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EightBit posted:Is there a point to killing the ankh guardians? Yes, Killing bosses unlock things. Also, it's a video game. You kill bosses in video games.
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MechaBread posted:Heh. Open the exe in a hex editor. Go to 000E7BE1 and change the A4 to 00. Although, I don't think it'll help much since you still can't change direction midair. Also, you'd just be blatantly cheating at this point. :gamegenie: Actually, if you hit a wall, you can change directions. Not quite the same, but there you go.
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Jul 30, 2012 01:57
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EightBit posted:Is there a point to killing the ankh guardians?
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Jul 30, 2012 02:02
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So is the twin labyrinth's teleporter broken or something? Thankfully I saved there before I teleported away, but it would be really annoying if i had to get back there just to mess around in the area
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Jul 30, 2012 04:51
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Jul 30, 2012 04:56
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So I was talking with the Exclamation-One from NeoGAF and apparently he's got the classic music pack looping properly. It should be uploaded and available shortly.
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Jul 30, 2012 07:34
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Underwhelmed posted:Why would you do that? It's the whole point of the Hell Temple, you might as well just download a 100% save game and save yourself the time. Hey I know misery loves company and all, but no, I think I'll leave the stockholm syndrome to you good chaps.
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Jul 30, 2012 11:22
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Casull posted:Have you read every tablet yet? One tablet near the first tower makes a funny sound after you've read it. That's part 1 of how to start it; I hope you paid attention to that particular tablet. I fear I need a tad more help. I play without sound most of the time, so I've probably missed the sound cue. However, there was a pedestal near the first tower, and next to that a tablet going on about the giants bringing water to the tower, so was that it? The tablet mentioned someone pointing their finger at something, but if I recall correctly, that puzzle isn't related to this. As for Spring in the Sky, the only clues I could find were the mention of the no-longer-working aqueduct, and the attackable seals(?) in the "Goddess' jug of water" -area (Here: http://i.imgur.com/7XKv1.png ). However, I can't reach either of them, so I'm not sure if I'm just totally off here. It feels that I've missed some crucial hint, because there are a lot of potential ways to approach this, but none of them seem to work.
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Jul 30, 2012 12:53
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The bit about the giants is absolutely related to what you are doing. There is something a giant is pointing at that you need to do something with. The seals you are talking about are the right ones, you just need to work out how to reach them. double spoiler One entrance to one of the seals is in the Spring in the sky, the other in the Mausoleum
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Jul 30, 2012 13:24
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Antinumeric posted:The bit about the giants is absolutely related to what you are doing. There is something a giant is pointing at that you need to do something with. The seals you are talking about are the right ones, you just need to work out how to reach them. Thanks! I got the one in the Mausoleum. However, I have no idea where Anunnaki resides, since I assume the way to the second seal is located near something that portrays him/her, due to the "where Anunnaki refuses to look" -line. EDIT: Found him! EDIT EDIT: I destroyed the Vimana, but the Plane Model chest didn't open. What gives? Has the puzzle been changed? I feel I'm approaching the whole remake too much from the direction of the original... Hempuli fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jul 30, 2012 |
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Jul 30, 2012 14:03
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Hempuli posted:Thanks! I got the one in the Mausoleum. However, I have no idea where Anunnaki resides, since I assume the way to the second seal is located near something that portrays him/her, due to the "where Anunnaki refuses to look" -line. There is just a little more you need to do. Look around the rooms at the top of the rightmost tower for something that has changed. They made this a little different.
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Jul 30, 2012 14:47
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Antinumeric posted:There is just a little more you need to do. Look around the rooms at the top of the rightmost tower for something that has changed. They made this a little different. I can't believe I missed those. Thanks a bunch, people! Hopefully I don't have to barrage the thread with questions for a while now.
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Jul 30, 2012 15:06
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Mercury_Storm posted:Hey I know misery loves company and all, but no, I think I'll leave the stockholm syndrome to you good chaps. Hey if you don't end the game as a broken a battered shell of your former self, you didn't do it right. Shlapintogan posted:So I was talking with the Exclamation-One from NeoGAF and apparently he's got the classic music pack looping properly. It should be uploaded and available shortly. So did you guys collaborate on this or did you end up doing all that work for nothing 
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Jul 30, 2012 15:20
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Underwhelmed posted:So did you guys collaborate on this or did you end up doing all that work for nothing He hasn't got back to me with a download link, but as soon as he does, you guys will be the first to know! We collaborated on the looping bit. It's how we figured out the whole sample number looping thing that's in pack.dat. He took Nalk's classic pack, made a new banner for it, and made them loop properly. I just did the Arranged soundpack and looped it. Exclamation-One made the banner for the arranged pack as well.
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Jul 30, 2012 15:34
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Okay, I've been meandering around for the past few hours with no good idea of where to go. Bosses I've beat: Gate of Guidance snake, Sakit, Ellmac, Bahumut, Viy. I:
I'm getting intimidated by how non-linear the game is getting, but I'll be damned if Gate of Illusion isn't a work of absolutely sadistic genius. Can someone give me a general outline (e.g. "go here to get this so you can do this") of what to do next? f#a# fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jul 30, 2012 |
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Jul 30, 2012 20:05
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Final boss related: Augh I was NOT expecting to actually have to play the escape sequence this time! And then the game goes and blocks two of the three exits to the surface I can think of! Now I have to beat the Mother again and then see if I can make it to the Tower of the Goddess and see if THAT exit is blocked or not. This game, I swear. I love to hate it.
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Jul 30, 2012 20:14
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FPzero posted:Final boss related: Remember those animals you were supposed to save in the escape sequence of Super Metroid? It's something like that.
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Jul 30, 2012 20:17
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f#a# posted:[*]am at a loss in Tower of the Goddess and can't get past the bottom of the first tower Just platform your way up like everywhere else.
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Jul 30, 2012 20:31
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FPzero posted:Final boss related: I beat the end boss the first time with less than 10hp left, and thought that was it... and um yeah. The same thing happened to me. I made a wrong turn in the endless corridor and couldn't get back through it, so I had to navigate through all the traps I had just rushed past before. Needless to say I ran out of life. The second time, I figured out that I had to go back to the temple of the sun to grab somebody first just in time. I think there might be multiple exits? I haven't tried any other way yet.
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Jul 30, 2012 20:38
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I feel stupid for not figuring this out (final boss question): After phase 1 of the mother fight, when I pour the medicine on her face, she sucks me in and spits me out on the surface. I can't figure out any way to avoid this, what am I supposed to do to prevent it?
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Jul 30, 2012 23:17
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Sloop posted:I feel stupid for not figuring this out (final boss question): Do you have the right medicine? Alternately, do you have every grail point?
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Jul 30, 2012 23:20
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Never mind, I figured it out.
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Jul 30, 2012 23:24
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f#a# posted:Okay, I've been meandering around for the past few hours with no good idea of where to go. Bosses I've beat: Gate of Guidance snake, Sakit, Ellmac, Bahumut, Viy. I: Not sure if this is your issue in goddess tower but, there are ladders - they just don't look like ladders.
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Also, the anchor does exactly what you think it does - it makes you heavier, letting you past the water currents in the room you got it in.
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pumpinglemma posted:Also, the anchor does exactly what you think it does - it makes you heavier, letting you past the water currents in the room you got it in. Fun fact: that's not the only way to get through the current.
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Jul 31, 2012 03:19
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MechaBread posted:Not sure if this is your issue in goddess tower but, there are ladders - they just don't look like ladders.  Yep, that was it.
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Jul 31, 2012 03:46
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Well after slamming headfirst into Bahamut for like an hour solid I think I need to take a break. Anyone got any tips on avoiding the Fireballs? The weird motion effects are throwing me for a loop.
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Jul 31, 2012 11:46
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I think all you really get for killing Bahamut is a Sacred Orb, right? You should be able to put him off until later if he's giving you trouble. When I beat him I had the axe and feather, both of which make the fight immeasurably easier. Also I think the silver shield blocks his breath attack.
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Jul 31, 2012 14:14
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pumpinglemma posted:I think all you really get for killing Bahamut is a Sacred Orb, right? You should be able to put him off until later if he's giving you trouble. You can get that item without killing that boss, with some clever platforming.
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uPen posted:Well after slamming headfirst into Bahamut for like an hour solid I think I need to take a break. Anyone got any tips on avoiding the Fireballs? The weird motion effects are throwing me for a loop. Assuming you have the feather, all you need to do to avoid the fireballs from the back ground is stay in the middle, and when he starts spraying them in your direction, just do as high a double jump as you can. I dodged pretty much all of them like this. Otherwise, the axe and the flares are good choices, just ride the bump up you get when he emerges and hit him a couple times, then stay under the breath attack.
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I'm stuck in the Chamber of Birth. I got the pochette key and all, but can't figure out how to reach the woman statue. In the original you just had to attack the right wall of the room before the statue, but this time there's this weird tilted pillar/totem blocking the way. When I walk on the above platform that keeps the tilted pillar from falling over, I can hear a creaking sound and see speckles of dust fall from the platform. Yet no weapon does anything, nor jumping or bringing the elephant enemies onto the platform (or making them jump there). I'm quite sure this puzzle is very simple and I'm just thinking too hard.
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Hempuli posted:I'm stuck in the Chamber of Birth. I got the pochette key and all, but can't figure out how to reach the woman statue. In the original you just had to attack the right wall of the room before the statue, but this time there's this weird tilted pillar/totem blocking the way. When I walk on the above platform that keeps the tilted pillar from falling over, I can hear a creaking sound and see speckles of dust fall from the platform. Yet no weapon does anything, nor jumping or bringing the elephant enemies onto the platform (or making them jump there). I'm quite sure this puzzle is very simple and I'm just thinking too hard. It is simple. Keep jumping and holding right
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Man, I finally finished this game and i feel really conflicted about it. The first half up to Bahamut is excellent and the puzzles are pretty well-done and self-contained, but as the game goes on you're increasingly required to do something outside a level before you can progress inside it without the game being clear about this at all. There was more than one time i wandered around for like an hour without any idea what to do. After a while, i just got fed up and looked up most of the solutions from the Chamber of Birth (what an awful area) onward, but it left a really bad taste in my mouth. The puzzles also get really arcane and nonsensical after a while, and seem to require a superhuman memory of every tablet you've ever read. Even in the back half, some parts, particularly the bosses, are fun, but other parts are just really badly designed.
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I'm confused. For sub-bosses this game sure loves to throw some weird ones at you. Any tips on beating Thunderbird in the Tower of Ruin? Nothing I'm doing seems to be hurting it. EDIT: Welp, sometimes I just need to think about what I'm doing first.  The game is tough, some of the puzzles are obsure/impossible, but this is still a drat good remake.
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Underwhelmed posted:Assuming you have the feather, all you need to do to avoid the fireballs from the back ground is stay in the middle, and when he starts spraying them in your direction, just do as high a double jump as you can. I dodged pretty much all of them like this. Otherwise, the axe and the flares are good choices, just ride the bump up you get when he emerges and hit him a couple times, then stay under the breath attack. Oh holy poo poo I was just trying to dodge them all, this will be a lot easier. Thanks.
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Antics posted:Man, I finally finished this game and i feel really conflicted about it. The first half up to Bahamut is excellent and the puzzles are pretty well-done and self-contained, but as the game goes on you're increasingly required to do something outside a level before you can progress inside it without the game being clear about this at all. There was more than one time i wandered around for like an hour without any idea what to do. After a while, i just got fed up and looked up most of the solutions from the Chamber of Birth (what an awful area) onward, but it left a really bad taste in my mouth. The puzzles also get really arcane and nonsensical after a while, and seem to require a superhuman memory of every tablet you've ever read. Even in the back half, some parts, particularly the bosses, are fun, but other parts are just really badly designed. You can record the tablets and stuff once you get a certain program in the Temple of the Sun. It's in the shop just below where you found the knife.
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Just finished the game, finally. I loved the game for the most part, but some of the puzzles were completely stupid, especially the Chamber of Birth and Gate of Illusion puzzles. I saw hints to them, but many never really clicked. Mother was a really easy boss, thankfully, but I think I'll hold off on doing Hell Temple for a while. Also, I really don't see the Mantra section as anything but filler, and annoying filler at that.
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Actually, I finally have a problem that I don't need to spoiler! What's the best way to earn lots of money? I have so many things that I'm able to buy, if I had the coins to do so. I'm looking at the upgraded laptop among a few other things, which means I need 400+ coins to buy it all.
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1) get a Green Fairy, best way is to go to the one in the Spring in the Sky and run in and out until you see the star pattern that means item fairy (I think that one's four stars, two moving clockwise and two counter) 2) Go to the extinction grail point, go one screen up then left at the upper exit 3) smash the four blocks immediately in front of you, get coins, move right a screen, left, repeat until fairy vanishes Congrats, you're now ~350 richer
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RaspberryCommie posted:You can record the tablets and stuff once you get a certain program in the Temple of the Sun. It's in the shop just below where you found the knife. That only lets you record twenty or so, though - I found myself using pen and paper instead. A proper in-game mapping and note-taking facility would make an amazing mod...
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