his paper's layout, with this comment attached: "Look how we're going to get readers to actually pick up a newspaper today. Sorry about that if we caught you off guard." - Taking random shots at anyone who criticizes him! "With the power vested in me, I'll try to drive knee-jerk traffic to something called SportsGrid.com, where a "rising college senior" named Matt thinks I'm unfair (linked here). He makes some fair points. Says some of the things I point out is "fine." He's done a fine job himself here. But I'd respectfully debate after I looked up big words like 'ad-hominem.'" Clearly, Tom Hoffarth is quite the wordsmith! But that can be discussed later, after his crafting of the next headline. Of course, his next post really gets to the heart of Erin Andrews being a terrible journalist, by being an attractive woman. Here's the actual post, the contents (and headline) of which are not an added-on joke: quote:Ain't it a bitch: Fox Sports could have a real Miss America land in its lap, clawing for EA's job Truly breathtaking levels of sexism. Hard to believe it took him three pieces to call pretty women bitches, indirectly.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 23:01 |
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stuart scott irl posted:this is the worst loving thing I've ever seen I couldn't make it all the way through. I miss the days before TMZ existed when paparazzi was only loving awful instead of...this.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 23:26 |
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21st Century Fox is a pretty epic headline though, kudos to whoever wrote that.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 00:22 |
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Good lordTom Hoffarth posted:And here's one from this morning by a BigLead gentleman (linked here) who insists I missed the point. Thanks, Ty. Glad to give you someone's honor to defend. and again posted:The reviews have interestingly been pretty split — and my Twitter followers have grown exponentially, which to me proves the point. Any time you mention Erin Andrews in a sentence, it’s internet gold. I purposely posted pictures and items on her in the past to see how those so-called hits would increase, and it never fails. Some Genius on SportsGrid posted:I don't think the article was unfair at all. Rather, this article criticizing the original article is unfair...example...'She was the victim of an incident involving a dude who planted a camera in the peephole of her hotel room door. There’s no need to act like this should be counted against her.' Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jul 9, 2012 |
# ? Jul 9, 2012 00:40 |
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Erin Andrews going to FOX is funny because she a videotaped secretly in a hotel room and FOX in England was busted for tapping into people's phones:quote:With former Uber-sideline reporter Erin Andrews moving to FOX Sports, once more we are reminded just how swarthy and essentially incestuous a place the Internet is. The basics, for those of you new to this breaking story, a once famous and now considerably less famous side-line reporter has left a big sports website to move to a smaller sports website. That’s it really. From the wild reaction on the Internet, you would think Bryce Harper just stormed in on a Phillies post-game press conference wearing a Hells Angels tank-top, smacked Cole Hamels in the back of the head with a baseball bat, renounced Mormonism and snogged a female reporter on the way out in triumph.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 00:50 |
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Crazy Ted posted:Good lord This is the media equivalent of "TRAP SPRUNG. Heh. Guys?"
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 01:06 |
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Perhaps one of the reasons beautiful, knowledgeable women do not want to become "sports journalists" is that their every move seemingly places them in the cross-hairs of sanctimonious, insolent blowhards like Tom Hoffarth not to mention male sports fans in general
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 01:07 |
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Ow, Lynn Hoppes.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 16:57 |
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For anyone familiar with WFAN, this is a great Grantland piece on their history, as they just celebrated their 25th anniversary. It's complete with interviews from Chris Russo, Howie Rose and Steve Somers, among many others: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8016912/don-imus-mike-mad-dog-fall-rise-first-all-sports-talk-station-wfan
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Vertical Lime posted:For anyone familiar with WFAN, this is a great Grantland piece on their history, as they just celebrated their 25th anniversary. It's complete with interviews from Chris Russo, Howie Rose and Steve Somers, among many others: Great article.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 18:05 |
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The entirety of Sports Illustrated from this past week is worth reading. It's the "Where Are They Now" issue, only with some actually good stories. Gary Smith wrote a huge rear end piece on athletes in political activism today vs. yesterday; one guy wrote an interesting story (that kind of wanders off point, but is still good) about an Auschwitz survivor who became a world-class weightlifter and Olympian only 11 years later and is still alive today. I've only read the Auschwitz survivor one and the one on Earl Campbell, which was also kinda jarring, but it's been the best writing I've seen from SI in a while. As an addendum, I don't know who it is, but there's someone at Sports Illustrated who is doing the shittiest editing by shoehorning in lame cultural references and extending awful metaphors and ending stories with the worst goddamn bookends. It happened again this week on that story of the Auschwitz survivor where the writer says the man is living his life in reverse just like Ben Button. You're writing a timeless piece on survival and the redemption of humanity in one of its worst times, but you had to put in a cultural reference to a movie that came out three years ago.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 18:16 |
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The broken bones posted:The entirety of Sports Illustrated from this past week is worth reading. It's the "Where Are They Now" issue, only with some actually good stories. Gary Smith wrote a huge rear end piece on athletes in political activism today vs. yesterday; one guy wrote an interesting story (that kind of wanders off point, but is still good) about an Auschwitz survivor who became a world-class weightlifter and Olympian only 11 years later and is still alive today. I've only read the Auschwitz survivor one and the one on Earl Campbell, which was also kinda jarring, but it's been the best writing I've seen from SI in a while. Bill Simmons: Newest Editor-In-Chief of SI
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Vertical Lime posted:For anyone familiar with WFAN, this is a great Grantland piece on their history, as they just celebrated their 25th anniversary. It's complete with interviews from Chris Russo, Howie Rose and Steve Somers, among many others: I can't stand sports radio, but this was well done. Grantland does a really nice job with this big oral history pieces.
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The broken bones posted:
...and more people know who Merlin is than would get the Bejnamin Button reference anyway.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 18:41 |
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leokitty posted:...and more people know who Merlin is than would get the Bejnamin Button reference anyway. I'm pretty sure that Merlin only ages backwards in The Once and Future King. Ben Button is still a pretty clumsy reference, though.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 18:44 |
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I mean, it's tough coming up with deep, meaningful prose in baseball and you can kinda tell what the writer pitched in the meeting and how far it fell short of that expectation, but lovely writing is lovely writing. First time I noticed SI doing this was Mark Buerhle's perfect game story, where the writer opened and closed it with ... well, read it for yourself. story posted:By baseball standards Chicago White Sox lefthander Mark Buehrle is not superstitious, but on the days he pitches at home, he always stops at the Shell station, the one where Kingery Highway meets Interstate 55 southwest of Chicago, and buys a Rockstar energy drink. Last Thursday, Buehrle was pitching at U.S. Cellular Field against Tampa Bay, but on the way to the park that morning from his home in Lemont, Ill., he forgot about his ginseng fix and drove right past the station. Only when he was 10 minutes from the stadium did he look down at the cup holder in his BMW and notice it was empty. "Oh s---," he muttered. He texted his wife, Jamie, "Forgot my drink. I'll definitely lose today." jesus christ. That's so lame, I don't even have words for it. And what an awesome opening, too. Talking about how the day a pitcher pitched a perfect game, his morning didn't start off perfectly.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 19:45 |
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There was one other one recently about a player, I think it was a high school basketball player, playing with a congenital heart issue and the writer set it up perfectly as a symbol of playing with a broken heart or not playing with a broken heart. And then he loving spells it out in the next sentence and you're like, wait, what the hell did you do all of that legwork for??? And then the issue when the Kings won the Cup, there's a loving MONOLITHIC STORY about a 22-year-old young gun, who's fantastic on the ice and leading his team to the Cup and is being charged with rape off the ice AT THE SAME TIME and may not even play the next season. The writer (I think it was Michael Farber) did a decent job of capturing Doughty's personality on the ice through interviewing opponents--he's patient, he waits, and he knows when to attack. How great would that have been to get at least some image of Doughty off the ice to juxtapose this, even if it's only hypothetical, using both descriptions as a duality of truth and the haze in which a player rests when there's charges against him. You can even divide it into the two possible godforbid-what-ifs and just leave it dangling. This is NEVER TALKED ABOUT in pro sports and it could've opened up a huge dialogue about innocent until proven guilty or how we judge athletes before we even know the half truth of any story or how the average American fan is so skeptical of athletes in today's world. In the actual story, there's a half-sentence blurb about him maybe not playing next season and that's it. Seriously, maybe one of the greatest hockey stories of the last few years, and it's not even touched. (e: this probably falls a lot more on Farber's shoulders than it does the editors, but it's still worth noting.
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