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FPzero posted:Apparently I'm a fool in the confusion gate despite figuring out the last problem. Now I'm stuck where there appears to be a way through a wall but a warp is positioned there stopping me from continuing. I made a ladder come down using a weight but that just allows me to get back to the area I was previously. My knowledge of the original makes me remember that I'm supposed to be trying to get to the six pedestal puzzle but this warp is blocking all attempts to get to it. Am i just completely missing something? I don't think the game gives you any hints about it other than a hard-to-see visual cue so hey, here's what you do.
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Thanks for that. I'm sure there was a tablet somewhere telling me to do that but dang, I would never have tried that.
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Jul 16, 2012 01:59
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Adhesive Gamin posted:I've found his room, no idea what to do there though :/ There's nothing that you need to do or get from outside the room. I can throw a direct solution at you if you want but I feel that kind of ruins the puzzle. I also kind of wish there was a guide that went with a straight up hint route rather than directly telling people the solution.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:00
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Smash Daisaku posted:I'm stuck in a very strange spot I think. Remember the fish you beat up for the ankh? Below him is a small room underwater with a pedestal, it is a trap before you turn the water back on, but now it will open up the ankh
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Jul 16, 2012 02:07
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Has anyone done much in the chamber of birth It seems to be my only option to do anything but I'm completely stuck. There are zero paths forward and just about everything in there is "sacred" so no smashing. Here's what I've solved in it so far Serpant staff on a pedestal. I also have the womans statue and put it in a slot in the background. I've no idea how to proceed next this area has gotten the biggest revamp yet.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:11
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Control Volume posted:There's nothing that you need to do or get from outside the room. Naw I just managed to stumble into it but thanks. FPzero posted:Thanks for that. I'm sure there was a tablet somewhere telling me to do that but dang, I would never have tried that. I think the tablet that mentions searching 'on bended knee for a lost item' is supposed to be the clue for it but its really dumb and unintuitive because 'down' never has made you duck or kneel and if there were any item in the jar that you'd presumably be searching for it would show up on screen. The clue kind of goes against what the game has already taught you. But that's still somewhat reasonable, in retrospect. The invisible ladder/scannable text right before it is just out of nowhere and the tablet pretty much only makes it worse (ha ha look at this fool who doesn't know that there's an invisible ladder!) basically gently caress confusion gate argh
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Jul 16, 2012 02:22
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Underwhelmed posted:Remember the fish you beat up for the ankh? Below him is a small room underwater with a pedestal, it is a trap before you turn the water back on, but now it will open up the ankh That did it. Would you believe that I skipped it the first time I passed by because I thought it was a trap? 
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Jul 16, 2012 02:29
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Smash Daisaku posted:That did it. Would you believe that I skipped it the first time I passed by because I thought it was a trap? Really, when playing this game, you just have to bite the bullet and try everything even if it's an obvious trap (unless of course they TELL you it's an obvious trap, which they do more than once...) If you die then oh well!
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Jul 16, 2012 02:35
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In the mid/late game, what allows warping to the back area? And how do I get it? Now that almost everything for me to do is in the 2nd set of areas walking everywhere is getting really bothersome.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:41
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slayn posted:In the mid/late game, what allows warping to the back area? And how do I get it? Now that almost everything for me to do is in the 2nd set of areas walking everywhere is getting really bothersome. You need mirai.exe which you get from Graveyard of the Giants. It's not made very obvious that's what you need, except for the email that tells you that a piece of software does it.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:45
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Super Jay Mann posted:You need mirai.exe which you get from Graveyard of the Giants. ...I got that so long ago and never used it 
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Jul 16, 2012 02:52
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Super Jay Mann posted:You need mirai.exe which you get from Graveyard of the Giants. This was actually my next question. There's an obvious out of place block up by the pedestal stuck in the ice block. What do I hit it with? Everything seems to go right through it. Edit: Never mind. How fantastically unintuitive.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:53
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REALLY BIG spoiler pertaining to missable items (probably shouldn't read unless you've missed an item permanently and are kicking yourself for it): If you can find the Gate of Time (instructions in separate spoiler below), there is a fairy hidden behind a wall in the Guidance Gate portion that will RESTORE A MISSED ITEM once you have beaten Tiamat. Walk through the right wall on the middle level after entering to change screens, and then push up repeatedly as you move to enter her door. Instructions for above (don't read unless you read first spoiler and want to know how to get there): In the Chamber of Extinction, three screens right of the grail point, if you can summon a Key Fairy from the sparkles, go back to the left two screens and move past the light in the middle of the hall. She will unlock a secret door leading to the Gate of Time. So yeah, that's a big find but super spoilers so read at your own volition.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:54
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In the (late-ish game spoilers) Tower of the Goddess area, what do you need to do for the statues carrying a katana and a shield (the ones blocking the area transitions at the top right)? I have the katana and the iron shield but I haven't figured out how to trigger anything.
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Jul 16, 2012 02:59
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Another boss down! This time it's Palenque Dude is a LOT more fair than in the original (assuming you didn't just flare the original to oblivion like I'm sure all of us did). He'll still kick your rear end if you're not paying attention, but all of his attacks are slightly less dangerous and he's been slowed down to the point where you can actually anticipate and react to his poo poo. This is definitely one boss I'm glad to see they DIDN'T make harder. You still do need a zillion shurikens though. I do anticipate people will die to him at least once for reasons... Super Jay Mann fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 02:59
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Ledgem posted:Has anyone done much in the chamber of birth chamber of birth: Put maternity statue to the left of the endless fall, dragon skull to the right. I don't suppose you know how to open the first chest you run into?
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Jul 16, 2012 03:19
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Klaus Kinski posted:chamber of birth: Put maternity statue to the left of the endless fall, dragon skull to the right. I don't suppose you know how to open the first chest you run into? You also need to use the endless key on the infinity symbol in that same room. Chamber of Birth seems to be an exercise in paying attention to the background and using the items in your inventory to advance. Also lots of warps.
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Jul 16, 2012 03:26
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I just had a funny glitch happen to me in the Gate of Illusions. As I was watching the maidens spawn from their spawn point and fall down the shaft, I saw one who spawned as a bugged out bird from the surface. Its sprite was trying to fit the maiden size and was completely messed up, and it fell down the shaft, a completely bugged out bird. Was very weird. Is there really no way through the Monument of Extinction than to accept the gimmick of the zone? I think there's a Life Crystal in there that I missed, but I really am annoyed by the darkness and having to carry a bunch of flares. I just want to turn the lights on.
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Jul 16, 2012 03:28
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I'm very pissed right now. I managed to beat Ellmac and then I ended up in the Twins ... whatever it's called. So basically, I'm hosed without getting the statue right? Because right now, I'm at the end of my rope. I got the origins and birth marks, the knife, pretty much have everything for Spring in the Sky done except for the boss.
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Jul 16, 2012 03:34
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More Confusion Gate: Could someone just detailed spoil how I get to the six pedestals and/or how I get to the upper area where the grail stone is? That ladder leading there hasn't appeared yet and I think it's connected to those pedestals. I can't get to the pedestals because there's a blue light barrier in the way past the mini-doll room. I have the doll and I used it in the mausoleum already. I've pretty much exhausted all the other possible places I can go by now. Continuing up and through this area is the only direction I have left as far as I can tell.
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Jul 16, 2012 03:56
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I am completely stuck in the Confusion Gate. I got the pepper, got the anchor, and got (and used) the mini doll. Now I'm trying to make my way to the six pedestals to solve that puzzle. However, I can't find any way into that area. I'm pretty sure this is where you're supposed to enter the six pedestal area from. Am I even close, or what?
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Jul 16, 2012 03:58
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RadicalR posted:I'm very pissed right now. I managed to beat Ellmac and then I ended up in the Twins ... whatever it's called. So basically, I'm hosed without getting the statue right? Because right now, I'm at the end of my rope. I got the origins and birth marks, the knife, pretty much have everything for Spring in the Sky done except for the boss. If you've beaten Elmac then you should start going to the rear areas. If you can't, you need the Bronze Mirror, which you get in Temple of the Sun. Bigger spoilerYou need to go to Chamber of Extinction and hit the circle mirror looking block in the first room, which will open the way to the Bronze Mirror right next to that entrance. When you get that done, entrances to the rear fields should appear at certain spots. FPzero posted:More Confusion Gate: Could someone just detailed spoil how I get to the six pedestals and/or how I get to the upper area where the grail stone is? That ladder leading there hasn't appeared yet and I think it's connected to those pedestals. I can't get to the pedestals because there's a blue light barrier in the way past the mini-doll room. I have the doll and I used it in the mausoleum already. Use a weight on the skeleton where the blue light barrier is.
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Jul 16, 2012 04:00
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I don't actually have the dragon's skull yet. I actually remembered I needed to get that from a shop in the twin labrinth but in this game his shop doesn't seem to exist rather than appear after buying a fake item. Also theres no infinity symbol in the room for me, I suppose that shows up after I solve the puzzle with the dragon skull?
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Jul 16, 2012 04:01
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Ledgem posted:I don't actually have the dragon's skull yet. I actually remembered I needed to get that from a shop in the twin labrinth but in this game his shop doesn't seem to exist rather than appear after buying a fake item. Also theres no infinity symbol in the room for me, I suppose that shows up after I solve the puzzle with the dragon skull? I'm actually not sure how I triggered that shop exactly. You need to do SOMETHING in the Twin Labyrinth but outside of that the shop just sort of appeared for me after a while
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Jul 16, 2012 04:03
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Super Jay Mann posted:Use a weight on the skeleton where the blue light barrier is. Oh gently caress I remember that trick from the original now. LA-MULANA!!! 
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Jul 16, 2012 04:04
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But how do you even get to the skeleton you put the weight on in the first place? I feel as though I'm missing something completely obvious.  edit: Nevermind, I'm an idiot that couldn't see a plainly visible warp. DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 04:09
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Ledgem posted:I don't actually have the dragon's skull yet. I actually remembered I needed to get that from a shop in the twin labrinth but in this game his shop doesn't seem to exist rather than appear after buying a fake item. Also theres no infinity symbol in the room for me, I suppose that shows up after I solve the puzzle with the dragon skull? Buy some weights in Younger Brother's shop, walk out and back in, repeat until he tells you that he's revealed the other shop.
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Jul 16, 2012 04:09
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Yeah, well, I can't get into the Chamber of Extinction. I can't jump up there and I can't seem to position myself from the top (the falling in this game is RETARDED. Walk off a ledge and you fall straight down? REALLY?) And yes, I did solve the puzzle.
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Super Jay Mann posted:I'm actually not sure how I triggered that shop exactly. You need to do SOMETHING in the Twin Labyrinth but outside of that the shop just sort of appeared for me after a while Well I got it. It randomly opened for me too I haven't a clue how it worked. I've now opened a treasure chest I didn't know existed but its behind I wall I can't break so I'm still stuck in the chamber of birth. I've used every item I have everywhere and died a dozen times to lighting in this place. Theres also only a single teleporter in the entire area for me at the moment which is bizare.
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Jul 16, 2012 04:29
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In the tower of the goddess According to my map, there is a secret room in the middleish of the area. Up and to the right of the fairy location. How do I open it?
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Jul 16, 2012 04:36
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Ledgem posted:Well I got it. It randomly opened for me too I haven't a clue how it worked. I've now opened a treasure chest I didn't know existed but its behind I wall I can't break so I'm still stuck in the chamber of birth. I've used every item I have everywhere and died a dozen times to lighting in this place. Theres also only a single teleporter in the entire area for me at the moment which is bizare. The block below that chest (I'm assuming you're talking about the one in the endless pit) is breakable from the other side. You need to warp there and it's literally the only reason you're able to warp to that place at all. As for how to advance further in Chamber of Birth, there should be a phantom wall somewhere... slayn posted:In the tower of the goddess According to my map, there is a secret room in the middleish of the area. Up and to the right of the fairy location. How do I open it? You can't get there yet, but when the path does open it'll become obvious why. Smallish hint: Make note of the symbol in the room below that secret one for later
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Jul 16, 2012 04:46
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Has anyone figured out how to make specific fairies appear? It's seemed pretty random thus far. In the original it had to do with rom combinations but I haven't discovered anything like that so far.
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Jul 16, 2012 04:48
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Super Jay Mann posted:You can't get there yet, but when the path does open it'll become obvious why. Warning: You only get one chance at this puzzle so you'll have to reset if you gently caress it up. I managed to get stuck beneath the puzzle so I warped out and that apparently counts as a try, even though I didn't start it.
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FPzero posted:Has anyone figured out how to make specific fairies appear? It's seemed pretty random thus far. In the original it had to do with rom combinations but I haven't discovered anything like that so far. No you've got it right, except it's EXE combinations this time! I mentioned a trick a few pages back though, where each fairy type has a different animation for the stars that converge together. If you trigger a fairy point and then exit the room before the star animation finishes, you can trigger it again upon reentry, so you can always tell what fairy you're going to get and exit if it isn't the one you want. Klaus Kinski posted:Warning: You only get one chance at this puzzle so you'll have to reset if you gently caress it up. I managed to get stuck beneath the puzzle so I warped out and that apparently counts as a try, even though I didn't start it. Yeah the moment you read the tablet you're committed to finishing the puzzle.
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FPzero posted:Has anyone figured out how to make specific fairies appear? It's seemed pretty random thus far. In the original it had to do with rom combinations but I haven't discovered anything like that so far. edit: doh beaten
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Jul 16, 2012 04:50
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Super Jay Mann posted:The block below that chest (I'm assuming you're talking about the one in the endless pit) is breakable from the other side. You need to warp there and it's literally the only reason you're able to warp to that place at all. I swear lemeza has rubbed himself against every wall and gotten fried so much he probably smells like Roast. The only passable block is the one at the very entrance. The only teleport I have takes me to the bottom of the room where I used the serpant staff and there are blocks I can't destroy in my way from doing anything. One is room for a shuriken to pass through but I've tossed even bombs through it to no avail. Theres also a face of something on a block but its indestructible too and I scanned every mural and square inch of available space and it didn't go away. I hope my game didn't break on me after getting this far. Theres also a treasure chest a couple screens earlier I can't open either. Until I just did. Just the map though. Ledgem fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 05:34
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Ledgem posted:I swear lemeza has rubbed himself against every wall and gotten fried so much he probably smells like Roast. The only passable block is the one at the very entrance. The only teleport I have takes me to the bottom of the room where I used the serpant staff and there are blocks I can't destroy in my way from doing anything. One is room for a shuriken to pass through but I've tossed even bombs through it to no avail. Theres also a face of something on a block but its indestructible too and I scanned every mural and square inch of available space and it didn't go away. I hope my game didn't break on me after getting this far. Oh, that. You need to hit the face directly with an attack Think about what you have that can do that given how the room is laid out. That one stumped me for quite a while as well.
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Jul 16, 2012 05:48
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Super Jay Mann posted:Oh, that. I knew I'd facepalm afterwards. Thanks for the help!
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Jul 16, 2012 05:55
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E: I'm hella dumb. Anyway! I can't get any of my friends to try this game, I say "no health pickups" and they stop listening.
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