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Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Bruce Leroy posted:

I'm not really knowledgeable about rugby, so I can't really speak of injury rates or anything, but football is pretty dangerous even with all those pads and poo poo. I'd hate to see what it would be like applying the aggressiveness of modern football with the lack of safety from early football.

This should always be posted in cases like these:

quote:

[Wayne] Shelford made his Test debut for the All Blacks later that year against France in a 19–7 victory in Toulouse, and then was a notable victim of the infamous "Battle of Nantes" in the second Test. Roughly 20 minutes into the match, he was caught at the bottom of a rather aggressive ruck, and an errant French boot found its way into Shelford's groin, somehow ripping his scrotum and leaving one testicle hanging free. He also lost four teeth in the process. Incredibly, after discovering the injury to his scrotum, he calmly asked the physio to stitch up the tear and returned to the field before a blow to his head left him concussed. He was substituted and watched the remainder of the game from the grandstand where he witnessed the All Blacks lose 16–3. To this day Shelford has no memory of the game.

loving rugby man. I'm proud to have a New Zealander in the family.

Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jul 25, 2012

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AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

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Sweet motherfucking saddle-equiped baby triceratops WHY DO THEY THINK THIS IS WORTHY OF INCLUSION INTO A UNBIASD encyclopedia!!??

Conservapedia posted:

‘Feathered’ dinosaurs: no feathers after all![12]
Now that your 'feathered' dinosaurs "evidence" has flown the coop and been debunked, what are you going to do now evolutionists? By the way, humans and dinosaurs co-existed.[13] [14]

I mean do they think this is how Britannica works? Like they sit in a room and go "HA that'll show those unlearned people some knowledge!"

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
Think of it as a massive collaborative blog.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

AcidRonin posted:

Sweet motherfucking saddle-equiped baby triceratops WHY DO THEY THINK THIS IS WORTHY OF INCLUSION INTO A UNBIASD encyclopedia!!??


I mean do they think this is how Britannica works? Like they sit in a room and go "HA that'll show those unlearned people some knowledge!"

What's great is that it links to "Creation Ministries International". Obviously a site which has no actual science on it must be a good source for science info, right?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

AcidRonin posted:

Sweet motherfucking saddle-equiped baby triceratops WHY DO THEY THINK THIS IS WORTHY OF INCLUSION INTO A UNBIASD encyclopedia!!??


I mean do they think this is how Britannica works? Like they sit in a room and go "HA that'll show those unlearned people some knowledge!"

I want the smuggest encyclopedia set in the world.

"Oh, by the way shithead, World War 1 ended officially on 11 November 1918. Yea, 11-11-18, real hard to remember huh dipshit, glad you had to look it up."

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE

Glitterbomber posted:

I want the smuggest encyclopedia set in the world.

"Oh, by the way shithead, World War 1 ended officially on 11 November 1918. Yea, 11-11-18, real hard to remember huh dipshit, glad you had to look it up."

Turn to the page on something simple, for instance a map of the world?

"HA are you loving autistic or something? God your family must be really embarrassed of you. Here's your map idiot."

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

Pesky Splinter posted:

What's great is that it links to "Creation Ministries International". Obviously a site which has no actual science on it must be a good source for science info, right?

Uhm they're using the one true authoritative scientific source so of course it must be a good site.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

jojoinnit posted:

Think of it as a massive collaborative blog.
The front page is about 90% of the way to literally being Shockofgod/Conservative's blog since nearly everything on the left column is a link to the Question Evolution blog (does he run that too? I forget) or a creation.com article, and the right is getting saturated with that crap too.

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

OneEightHundred posted:

The front page is about 90% of the way to literally being Shockofgod/Conservative's blog since nearly everything on the left column is a link to the Question Evolution blog (does he run that too? I forget) or a creation.com article, and the right is getting saturated with that crap too.
Question Evolution is a Creation Ministries International thing. While Conservative is unhealthily obsessed with them (I believe they are behind the atheism is dropping report) to the point that I thought they were another sockpuppet of his, they are actually a relatively big organisation. However, "Shockofgod" supposedly heavily promotes the campaign and uses it to kill atheists, a fact which "Conservative" likes to include in his updates.

Binowru
Feb 15, 2007

I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.

kissekatt posted:

Question Evolution is a Creation Ministries International thing. While Conservative is unhealthily obsessed with them (I believe they are behind the atheism is dropping report) to the point that I thought they were another sockpuppet of his, they are actually a relatively big organisation. However, "Shockofgod" supposedly heavily promotes the campaign and uses it to kill atheists, a fact which "Conservative" likes to include in his updates.

The QE blog is written in the exact same style of Conservative's "essays," right down to the same grammatical errors, so I'd always assumed it was the same author.

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE
So this is another one from the blaze so its a tad off-topic but I think you will be interested to see this, Bill O'Reliy being REASONABLE about a gun control law and the blaze is mad at him. at billo!! These neo-cons scare me a bit....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bill-oreilly-calls-on-congress-to-pass-another-gun-law-during-heated-segment/

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

AcidRonin posted:

So this is another one from the blaze so its a tad off-topic but I think you will be interested to see this, Bill O'Reliy being REASONABLE about a gun control law and the blaze is mad at him. at billo!! These neo-cons scare me a bit....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bill-oreilly-calls-on-congress-to-pass-another-gun-law-during-heated-segment/

I guess every pundit must have a tipping point where reality starts to outweigh party dogma.

I'm sure he'll be issuing a retraction shortly.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Binowru posted:

The QE blog is written in the exact same style of Conservative's "essays," right down to the same grammatical errors, so I'd always assumed it was the same author.
Apparently the QE blog is a "fan" blog, not something written by CMI, so it probably is.

e: Oh and apparently the ones Conservative/Shockofgod keeps promoting are all written by user "15 questions for evolutionists", and are the same rambling PZ Myers-obsessed garbage.

e2: Ahahaha holy poo poo some of the comments that Mr. 15 is leaving:

http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/globally-worldviews-of-atheism-and-non.html

quote:

Next, where is your proof and evidence that global atheism is not losing market share? Where is your proof and evidence that global atheism is not shrinking in terms of its number of adherents (And please notice that I said GLOBAL atheism.) Where is your proof and evidence that global Christianity is not expanding in terms of its number of adherents?

:psyduck:

OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jul 25, 2012

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
The comments make me depressed. There are people calling bill O'Reilly a progressive Liberal.

I mean, I'll admit that O'Reilly says things I agree with more often than... Say... Glenn Beck- but talk about shifting the Overton Window. And no, I'm not talking about the latter's lovely book.

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

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Poizen Jam posted:

The comments make me depressed. There are people calling bill O'Reilly a progressive Liberal.

I mean, I'll admit that O'Reilly says things I agree with more often than... Say... Glenn Beck- but talk about shifting the Overton Window. And no, I'm not talking about the latter's lovely book.

Nice reference sir. 5 points to you. Billo always kinda seems like a more reasonable conservative pundit. Like if Keith Olberman == Glenn Beck then Billo == Rachel Maddow?

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
I think if instead of Keith Olberman, you said Bill Maher, the analogy would be perfect.

Edit: That's still giving Glenn Beck too much credit though. Despite being an outspoken douchenozzle, there's at least a kernel of truth to what Bill Maher has to say.

PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jul 25, 2012

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

AcidRonin posted:

Nice reference sir. 5 points to you. Billo always kinda seems like a more reasonable conservative pundit. Like if Keith Olberman == Glenn Beck then Billo == Rachel Maddow?

I do remember reading an interview where O'Reilly admits that most of what he does is an act, playing to his viewer base. Glenn Beck seems to genuinely believe his crazy poo poo.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

AcidRonin posted:

Nice reference sir. 5 points to you. Billo always kinda seems like a more reasonable conservative pundit. Like if Keith Olberman == Glenn Beck then Billo == Rachel Maddow?

I said it ages ago in another thread but what pretty much happened is that everyone else has gone so far off the edge of what was once the Right Wing that Bill O'Reilly, who was really the first "angry conservative pundit" who laid the groundwork for Beck et al, has become moderate in comparison. His schtick of yelling and cutting peoples mikes off for disagreeing is almost quaint now in the post Glen Beck world of Soros conspiracies.

In other words, he hasn't shifted but everyone else on his side has. Remember when we used to post YouTube vids of him being a moron? Don't those seem tame now?

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
Is it bad that O'Reilly just sounds more like an angry 'common sense' grandpa type now? Like Red Forman with a talk show?

I used to think he was scum of the earth but he's just tame now compared to his contemporaries- or even Limbaugh for that matter. Then again I've seen cracks in a few of the Fox pundits lately, as if some are realizing just far off the deep end their politics have gone.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Billo literally believes gays/atheists/Muslims conspire to fight 'American culture', his 'culture war' poo poo is entirely 100% genuine and he legitimately thinks we're destroying America by asking for civil rights and respect.

He's also stupid as poo poo, just like, super dumb. He has 'body language experts' on his show to tell us that Obama crossing his arms means he hates America or whatever, and he legitimately doesn't understands tides and thinks they can't be explained.

Also he's bffs with Laura Ingram, famous racist, homophobic, sociopath.

So yea, he's totally the right's Maddow.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




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Glitterbomber posted:

Billo literally believes gays/atheists/Muslims conspire to fight 'American culture', his 'culture war' poo poo is entirely 100% genuine and he legitimately thinks we're destroying America by asking for civil rights and respect.

He's also stupid as poo poo, just like, super dumb. He has 'body language experts' on his show to tell us that Obama crossing his arms means he hates America or whatever, and he legitimately doesn't understands tides and thinks they can't be explained.

Also he's bffs with Laura Ingram, famous racist, homophobic, sociopath.

So yea, he's totally the right's Maddow.

Has Rachel Maddow ever offered to use a falafel on someone for sexual purposes?

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE

colonelslime posted:

I do remember reading an interview where O'Reilly admits that most of what he does is an act, playing to his viewer base. Glenn Beck seems to genuinely believe his crazy poo poo.

I honestly hope that is not true, like I listen to him on the way to work (Only network that carries traffic reports on the bridge tunnel unfortunately also carries him in the morning) and I'm almost positive that there is no way that he can believe this its almost too crazy some of the stuff he says. Like all this crap about communist symbols stuck in sides of buildings in Manhattan blah blah book of Mormon blah blah conspiracies blah blah. It HAS to be a act for his listenership.

Also he never really takes a stand on any issue, he quotes crazy talking points and then goes "I DONT KNOW WHAT IF ITS TRUE WHAT IF IT ISN'T?? WHO KNOWS!!??"

EDIT:

prefect posted:

Has Rachel Maddow ever offered to use a falafel on someone for sexual purposes?
please explain this....

AcidRonin fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jul 25, 2012

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
^^^He's a washed up shock jock coke-head who's an adult convert to the LDS. It's not hard to believe he's just insane and stupid.

prefect posted:

Has Rachel Maddow ever offered to use a falafel on someone for sexual purposes?

Oh right, and he's a huge misogynist who sexually harasses people, thanks.

But yea, totally your zany grandpa aside from all that.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Glitterbomber posted:

But yea, totally your zany grandpa aside from all that.

You know, ignoring the entire latter half of my last post (and the post before it) does make it seem like I'm an apologist for O'Reilly, sure. You know, about how he only looks tame compared to his contemporaries?

Not that I think my comparison was inaccurate if you want to be pedantic; How many progressive grandpas do you know, after all? I think comparing his attitude to the bull-headed 'common sense' ignorance that is Red Forman was apropos.

Alien Arcana
Feb 14, 2012

You're related to soup, Admiral.

colonelslime posted:

Glenn Beck seems to genuinely believe his crazy poo poo.

Plastic dogshit is more genuine than Glenn Beck. This is the guy who would Vaseline up his eyes so he could cry on command.

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

Binowru posted:

The QE blog is written in the exact same style of Conservative's "essays," right down to the same grammatical errors, so I'd always assumed it was the same author.

OneEightHundred posted:

Apparently the QE blog is a "fan" blog, not something written by CMI, so it probably is.

e: Oh and apparently the ones Conservative/Shockofgod keeps promoting are all written by user "15 questions for evolutionists", and are the same rambling PZ Myers-obsessed garbage.

e2: Ahahaha holy poo poo some of the comments that Mr. 15 is leaving:

http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/globally-worldviews-of-atheism-and-non.html


:psyduck:
Ah, that explains why he is so in love with it, my initial guess was sort of right. I never bothered to look into it more after I checking that CMI was actually a real organisation, so I missed his blog.

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

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Alien Arcana posted:

Plastic dogshit is more genuine than Glenn Beck. This is the guy who would Vaseline up his eyes so he could cry on command.

Thats not all he uses Vaseline for.... "THE drat LIBS WILL NEVER FIND MY STASH OF COPIES OF THE FEDERALIST PAPERS IN HERE!!!!"

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

Alien Arcana posted:

Plastic dogshit is more genuine than Glenn Beck. This is the guy who would Vaseline up his eyes so he could cry on command.
I like how some people point to him being a faker as though that would make him less of a shitbag instead of considerably more of one.

Whatever he actually believes, there are a bunch of people who unironically agree with what he says.

Kieselguhr Kid
May 16, 2010

WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)
I think the idea behind accusing various media figures of being fakes is to imply that not only are the viewers taking idiocy for wisdom but they're also being tricked, which is a Big Deal to viewers who probably fancy themselves no-bullshit, independent, no-one's-fool, etc.

I've honestly never though it was that important. I'd also suspect anyone who did this kind of poo poo professionally and hung in these circles would, at most cynical, have a weird relationship with sincerity. I seriously doubt any of these characters actively disbelieve everything they say and drive home laughing at the audience's expense, however much people want to convince themselves of it.

AcidRonin posted:

please explain this [sexual activity via felafel]....

The entire show setup (and particularly Bill himself) was accused of making up a "sexually hostile work environment" -- sexual harassment and discrimination both by Bill and various other higher ups. Lots of the standard stuff: explicit talk about masturbation, sexual history and habits, offers to have sex, explicit phone calls (even after leaving the show), etc. Read the documents if you want to know the rest. The fact so much is quoted and Fox settled so quickly a lot of people have taken as a pretty clear sign that the woman making the charges wised up and started recording this poo poo.

The specific thing about falafels related to a story (see page 16) about Bill calling her (watching pornography; it also sounds like he was drunk) and yammering sexual fantasies and about groping her in a shower. There's a really weird line in the transcript about him taking a "falefel thing" -- there's a '[sic]' so who knows what the gently caress he was supposed to be saying -- and "put it on her pussy [...] a kind of tease business."

Kieselguhr Kid fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 25, 2012

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
He meant loofah, if memory serves.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

Pope Guilty posted:

He meant loofah, if memory serves.

Man oh man, you gotta be drunk to go from loofah to falafel.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
I thought that Loofah thing was from the Access Hollywood guy's drunkdial.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

The Dark One posted:

I thought that Loofah thing was from the Access Hollywood guy's drunkdial.

No, Pat O'Brien had all kinds of other fun ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-s36dK0yQc

Zewle
Aug 12, 2005
Delaware Defense Force Janitor

AcidRonin posted:

please explain this....

Heres an explanation in song form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxc8ZY0plM4

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


colonelslime posted:

I do remember reading an interview where O'Reilly admits that most of what he does is an act, playing to his viewer base. Glenn Beck seems to genuinely believe his crazy poo poo.

Oh, no no no no no. He's stated just the same as O'Reilly. He's an irresponsible idiot, and he doesn't believe half of what he's spouting.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2011/07/11/beck-ill-bet-you-to-80-percent-of-this-audience/160776

There's an even better interview with him where he makes it much clearer that he's putting on an act, but I can't find it now.

God, it's been so long since I've looked at Glenn Beck. I miss the old megathreads.

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

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I want all of my sexual assault complaints presented to me in opera format from now on.

"sooooo i would be rubbing your biiiiggggg boooooobbbbbs"

Also yes evidently it is Loofa.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010

Poizen Jam posted:

I think if instead of Keith Olberman, you said Bill Maher, the analogy would be perfect.

Edit: That's still giving Glenn Beck too much credit though. Despite being an outspoken douchenozzle, there's at least a kernel of truth to what Bill Maher has to say.

Sometimes he's right, but Bill Maher frequently champions terribly stupid poo poo like anti-vaccine bullshit and Big Pharma conspiracy theories. He's also painfully unfunny, but thinks he's some kind of hilarious genius and heir to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.

Poizen Jam posted:

Is it bad that O'Reilly just sounds more like an angry 'common sense' grandpa type now? Like Red Forman with a talk show?

I used to think he was scum of the earth but he's just tame now compared to his contemporaries- or even Limbaugh for that matter. Then again I've seen cracks in a few of the Fox pundits lately, as if some are realizing just far off the deep end their politics have gone.

Gretchen Carlson definitely seems like one of these people you're talking about. Shep Smith openly mocks the crazies like Beck, but you can just see how embarrassed and disturbed Carlson is sometimes, especially in the really absurd clips that make it on The Daily Show and Colbert.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Bruce Leroy posted:

Sometimes he's right, but Bill Maher frequently champions terribly stupid poo poo like anti-vaccine bullshit and Big Pharma conspiracy theories. He's also painfully unfunny, but thinks he's some kind of hilarious genius and heir to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.

He has a terrible goddamn habit of laughing during his story telling rant-jokes like he can't resist laughing at his own genius ideas.

Bruce Leroy posted:

Gretchen Carlson definitely seems like one of these people you're talking about. Shep Smith openly mocks the crazies like Beck, but you can just see how embarrassed and disturbed Carlson is sometimes, especially in the really absurd clips that make it on The Daily Show and Colbert.

I've actually not seen Gretchen Carlson. I was mostly referring to Shep Smith and the occasional times O'Reilly actually acts like a decent person. Or when Colmes actually had a backbone once in a blue moon for a fleeting moment.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Poizen Jam posted:

He has a terrible goddamn habit of laughing during his story telling rant-jokes like he can't resist laughing at his own genius ideas.
You do know that most of the jokes told on late-night comedy shows aren't written by the person telling them, right?

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AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE

OneEightHundred posted:

You do know that most of the jokes told on late-night comedy shows aren't written by the person telling them, right?

I was about to say he is probobly laghing becuase he is seeing those for the first time as he reads them. Still a funny guy though.

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